Idaho's new controversial library bill causing backlash, means some libraries have to close altogether

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Particularly, the smaller libraries... they're being forced to either close or ban children altogether from entering the premises. This is disgusting... removing the ability for children to access public libraries, a world, a wealth of knowledge for free. Words cannot express how mad this makes me.

Idaho libraries now require under-30s to show ID, sparking an online backlash.
The Donnelly Public Library, due to its small size, has gone completely adults-only.

They've even implemented rules where kids can’t use the bathroom without a parental escort, showing how deeply these new laws affect everyday life.
It's the inability of (especially) smaller libraries to make sure the books deemed 'obscene' are isolated (through space/staffing) in the face of massive fines for non-compliance that is seeing children being banned from libraries, ID to establish age if under 20 (30 in some cases) and the complete closure of libraries.

The books in question don't even have to be cited to authorities by someone living in the state!

I don't know about others here, but would imagine that a lot of you who are writers of any kind spent a fair amount of time in free libraries as a child. The one I spent many an hour in had sections labeled 'children/adult' with further ones for general consumption of teens and young adults. I couldn't check out books for the older sections as a kid, but as a teenager had access to most adult books that I took full advantage of.

I honestly have to say I learned far more from the breadth and wealth of books I was able to read at a fairly young age than my own general education had time to teach me, and was also very lucky to have access to material such as LOTR and all the classic British literature (even some French), and American offerings, too. It broadened my knowledge, my understanding of topics and people, my interest in multiple subjects, and it encouraged my thirst for knowledge. ALL AT NO COST to a kid from a poor family. The library kept me safe, it was a world of wonder to me I could acces first with other family but then, from about the age of 9, on my own: not just reading books while I was there, in the peaceful environment I didn't have at home (very noisy, very busy home with 7 kids) but the enormous globes... maps taller than me that I could spin and experience all the obscure names, the shapes, mountains and oceans and continents. There were two, one of the older world with the older names, and one depicting newer names and borders for countries across the world. I would read books on the mile walk home, and devour books late into the night as well as during the day.

It is WRONG to deny such knowledge from children. Simple as that.
 
You are right. But, unfortunately, I see it as a “starving children in Somalia” type thing… there’s not really anything I can do or even feel obligated to do. Those parents have both their feet and the ballot, and they apparently choose to use neither. My only conclusion is that this is what they want for their kids, and if a parent wants to keep their children as ignorant breeding stock for mega corporations… well, that’s on them.
 
You are right. But, unfortunately, I see it as a “starving children in Somalia” type thing… there’s not really anything I can do or even feel obligated to do. Those parents have both their feet and the ballot, and they apparently choose to use neither. My only conclusion is that this is what they want for their kids, and if a parent wants to keep their children as ignorant breeding stock for mega corporations… well, that’s on them.

It's sad that their fear of Democrats is more important to them than their children.
 
All the extinct video stores had an adult's only section. It's not rocket science. More likely there isn't enough money to choose between plowing snow or free places for the homeless to surf porn. :)
 
Just complete code for another form of tax on the poor and less fortunate.

Libraries are also a wealth of knowledge but they will all strike down these basement bloggers that wrong guide swears are sources so it’s an attempt to silence fact as well.

Cloud it in whatever words you want… conservatives are afraid of facts…and people with access to those facts.
 
Just complete code for another form of tax on the poor and less fortunate.

Libraries are also a wealth of knowledge but they will all strike down these basement bloggers that wrong guide swears are sources so it’s an attempt to silence fact as well.

Cloud it in whatever words you want… conservatives are afraid of facts…and people with access to those facts.
How is it a tax? Do you actually go to a library for your facts or do you just Google it? :)
 
House Bill 710 explicitly states that a book that an adult deems inappropriate, has to be relocated to the adults-only section in the library.

sensible

how can anyone argue with this?

they have it for movies, amusement rides, eateries and so many other place

POUTAGE
 
House Bill 710 explicitly states that a book that an adult deems inappropriate, has to be relocated to the adults-only section in the library.

sensible

how can anyone argue with this?

they have it for movies, amusement rides, eateries and so many other place

POUTAGE
I deem the Bible inappropriate.

