Kamala’s 2024 Presidential Run

[adrina]

Fucking wow... crazy. A completely fucking different demeanor from Bill for Tim Walz.

What a fucking dick.

 

[SevMax2]

The guy you're talking about let the worst attack on the Jewish people since world war 2.

Bibi reacted to the attack...he didn't defend shit

The guy should have been rotting in prison by now, but he was allowed back into power. Benny Gantz wasn't perfect, but I doubt that October 7 would have happened on his watch.

 

[butters]

Fucking wow... crazy. A completely fucking different demeanor from Bill for Tim Walz.

What a fucking dick.

not watching it right now as H is busy with a tv series and i honestly feel a little exhausted—slept badly last night and that messes with my head like a mother—what with politics and weather and wars, it's overwhelming atm.

 

[adrina]

not watching it right now as H is busy with a tv series and i honestly feel a little exhausted—slept badly last night and that messes with my head like a mother—what with politics and weather and wars, it's overwhelming atm.

The part with Tim Walz was shorter. I am looking for more video but I'm not sure I'm navigating the site properly.

Open face, open smile, humor in the eyes. When he asked Tim Walz about the "lying" about Tienanmen he was more like he had been with Kamala Harris. Then they shifted to the economics of Minnesota and it was... feather weight. Nothing about how it was afforded, nothing about how it was implemented. He basically challenged him with Trump's talking points, smiled and accepted Tim's answer without a challenge or even a furrowed brow. Then went on for a few moments longer more pleasantly and casually.

It was... unreal.

This. This bullshit right here is why men have lost my trust. I no longer believe the majority of men are fit for leadership, especially if they follow the competitive aggressive model. Any woman that follows the male competitive aggressive model is also not to be trusted.

I'll take the female cooperative communicative model thanks.

 

[adrina]

 

[Justplainjeff]

The guy you're talking about let the worst attack on the Jewish people since world war 2.

Bibi reacted to the attack...he didn't defend shit

Unfortunately, you're right. This time. But, the terrorist sympathizer s in chief still don't want to support him. I remember, way before you were born that a US President removed the firmly elected, but corrupt President of South Viet Nam. Look how that worked out.

 

[ll74]

Unfortunately, you're right. This time. But, the terrorist sympathizer s in chief still don't want to support him. I remember, way before you were born that a US President removed the firmly elected, but corrupt President of South Viet Nam. Look how that worked out.

Are you being serious?

The worst attack on his people.......Bibi deserves to be kicked out ASAP.

 

[Lazaran]

Unfortunately, you're right. This time. But, the terrorist sympathizer s in chief still don't want to support him. I remember, way before you were born that a US President removed the firmly elected, but corrupt President of South Viet Nam. Look how that worked out.

The Derek Chauvin riots and the J6 insurrection happened on DonOld’s watch.

DonOld not only couldn’t keep the country safe (See also: G.W. Bush and 9/11), but DonOld actually contributed to / was responsible for BOTH the Derek Chauvin riots and the J6 insurrection.

 

[deckardB26354]

Nope. They would not have. They never do. They sanitize and baby him, accepting what he says and do not grill him.

They give him the defacto man trust.

I understand that you want to play the “man bad” card here, but I think it’s more than that.

It’s (IMO) very possible that Trump has the benefit of having Putin’s hacker army at his disposal. He could have damaging dirt on anyone in power that could make him look bad. Again, my opinion, but I think there’s a real fear out there for people that could say something about him and choose not to—or have been ordered not to.

 

[Justplainjeff]

Are you being serious?

The worst attack on his people.......Bibi deserves to be kicked out ASAP.

I take it you're advocating for a new PM in Israel that might lead to Iran and their proxies wiping Israel off the map? Right now I don't see any suitable replacement waiting in the wings. Maybe with your unriveled insight into Israeli politics, you do.

 

[adrina]

I understand that you want to play the “man bad” card here, but I think it’s more than that.

