Below the belt

[butters]

Israel is committed to not accepting a 2-state solution. Palestinians are accepting of it as an answer but Israelis reject it.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/why-israel-must-reject-the-two-state-solution/

Before anything, I must congratulate the wonderful Israeli ambassador to the UK, Tzipi Hotovely, who rationally and directly and honestly rejected the two-state solution as the root cause of radicalism that threatens the State of Israel.[1]

This is an important point to remember, the very cause of terrorism is the belief that the two-state solution is possible, and something that is a necessary pre-requisite for peace in the Middle East. As long as the political powers amongst Palestinians, as well as the Islamic people across the Arab world, think that the State of Palestine must happen, the terror attacks will continue since factions and fanatics amongst them think this will change the calculus of the State of Israel.

And this is precisely why right from the start the State of Israel must explain that the two-state solution is fundamentally contrary to the national security interests of the Jewish people in Israel and around the world. Furthermore, that the Palestinians cannot get a state right in the middle of Israel, this is impossible, and cannot happen, and will not happen.

this would appear to be indicative of many Israelis, with Israel having the absolute right to exist (it does!) but without accepting the same goes for Palestinians.

Israel has huge support from the US in the form of money, arms, diplomacy... often for very good reasons since without it the destabilisation of the Middle East would be extremely detrimental to the US and the world stage. Accepting all that help, when those giving it are determined a 2-state solution is the ONLY viable option for peace, seems out of balance.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Nice blasts

Pardon my insolence, but I’ve had a nap and been in touch with my collective unconscious.
I keep vibing on French matrons at the foot of a guillotine serenely knitting as heads accrue in a basket.

Or jubilant dancers snaring severed heads as they tumble down Mayan temple steps Apocalypto style
as the feathered elite beseech Kukulkan to stop the crops from rotting in the fields.

No excess of humanity here.
Vengeance is Mine, saith…?

 

[Lazaran]

Did you mean some other nation? Yemen can't hit Israel. If you mean Israeli ships going past Yemen, then all they need to do is take the Red Sea route. That would move cargo through Saudi Arabia, which is now friendly enough with Israel.

Missiles and drones can easily reach Israel from Yemen.



Sternosot is a fucking imbecile.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Did you mean some other nation? Yemen can't hit Israel. If you mean Israeli ships going past Yemen, then all they need to do is take the Red Sea route. That would move cargo through Saudi Arabia, which is now friendly enough with Israel.

The Houthis in Yemen have attacked Israel directly.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024...o-have-targeted-israels-tel-aviv-and-ashkelon

 

[ChloeTzang]

Vengeance is Mine, saith…?

...the Lord, but that vengeance shall be executed through the hands of the Servants of the Lord.

Or in this case, their bombs. LOL.

Personally, I find it rather satisfying, but I'd probably be one of those people knitting in front of the guillotine as the heads of the Rothschilds and Sorii and the CEO's of Vanguard and whatever rolled down into the barrels.

 

[Rebel5soul]

...the Lord, but that vengeance shall be executed through the hands of the Servants of the Lord.

Or in this case, their bombs. LOL.

Personally, I find it rather satisfying, but I'd probably be one of those people knitting in front of the guillotine as the heads of the Rothschilds and Sorii and the CEO's of Vanguard and whatever rolled down into the barrels.

Tada!

Yet another Pudpacker makes a lame attempt to quote scripture, "If you're shot in the ass, turn the other cheek."

I do have to give you kudos for putting up with this inane bullshit.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Israeli Sources have confirmed that besides Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah, several other Senior Hezbollah Leaders as well as a Group of Advisors from the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRCG) were inside the Command Bunker when it was Targeted. With all Occupants expected to have been Killed by the Strike. Hashem Safieddine, the successor of Hassan Nasrallah, was also eliminated.

 

[lessOHmo]

Israeli Sources have confirmed that besides Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah, several other Senior Hezbollah Leaders as well as a Group of Advisors from the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRCG) were inside the Command Bunker when it was Targeted. With all Occupants expected to have been Killed by the Strike. Hashem Safieddine, the successor of Hassan Nasrallah, was also eliminated.

