Our country's fetishizing of guns is revolting

[Bray123]

So which is it? You're for disarming governments or not? If you are, what's your suggestion for doing so?

Some countries have a disarmed police, such as the UK (a few officers on duty at any one time who are armed but the chance of you seeing one outside of an airport or Downing Street is slim). The murder rate is miniscule there compared to the US, whether or not you agree.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Some countries have a disarmed police, such as the UK (a few officers on duty at any one time who are armed but the chance of you seeing one outside of an airport or Downing Street is slim). The murder rate is miniscule there compared to the US, whether or not you agree.

That's great. Do we have an example of a country that has completely disarmed the government?

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Oh no! Publicly shamed. How awful. I'll bet it makes him weep every time he cashes his pension check.

Let's hope that his crocodile tears don't smear the ink.


Oh wait: ACH . . . .


Damn!!!

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Objections to guns are like objections to the weather.

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And after they have forced the American firearms industry out of business, the US military will then be forced to arm itself with CommBloc hardware. Talk about your Unintended Consequences.

 

[Bray123]

That's great. Do we have an example of a country that has completely disarmed the government?

Perhaps you should consider it. Then when the government has stopped killing people there might be some money available for healthcare.

 

[ll74]

Until you demand governments be disarmed and stop killing people on massive scales, including with guns, your objections to guns are pure dishonesty.

I am not objecting to guns. I'm also not trying to say cars and guns are the same thing and instead am pointing out that guns are created to kill and cars are created to transport.

 

[CherryCupcake]

The "I have my guns to protect myself from the government' lie is just amazing. It also proves the people making it have zero idea what an actual evil government is like. In Argentina, they wanted you to know they could come for you at any time. Iraqis had lots of guns under Saddam Hussein but when you know. your family is next, and they are, they don't come for you.

People by their guns for the typical male reason, to feel potent. Because holding tha gun you can feel powerful and supreme. It is a fetish, nothing more. Or maybe you're looking forward to shooting all the woke folk like me. But only a low-grade moron would believe that gun ownership is for protection.

Let us also acknowledge that the school shootings, the nightclub massacres, the gunning down of dozens at a concert are an inevitable by-product of this fetish. Dead citizens are the inevitable price for making military-grade weapons available to pretty much anyone who asks. So the next time you hear of some going to a grocery and gunning down people for a true a true live-action video game gun nuts should go look in the mirror and say "I did that!" Because you did.

 

[HisArpy]

The "I have my guns to protect myself from the government' lie is just amazing. It also proves the people making it have zero idea what an actual evil government is like. In Argentina, they wanted you to know they could come for you at any time. Iraqis had lots of guns under Saddam Hussein but when you know. your family is next, and they are, they don't come for you.

People by their guns for the typical male reason, to feel potent. Because holding tha gun you can feel powerful and supreme. It is a fetish, nothing more. Or maybe you're looking forward to shooting all the woke folk like me. But only a low-grade moron would believe that gun ownership is for protection.

Let us also acknowledge that the school shootings, the nightclub massacres, the gunning down of dozens at a concert are an inevitable by-product of this fetish. Dead citizens are the inevitable price for making military-grade weapons available to pretty much anyone who asks. So the next time you hear of some going to a grocery and gunning down people for a true a true live-action video game gun nuts should go look in the mirror and say "I did that!" Because you did.

What you know about how people feel about owning guns, can be written on the sharp end of a pin.

A gun doesn't make me "feel powerful and supreme." Neither does a fetish. Neither thing is related to "power" or "supremacy" at all. That anyone would think so puts them somewhere in the same realm as a rapist.

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

And after they have forced the American firearms industry out of business, the US military will then be forced to arm itself with CommBloc hardware. Talk about your Unintended Consequences.

The only good thing about ComBloc is that it's still ubiquitous, from what I hear out of Kurdistan. Freedom forces still prize a dump of enemy ammo because everyone has AKs.

In the so-called Contra War, which saw no real battles, both Sandos and contras had AKs from Cuba and needed the same ammo. They sold their guns and ammo to each other. Because both were given them free.

On my CV Croatia was the exception. They craved real independence. UN was excluded, EU ignored, we were there to observe and report, like security guards without the power of arrest.

Croatia raised their own money and bought their own weapons. They lost no territory.

LIbbypoos in their typical illiterate manner say 2A only applies to a well regulated militia. They use the words without understanding that a well-regulated militia needs military hardware. I don't live in Switzerland or work for UN any more.

I do believe our military will handle these issues.

Wow! I mentioned ammo! Guess I'm an ammosexual! Cool. I love ammosexual porn!

I know every inch of that land. 30 years' proud service. No bennies. No medals. But thanks!

Lovely boys.

Guns are good because guns mean freedom.

But this is better. What American wouldn't want to have been there? We're here because they were there.

Kudos to Ronnie Maxwell, my colleague in another life.

I think the original Wat Tyler would be proud of you for bearing his name.

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[TastySuckToy]

Perhaps you should consider it. Then when the government has stopped killing people there might be some money available for healthcare.

I've repeatedly said totally disarm governments. My next question is how? But I'm not getting an answer.