It’s (IMO) very possible that Trump has the benefit of having Putin’s hacker army at his disposal. He could have damaging dirt on anyone in power that could make him look bad. Again, my opinion, but I think there’s a real fear out there for people that could say something about him and choose not to—of have been ordered not to.

I'm talking about how the press treats Donald, a man, as opposed to how they treat Kamala Harris, a woman.

The press has handled Donald with kid gloves for the better part of 8 years. This same press tore Hillary a new one day after day after day. And this same press now is holding Kamala to an entirely different set of standards than Trump.

This particular post is not about "man bad", it's about the deferential treatment the press gives men and how they put women on trial.

 

[SevMax2]

I prefer to treat public servants as individuals and rate them according to their personal merit. I'm leery of any kind of collective responsibility or collective judgments.

That being said, Trump has had remarkably positive press given how he has behaved. I have considerable reservations about Harris, but those are public policy differences (on specific policies) and issues regarding such things as her prosecutorial record. I actually don't have any real complaints that immediately come to mind about her Senate record. In any case, she's still far saner than him, far more likely to abide by the rule of law and the Constitution than him, far more sensible on most policies, and more mainstream on certain norms that need to be upheld. She doesn't have this "Mafiaesque" attitude toward government, where she would want public servants to be personally loyal to her. What James Comey described about his meetings with Trump, where he was pushed to give some kind of fealty to the man rather than to the Constitution, is very damning.

So, yeah, while he has gone under fire for various things, the fact remains that people have indeed "sanewashed" his publicity and the more that I have seen of the difference between the coverage of him and the reality of him, well, it's just reckless and irresponsible. As much as I have had issues with the Huffington Post, their old disclaimer about him was a mild, but appropriate form of censure. The false sense of normalcy about the guy is just....unacceptable. My original thoughts about him being senile turned out to be even truer than I first feared back then. I am convinced that my first impression was correct, my first instinct, whatever. I made the mistake of missing the forest for the trees with Harris, getting caught up in my detractions of her and my disenchantment with the Democratic Party, but make no mistake about this. Trump has done me the enormous favor of giving me reminders of his dementia and derangement, which gave me considerable clarity about the dangers of his return.

Furthermore, call January 6 what you want, but Trump holds immense culpability for it, and Kamala Harris hasn't done anything even remotely that bad in her entire life. The George Gage business was very bad, of course, but not on the same scale in the least. She did some things that bother me, but she's never tried to overturn an election result. It's not even in the same motherfucking league. To not treat his crimes as horrifically worse than any acts of hers, to make their critiques somehow equivalent, it would be a grave error. I am no fan of hers, but it's even fucking close. She's a career politician, so hardly perfect, but he's a convicted criminal and a stark raving lunatic.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I take it you're advocating for a new PM in Israel that might lead to Iran and their proxies wiping Israel off the map? Right now I don't see any suitable replacement waiting in the wings. Maybe with your unriveled insight into Israeli politics, you do.

Oh gosh, we HAVE to allow Netanyahu to remain in power because he's the ONLY one who keeps Israel safe from Iran?

Nah, I'm not buying it.

Netanyahu has a singular talent: exploiting the United States to do Israel's bidding. He manipulates and meddles in American politics continuously - the ONLY reason there is no cease fire in Gaza is because Israel knows they will have free reign in Gaza to complete their genocide if Trump is (G-d forbid) elected. Netanyahu has given up trying to convince American Jewish voters to vote for Trump, so he's doing his own "October surprise" attacking anything and everything Arab in the Middle East to inflame American voters of Arabic descent to vote against the Democratic party.

Netanyahu pitched a major fit earlier this year when the United States temporarily denied him his most treasured presents: American 2000 pound "bunker buster" bombs. Without these bombs, the ragtag IDF would have to do, you know, actual fighting and if there is one thing the Israeli populace will NOT abide, it's the shedding of Israeli blood (shedding the blood of innocent women and children? Meh!)