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Tee Hee

 

[Sappho_CGN]

Israel is committed to not accepting a 2-state solution. Palestinians are accepting of it as an answer but Israelis reject it.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/why-israel-must-reject-the-two-state-solution/







this would appear to be indicative of many Israelis, with Israel having the absolute right to exist (it does!) but without accepting the same goes for Palestinians.

Israel has huge support from the US in the form of money, arms, diplomacy... often for very good reasons since without it the destabilisation of the Middle East would be extremely detrimental to the US and the world stage. Accepting all that help, when those giving it are determined a 2-state solution is the ONLY viable option for peace, seems out of balance.

This is not true.

HAMAS and Hisbollah opt for destroying Israel and killing all Jews in the Near East. This is meaning of "From the river to the sea".

 

[Rebel5soul]

Israeli Sources have confirmed that besides Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah, several other Senior Hezbollah Leaders as well as a Group of Advisors from the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRCG) were inside the Command Bunker when it was Targeted. With all Occupants expected to have been Killed by the Strike. Hashem Safieddine, the successor of Hassan Nasrallah, was also eliminated.

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"Hmmm. Can't use cell phones, the pagers and radios blow up. I have an idea!!!! Let's all get together in an underground bunker. We'll be safe there."

You'd think the Israeli's had those fellows chipped like the family pet.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Sad news for Ivy League Graduates and other Islamofascist terrorist supporters...

Saudi Arabia bans Imams from praying for Palestine or even mentioning it in their sermons in Saudi mosques. Saudi prince Mohammed bin Salman said he personally DOESN'T CARE about the Palestinian issue. Saudi says THERE IS NO PLACE for 'political slogans' in Hajj in Makkah and Madinah.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Sad news for Ivy League Graduates and other Islamofascist terrorist supporters...

Saudi Arabia bans Imams from praying for Palestine or even mentioning it in their sermons in Saudi mosques. Saudi prince Mohammed bin Salman said he personally DOESN'T CARE about the Palestinian issue. Saudi says THERE IS NO PLACE for 'political slogans' in Hajj in Makkah and Madinah.


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Trump is an Ivy League grad. I guess he’ll be sad.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Sad news for Ivy League Graduates and other Islamofascist terrorist supporters...

Saudi Arabia bans Imams from praying for Palestine or even mentioning it in their sermons in Saudi mosques. Saudi prince Mohammed bin Salman said he personally DOESN'T CARE about the Palestinian issue. Saudi says THERE IS NO PLACE for 'political slogans' in Hajj in Makkah and Madinah.


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The Saudi's will eventually join with the Israeli's aligning against Iran. It would have happened already if not for Biden's totally fucked up foreign policy.

And I hope that everyone is paying attention to the master class in "Vermin Extermination" that the Israeli's are providing.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I suspect the hardliners have support because Israel is surrounded by terrorist organizations who want to destroy it.

Attacks against Israel--like the Intifada, October 7th, and the thousands of missiles fired from Lebanon and Yemen--scare people into voting for someone who promises to keep them safe. Once Israel is no longer under daily attack, we may see more liberal voices in Israeli politics.

The "hardliners" have support because they were promised military security for their 'Lebensraum' land grab in the West Bank.

Why buy a home and have a mortgage when you can strongarm residents out of their own West Bank homes for free whilst the United States is distracted by the Trump freakshow?

Israel is probably the only country on Earth that benefits more than Russia when there is chaos in the Unite States.

 

[ChloeTzang]

The "hardliners" have support because they were promised military security for their 'Lebensraum' land grab in the West Bank.

Why buy a home and have a mortgage when you can strongarm residents out of their own West Bank homes for free whilst the United States is distracted by the Trump freakshow?

Israel is probably the only country on Earth that benefits more than Russia when there is chaos in the Unite States.

Every now and then you get it right.