Now they must move it to the adults only section.

I agree....how can anyone argue with that?
 
I deem the Bible inappropriate.

Now they must move it to the adults only section.

I agree....how can anyone argue with that?
If you have to go to the library to read the bible you really must be poor. :)
 
How is it a tax? Do you actually go to a library for your facts or do you just Google it? :)
Alright, one time for the slow…

Who is the most likely to NOT have an ID? Who is the most likely who will then need to spend additional money for materials that were there for everyone initially?

Now is this additional money going to the government as a traditional tax? No. It’s still coming out of the pockets of those who can ill afford to spend it.

But as most sane parents will tell you, if it benefits your kids and they need it, you will make it happen. Of course for the slow, like yourself of course, you still wouldn’t understand that.

I go to a library often. It is an invaluable source of information and entertainment for my family.

But it’s okay for MAGAts in a conservatives clothing to: (1) withhold vital information from growing minds, (2) cut good jobs for hard working Americans, and (3) contribute to the downward spiral of education and dwindling knowledge base thanks to a misinformation campaign targeted at stupid people who believe EVERYTHING told to them.

I know you have stock in Brawndo already, but the rest of the sane know electrolytes will kill plants… it’s not what plants crave!

 
A few months back one of the sloped forehead MAGAts insisted that "All Libraries Were "school libraries", so books should be banned county wide".

Rationale: Schools had age-appropriate restriction sections but school children could bypass them by simply going to the county library, ergo, "all libraries are school libraries".

Book banning, it's not just for Nazis anymore!
 
A few months back one of the sloped forehead MAGAts insisted that "All Libraries Were "school libraries", so books should be banned county wide".

Rationale: Schools had age-appropriate restriction sections but school children could bypass them by simply going to the county library, ergo, "all libraries are school libraries".

Book banning, it's not just for Nazis anymore!
Nope, it’s still the Nazis. Just redhats instead of armbands.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...at-swastika-white-supremacy-art-a8931076.html
 
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Alright, one time for the slow…

Who is the most likely to NOT have an ID? Who is the most likely who will then need to spend additional money for materials that were there for everyone initially?

Now is this additional money going to the government as a traditional tax? No. It’s still coming out of the pockets of those who can ill afford to spend it.

But as most sane parents will tell you, if it benefits your kids and they need it, you will make it happen. Of course for the slow, like yourself of course, you still wouldn’t understand that.

I go to a library often. It is an invaluable source of information and entertainment for my family.

But it’s okay for MAGAts in a conservatives clothing to: (1) withhold vital information from growing minds, (2) cut good jobs for hard working Americans, and (3) contribute to the downward spiral of education and dwindling knowledge base thanks to a misinformation campaign targeted at stupid people who believe EVERYTHING told to them.

I know you have stock in Brawndo already, but the rest of the sane know electrolytes will kill plants… it’s not what plants crave!

So....I'll boil it down:
1) Not a tax; you are correct.
2) You are too poor to buy books and the intetnet. :)
 
So....I'll boil it down:
1) Not a tax; you are correct.
2) You are too poor to buy books and the intetnet. :)
Comprehension skills are difficult with you. Schools usually have reading recovery programs for someone like you. You could call and ask if you can attend class. Maybe a virtual option?

Maybe a karaoke version where the words are gone through one at a time so you can get it?

Doubt it will help. Good luck to you,
 
Comprehension skills are difficult with you. Schools usually have reading recovery programs for someone like you. You could call and ask if you can attend class. Maybe a virtual option?

Maybe a karaoke version where the words are gone through one at a time so you can get it?

Doubt it will help. Good luck to you,
Toodles. :)
 
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