Trump will supply an unlimited number of bunker busters to Israel in exchange for a photo op and being called "The greatest US president Israel has ever known". I believe the word salad that is Harris' approach to Israel is dogwhistling "You want to fight Gaza, Israel? Fine, put YOUR troops lives on the line, no more bombs for you".

Netanyahu's coalition in Israel is very fragile, it's an uneasy coalition of primarily West Bank terrorists, ultraorthodox Jews and nominal "conservatives". It will collapse like a house of cards once a cease fire is reached. The powers behind the throne in Israel are the ultraconservative minister of defense and the asswipe who leads the West Bank terrorism contingent. Neither are suitable for prime time.

 

[SevMax2]

Oh gosh, we HAVE to allow Netanyahu to remain in power because he's the ONLY one who keeps Israel safe from Iran?

Nah, I'm not buying it.

Netanyahu has a singular talent: exploiting the United States to do Israel's bidding. He manipulates and meddles in American politics continuously - the ONLY reason there is no cease fire in Gaza is because Israel knows they will have free reign in Gaza to complete their genocide if Trump is (G-d forbid) elected. Netanyahu has given up trying to convince American Jewish voters to vote for Trump, so he's doing his own "October surprise" attacking anything and everything Arab in the Middle East to inflame American voters of Arabic descent to vote against the Democratic party.

Netanyahu pitched a major fit earlier this year when the United States temporarily denied him his most treasured presents: American 2000 pound "bunker buster" bombs. Without these bombs, the ragtag IDF would have to do, you know, actual fighting and if there is one thing the Israeli populace will NOT abide, it's the shedding of Israeli blood (shedding the blood of innocent women and children? Meh!)

Trump will supply an unlimited number of bunker busters to Israel in exchange for a photo op and being called "The greatest US president Israel has ever known". I believe the word salad that is Harris' approach to Israel is dogwhistling "You want to fight Gaza, Israel? Fine, put YOUR troops lives on the line, no more bombs for you".

Netanyahu's coalition in Israel is very fragile, it's an uneasy coalition of primarily West Bank terrorists, ultraorthodox Jews and nominal "conservatives". It will collapse like a house of cards once a cease fire is reached. The powers behind the throne in Israel are the ultraconservative minister of defense and the asswipe who leads the West Bank terrorism contingent. Neither are suitable for prime time.

I'm bothered less that the coalition for Netanyahu will fall if there's a cease-fire and more that Hamas might survive. It needs to be entirely rooted out as an organization, once and for all. We wouldn't have made a cease-fire with Hitler or Tojo, even if though we had to kill a lot more German and Japanese civilians than the Israelis have killed in Gaza. One should also note that Hamas have presented a lot of combatants in civvies as "civilian casualties." The UN even had to revise its figures of civilians deaths downward by roughly half. After all, the Gazan Health Ministry can't be trusted, since it literally is Hamas.

As for Netanyahu, he can rot in Hell, if such a place existed. He made October 7 possible in about sixty ways that immediately come to mind, including backing them to weaken the Palestinian Authority. Very shortsighted, if you ask me.

 

[ll74]

I take it you're advocating for a new PM in Israel that might lead to Iran and their proxies wiping Israel off the map?

Nope. I'm advocating for a new PM who didn't allow the second worst mass killing in the history of the Jewish people.

Right now I don't see any suitable replacement waiting in the wings. Maybe with your unriveled insight into Israeli politics, you do.

Political pressure would reveal plenty of candidates. I'm not here to advocate for his replacement

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Her past positions on EVs and fracking are not playing well in Michigan and Western PA. She’s trying to walk those positions back but many voters know she’s lying.

Kamala Harris Struggling to Break Through With Working Class, Democrats Fear

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich.—Democrats have privately grown worried about Kamala Harris’s standing among working-class voters in the crucial “blue wall” states—particularly in Michigan.