Of course, this is what Israel should have done 50 years ago, after the 1968 war when they first liberated the West Bank. Tossed the colonial settlers out on their asses and made the West Bank part of Israel too. That and thrown everyone out of Gaza and into the Sinai. They'll get there and you're right, chaos in the US benefits Israel but that's all to the good. They get more done without those restraints.

 

[ChloeTzang]

The pager message every Islamic terrorist dreads

 

[ChloeTzang]

LOL. I rather like this.....

 

[ChloeTzang]

And in case you thought it was going to stop...no, Hezbollah is going to be rather worse than decimated, and as RobDownSouth pointed out, with Biden a lame duck gone AWOL from the White House, and Harris incommunicado to everyone, well, he's got free rein. This is good.

It also illustrates that a weak US President is indeed a threat to the entire world. Time to reelect Trump and bring all this nonsense to an abrupt stop. As we saw with Zelensky's meeting with Trump, everyone is beginning to accept who the next President will be and he's already calling the shots without saying a word.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Isn't this a sight to see...lots of opportunities to move up fast in Hezbollah.

 

[jhenry922]

Never let it be said that Israel would fail to commit a war crime unless it would benefit them. They've been doing shit like this since the '90s. A bunch of us in Canada organized Aid to send old computers there and they got held up in Israeli customs and then released but the locks have been broken all the parts of value stolen and the rest urinated on. We did an investigation and traced a lot of stuff that ended up being resold on eBay by people in Israel with ties to the government or the idf. We reported this stuff to newspapers and the government of Canada but got nowhere the mighty hand of Izzy Asper strikes again

 

[butters]

hezbollah leader's death confirmed

do i feel any pity for him? no

the number 2 to him may take over leadership, but according to reports it's more likely to be the ex-leader's cousin, a family member with deep ties to Iranian leadership.

 

[butters]

does it mean a full-scale war is imminent in the Middle East? time will tell but it hardly looks good.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

does it mean a full-scale war is imminent in the Middle East? time will tell but it hardly looks good.

Things are actually looking really good for peace in the Middle East right now. Israel just destroyed a big chunk of the terror network that Iran built up over the last 40 years.

 

[butters]

Things are actually looking really good for peace in the Middle East right now. Israel just destroyed a big chunk of the terror network that Iran built up over the last 40 years.

i hope so. a full-blown war serves no-one well

And ever since the July 31 assassination of the Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, many in the Middle East have been bracing for an Iranian attack on Israel that could plunge the region into a broad war. But the response hasn’t come. Ultimately, Tehran decided against risking a major escalation with Israel. Khamenei has maintained his policy of “strategic patience,” slowly building militias surrounding Israel on all sides without getting into a direct confrontation.

Whether Nasrallah’s death will alter Khamenei’s cautious approach seems questionable. A statement yesterday from the Iranian embassy in Beirut claimed that the “rules of the game” had now changed, and threatened Israel with “appropriate punishment and discipline.” Predictably, the hard-liner mouthpiece Kayhan, whose history includes praise for Adolf Hitler and insistent Holocaust denial, declared today, “Israel has dug its own graves; now go ahead and bury its corpse.”

I suppose we need to see if Qassem becomes the leader or if Nasrallah's cousin will, and if the cousin is more for peace than Qassem (despite such strong ties to Iran leadership)

Such calls for measured action by the global community sound quite different from the stance taken by Hezbollah’s deputy leader, Naim Qassem, who last week warned that the group’s war with Israel had entered “a new phase of limitless settling of accounts.” Tehran isn’t Hezbollah. Although Pezeshkian had claimed on CNN that Hezbollah was unable to defend itself “on its own,” seemingly promising Iran’s entry into the conflict, his foreign minister essentially corrected that statement. Addressing reporters on Wednesday morning, Araghchi promised that Hezbollah “makes its own decisions and is fully capable of defending itself, Lebanon, and the people of Lebanon on its own.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...p&cvid=b04bbe389cea4fff9824a1bd1c9a4fc2&ei=11

 

[butters]

best hope is that this inflexion point can see some room for peace deals

the reality is that i'm not at all sure this will happen