 

[AlexBailey]

Yes. I am very much too old for emojis, video games, flame wars, gratuitous insults, and the rest of the things you 4chan folks so love.

Your "sarcasm" is of about as much interest to me as seeing you nude, i.e. no interest. I reply to you because you insulted me. Otherwise I'd be on Pink Bimbo Academy.

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You’re the big tits queen of gratuitous insults. It seems to be your only real currency here. Don’t be so modest by trying to give me that credit.

 

[ChloeTzang]

If that means that people won’t die needlessly…sure.

So what about the millions that will die because they DON'T have guns. In the Rwandan genocide, more people with killed with machetes than with spears.

Now for myself, I train at Hapkido (and Taekwondo) religiously, and I study sword and knife fighting, I have a couple of swords and a very good Korean fighting knife, but unlike all the samurai and Crusader movies, a sword is very little use against a mob, or indeed, when you are 5' 3" and 120 lbs, very little use against a 6' male with double the body mass. So how do you propose I defend myself against a male? Or should I just give up and die?

(1) You're a fucking idiot and (2) you do not understand the human species - we will kill. We are violent. It is part of our genetic makeup. Without guns, we will use whatever weapons we can come up with. Bows and arrows. Swords. Spears. Knives. Broken bottles. Pencils. Sharpened credit cards. Vacuum cleaner pipes. And yes, I have trained with all of those. You can kill someone with a sharp pencil, John Wick didn't make that one up.

What you are advocating by taking guns away is a return to brute force (which WILL happen, because we do), and you are putting women and the small and weak at the mercy of the strong and the violent. Not only are you sexist, you are advocating a society where the weak are defenceless. And we know where that goes.

Of you don't like guns, you are perfectly entitled not to own or use one. That's your right. YOUR right does NOT include telling me I CANNOT have a gun. Or guns. Live with it.

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

If that means that people won’t die needlessly…sure.

People in hell call for ice water.

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[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

Some countries have a disarmed police, such as the UK (a few officers on duty at any one time who are armed but the chance of you seeing one outside of an airport or Downing Street is slim). The murder rate is miniscule there compared to the US, whether or not you agree.

Cite essential differences between U.S. and Canada.

The murder rate is minuscule there.

Explain why.

You can't.

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[Bray123]

Cite essential differences between U.S. and Canada.

The murder rate is minuscule there.

Explain why.

You can't.

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No MAGATs.

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

So what about the millions that will die because they DON'T have guns. In the Rwandan genocide, more people with killed with machetes than with spears.

Now for myself, I train at Hapkido (and Taekwondo) religiously, and I study sword and knife fighting, I have a couple of swords and a very good Korean fighting knife, but unlike all the samurai and Crusader movies, a sword is very little use against a mob, or indeed, when you are 5' 3" and 120 lbs, very little use against a 6' male with double the body mass. So how do you propose I defend myself against a male? Or should I just give up and die?

(1) You're a fucking idiot and (2) you do not understand the human species - we will kill. We are violent. It is part of our genetic makeup. Without guns, we will use whatever weapons we can come up with. Bows and arrows. Swords. Spears. Knives. Broken bottles. Pencils. Sharpened credit cards. Vacuum cleaner pipes. And yes, I have trained with all of those. You can kill someone with a sharp pencil, John Wick didn't make that one up.

What you are advocating by taking guns away is a return to brute force (which WILL happen, because we do), and you are putting women and the small and weak at the mercy of the strong and the violent. Not only are you sexist, you are advocating a society where the weak are defenceless. And we know where that goes.

Of you don't like guns, you are perfectly entitled not to own or use one. That's your right. YOUR right does NOT include telling me I CANNOT have a gun. Or guns. Live with it.

I didn't say you shouldn't have a gun. You should. Sooner or later you may use it for human betterment. Like, blowing your own head off.

I say you shouldn't have access to a lap top. Guns don't kill people; bullshit kills people. Since it leads to using guns.

I apologize if that offends the Antarctic penguins running this site.

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[TastySuckToy]

Of you don't like guns, you are perfectly entitled not to own or use one. That's your right. YOUR right does NOT include telling me I CANNOT have a gun. Or guns. Live with it.

Leftists love the idea of guns in the hands of those enforcing their ideology. Just not in the hands of those who don't subscribe to it and have the capability to defend themselves.

 

[LMWM321]

The "I have my guns to protect myself from the government' lie is just amazing.

Exactly.

What do these idiots think will happen when the Gov't "attacks" their homestead / compound? They just shove the barrel of an AR in a National Guardsman face through a cracked door and say, "beat it!" and the'll just retreat? ..Like that'll be the end of it? No... ..If you've done something to warrant a search warrant, the warrant WILL BE served and executed, your AR's and stockpiles of ammo notwithstanding.

So, in conclusion:

# of unprovoked US Gov't attacks on the public successfully fended off by citizens brandishing AR style weapons = ZERO
# of kids killed, injured or traumatized daily in the US by the threat of AR gun violence = MILLIONS

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

No MAGATs.

Idiot. There is plenty MAGATUDE in the true north strong and free. And plenty guns n hunting.