Donald Trump has assiduously courted union members and non-college-educated white voters with a message focused on high costs, manufacturing and the threat of China to the U.S. economy. Senior Democrats, including Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, want a sharper economic appeal from Harris and have conveyed those concerns to her campaign, according to people familiar with the conversations. They also want Harris to spend more time campaigning in the state.

An internal poll done by Democrat Tammy Baldwin’s Senate campaign last week showed Harris down by 3 percentage points in Wisconsin, while Baldwin was up by two points, according to a person familiar with the poll.

Edit: link added
https://www.wsj.com/politics/electi...038b8?st=RsTfd5&reflink=article_copyURL_share

 

[Chernosoth]

Her past positions on EVs and fracking are not playing well in Michigan and Western PA.

That's the one issue where I'd almost prefer a Dem. We just don't have any Dems who are willing to keep saying fracking has always been a very stupid failure. For a small amount of fuel and a dead loss of investments, the fracked water stays polluted. When the fossil fuels are gone, we will still need water.

 

[adrina]

Harris takes lead in NYT poll; is seen as more likely than Trump to represent change​

The poll, released Tuesday, shows Harris with a three-point lead over Trump, 49 percent to 46 percent, in a head-to-head matchup among likely voters.

Harris also maintains her 3-point edge over Trump in a multi-candidate race, 47 percent to 44 percent. In that scenario, Green Party candidate Jill Stein and Libertarian Party candidate Chase Oliver each get 1 percentage point, with no other candidate exceeding half a point, according to the poll.

The vice president also pulled ahead of her GOP opponent when respondents were asked which candidate “represents change” more: 46 percent said Harris, 44 percent said Trump, 2 percent said both, 4 percent said neither and 4 percent said they did not know or refused to answer.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...is-donald-trump-national-new-york-times-poll/

 

[Rightguide]

This woman is a clueless lunatic:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843448082232397989

 

[deckardB26354]

Kamala Harris Struggling to Break Through With Working Class, Democrats Fear

But the orange goon that shits in literal golden toilets is understood by the working class—gotcha.

 

[SevMax2]

Friendly reminder that Republicans consistently try to disenfranchise legitimate voters under the false assumption that they are illegitimate. This assumption often falls disproportionately on minorities, especially the African American and Hispanic communities. Now, why do they do that?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

OMG!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843677758364455276

 

[SevMax2]

Her past positions on EVs and fracking are not playing well in Michigan and Western PA. She’s trying to walk those positions back but many voters know she’s lying.

Kamala Harris Struggling to Break Through With Working Class, Democrats Fear

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich.—Democrats have privately grown worried about Kamala Harris’s standing among working-class voters in the crucial “blue wall” states—particularly in Michigan.

Donald Trump has assiduously courted union members and non-college-educated white voters with a message focused on high costs, manufacturing and the threat of China to the U.S. economy. Senior Democrats, including Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, want a sharper economic appeal from Harris and have conveyed those concerns to her campaign, according to people familiar with the conversations. They also want Harris to spend more time campaigning in the state.

An internal poll done by Democrat Tammy Baldwin’s Senate campaign last week showed Harris down by 3 percentage points in Wisconsin, while Baldwin was up by two points, according to a person familiar with the poll.

Edit: link added
https://www.wsj.com/politics/electi...038b8?st=RsTfd5&reflink=article_copyURL_share

You know that the working class isn’t just white folks, right? Also, whatever weaknesses Harris and the Democrats have are due to the corporate neoliberalism exemplified by the Clintons and the Democratic Leadership Council. They are slowly waking up out of the dream state and brain fog created by that kind of elitist thinking, which still makes them better than a party that consistently goes out of its way to hurt working people of all races and both sexes.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Friendly reminder that Republicans consistently try to disenfranchise legitimate voters under the false assumption that they are illegitimate. This assumption often falls disproportionately on minorities, especially the African American and Hispanic communities. Now, why do they do that?

How are they doing that? I seriously hope you're not suggesting minorities can't get ID like everyone else.

 

[Rightguide]

Many believe the election already sown up by Trump:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843633506565451816