Read the NATIONAL POST. If you got far enough with ESL to be able to read.

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[AlexBailey]

Hey, could one of you folks who knows all about the US history of firearms discuss the use and importance of the Magazine at Colonial Williamsburg after the revolution?

Before the revolution it was held by British soldiers who held the weapons for when they were needed by the public. It was taken by patriots during the revolution and afterward it was controlled by the (well regulated) state militia.

Got any real details on how that worked?

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

Leftists love the idea of guns in the hands of those enforcing their ideology. Just not in the hands of those who don't subscribe to it and have the capability to defend themselves.

Leftists who love the idea of guns in the hands of those who never even heard of their ideology: Chomsky first.

I don't share the ideology of the Irving Azoff Brigade but I want them armed.

Green ideas now have full color and don't sleep. Earth First! Furiously!

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[Wat_Tyler]

The only good thing about ComBloc is that it's still ubiquitous, from what I hear out of Kurdistan. Freedom forces still prize a dump of enemy ammo because everyone has AKs.

In the so-called Contra War, which saw no real battles, both Sandos and contras had AKs from Cuba and needed the same ammo. They sold their guns and ammo to each other. Because both were given them free.

On my CV Croatia was the exception. They craved real independence. UN was excluded, EU ignored, we were there to observe and report, like security guards without the power of arrest.

Croatia raised their own money and bought their own weapons. They lost no territory.

LIbbypoos in their typical illiterate manner say 2A only applies to a well regulated militia. They use the words without understanding that a well-regulated militia needs military hardware. I don't live in Switzerland or work for UN any more.

I do believe our military will handle these issues.

Wow! I mentioned ammo! Guess I'm an ammosexual! Cool. I love ammosexual porn!

I know every inch of that land. 30 years' proud service. No bennies. No medals. But thanks!

Lovely boys.

Guns are good because guns mean freedom.

But this is better. What American wouldn't want to have been there? We're here because they were there.

Kudos to Ronnie Maxwell, my colleague in another life.

I think the original Wat Tyler would be proud of you for bearing his name.

( O )( O )

You, my Dear, are exactly right. AK stuff is everywhere. I read somewhere that all an aspiring revolutionary group had to do was to swear allegiance to Moskva and truckloads of AKs and train-car loads of ammo for them would arrive. They are everywhere, they are simple, they are easy enough to use, they are rugged, durable and effective. With some training, hits can be had at 600 yards - that's not one of my skills (yet) but I know who to ask. Third world countries and crime cartels the world over have plenty.


Personally, I (kind of) prefer the US AR series of rifles. I also prefer the Belgian FAL rifles, too. But mo one can argue successfully that the AK cannot "get 'er done." It would just be embarrassing for the US to have to grovel to get licensed to build their military rifle because the blind in DC broke the US firearms industry.


I hope that Daddy Walter is pleased. I respect his revolutionary spirit.

 

[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

Exactly.

What do these idiots think will happen when the Gov't "attacks" their homestead / compound? They just shove the barrel of an AR in a National Guardsman face through a cracked door and say, "beat it!" and the'll just retreat? ..Like that'll be the end of it? No... ..If you've done something to warrant a search warrant, the warrant WILL BE served and executed, your AR's and stockpiles of ammo notwithstanding.

So, in conclusion:

# of unprovoked US Gov't attacks on the public successfully fended off by citizens brandishing AR style weapons = ZERO
# of kids killed, injured or traumatized daily in the US by the threat of AR gun violence = MILLIONS

Try AA.

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[Bigtitsbitch1000x]

You, my Dear, are exactly right. AK stuff is everywhere. I read somewhere that all an aspiring revolutionary group had to do was to swear allegiance to Moskva and truckloads of AKs and train-car loads of ammo for them would arrive. They are everywhere, they are simple, they are easy enough to use, they are rugged, durable and effective. With some training, hits can be had at 600 yards - that's not one of my skills (yet) but I know who to ask. Third world countries and crime cartels the world over have plenty.


Personally, I (kind of) prefer the US AR series of rifles. I also prefer the Belgian FAL rifles, too. But mo one can argue successfully that the AK cannot

"get 'er done." It would just be embarrassing for the US to have to grovel to get licensed to build their military rifle because the blind in DC broke the US firearms industry.


I hope that Daddy Walter is pleased. I respect his revolutionary spirit.

Ditto. Ammo.

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[TastySuckToy]

Exactly.

What do these idiots think will happen when the Gov't "attacks" their homestead / compound? They just shove the barrel of an AR in a National Guardsman face through a cracked door and say, "beat it!" and the'll just retreat? ..Like that'll be the end of it? No... ..If you've done something to warrant a search warrant, the warrant WILL BE served and executed, your AR's and stockpiles of ammo notwithstanding.

So, in conclusion:

# of unprovoked US Gov't attacks on the public successfully fended off by citizens brandishing AR style weapons = ZERO
# of kids killed, injured or traumatized daily in the US by the threat of AR gun violence = MILLIONS

So then when Russia invaded Ukraine and guns got handed out en masse to people staying to fight, that was pretty stupid, right?