Why Biden Will Win

[ShandyLeer]

Nope. That's your imagination, pulled straight out of your ass.

The media harping on it for almost four weeks straight did its job - the trump supporter media got rid of Biden. Now the dog has caught the car. What will they - and you - do?

You specifically blamed the big donor class of white men for unseating him Adrina, it’s a few posts ago ffs.

The media latched on to the meltdown that occurred within minutes of JB taking the stage for the debate. That meltdown was real not invented and media reporting that reality are just doing their job.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Did the DNC realize that when they waged war against Bernie Sanders? They preferred President Trump to President Sanders.

Bernie Sanders was too unpopular to win the Democratic primary against Hillary Clinton, let alone the general election against Donald Trump.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Hillary won the popular vote in 2016.

Clinton won by over 4 million votes in California alone in 2016, and by just under 3 million votes nationwide. Piling up votes for the Democratic nominee in California, or in New York City, or Washington DC, or Boston, or Baltimore, is not going to change the dynamics in 2024. The Democrats going for Whitmer would make more electoral sense, with the blue wall factor, but is obvious anathema to DNC corporate elites.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Bernie Sanders was too unpopular to win the Democratic primary against Hillary Clinton, let alone the general election against Donald Trump.

Sanders would have beaten Trump. He would have changed the Democratic coalition by eating into the Republican white base in a big way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last time that the Democratic presidential nominee won the white vote was in 1964. Clinton is rooted in the big cities and corporate/military sector, not in the industrial, rust belt and rural areas like Sanders.

 

[ShandyLeer]

Clinton won by over 4 million votes in California alone in 2016, and by just under 3 million votes nationwide. Piling up votes for the Democratic nominee in California, or in New York City, or Washington DC, or Boston, or Baltimore, is not going to change the dynamics in 2024. The Democrats going for Whitmer would make more electoral sense, with the blue wall factor, but is obvious anathema to DNC corporate elites.

In a close race maybe DNC ‘corporate elites’ would be willing to go with whoever has the best route to the WH based on polling ?

 

[RandyRebecca]

Darlin' fuck off.

Love ya for abortion, but fuck off.

Go root for Trump if you're gonna pull this shit.

The DNC never listen. Never. They are the ones that need to fuck off, for good, and do us all a favor.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Sanders would have beaten Trump. He would have changed the Democratic coalition by eating into the Republican white base in a big way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last time that the Democratic presidential nominee won the white vote was in 1964. Clinton is rooted in the big cities and corporate/military sector, not in the industrial, rust belt and rural areas like Sanders.

African Americans are the bedrock of the Democratic Party. They fact that Bernie Sanders might have pulled a few white sexists away from Trump wouldn’t have won 2016 for him.

 

[RandyRebecca]

In a close race maybe DNC ‘corporate elites’ would be willing to go with whoever has the best route to the WH based on polling ?

I think they are just hoping, at this point, to shore up their congressional position.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Honestly, I had hoped Biden would stay in the race. For 2 reasons: 1) I felt Trump would destroy him, 2) To show that the democrats had some loyalty to a man that had served the democratic agenda with all of his might. Now the democrats look in disarray with no clear choice other than Kamala who wasn't qualified to be Vice President. Let's see where this weakened three ring circus goes.

 

[ShandyLeer]

I think they are just hoping, at this point, to shore up their congressional position.

Surely they have some notion of how to beat Trump though ?

 

[Lazaran]

Sanders would have beaten Trump. He would have changed the Democratic coalition by eating into the Republican white base in a big way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last time that the Democratic presidential nominee won the white vote was in 1964. Clinton is rooted in the big cities and corporate/military sector, not in the industrial, rust belt and rural areas like Sanders.

Delusional and demented. "Becky" should drop out of commenting on the PB.



"Becky"

 

[RandyRebecca]

Surely they have some notion of how to beat Trump though ?

https://www.270towin.com/maps/3mPdQ

There's an interactive electoral map in the link above. Try to find a realistic Democratic path to victory. I said yesterday that I can see 270-268 for the Democrats as the absolute best case Democratic scenario, and the best Republican scenario 408-130 to the Republicans.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Delusional and demented. "Becky" should drop out of commenting on the PB.



"Becky"

The copium. How do you feel about the DNC elites/donors (i.e. "moderates", "centrists") forcing Biden out?

 

[ShandyLeer]

https://www.270towin.com/maps/3mPdQ

There's an interactive electoral map in the link above. Try to find a realistic Democratic path to victory. I said yesterday that I can see 270-268 for the Democrats as the absolute best case Democratic scenario, and the best Republican scenario 408-130 to the Republicans.

Agree it’s possibly too late……but this is a big change, and while Trump may have the lead he has no momentum. He’s vulnerable to sustained attack and provocation.

 

[jaF0]

^^ The key is to force Donny out.

 

[Bn2f]

I think they are just hoping, at this point, to shore up their congressional position.

Welcome back RR!

You proved me wrong. I could’ve sworn that you would be saving your shi$$y 3rd party, Jill stein return for AFTER the DNC convention.

The PB was lacking a sage voice representing clueless Americans.

Again, welcome back!

 

[RandyRebecca]

^^ The key is to force Donny out.

Wasn't that attempted on July 13?

 

[adrina]

You specifically blamed the big donor class of white men for unseating him Adrina, it’s a few posts ago ffs.

The media latched on to the meltdown that occurred within minutes of JB taking the stage for the debate. That meltdown was real not invented and media reporting that reality are just doing their job.

Yeah they did. Not denying it. They forced him out after the rising media clamor. Doing their job? Like ignoring Trump's obvious cognitive decline? Writing articles completely omitting Trump's insane statements and ramblings.

That's not the media's job. Sell it to someone else.

The white male donor class flipped their shit after almost 4 weeks of the media endlessly bleating.

 

[adrina]

The DNC never listen. Never. They are the ones that need to fuck off, for good, and do us all a favor.

Yeah cuz that'll help.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Yeah they did. Not denying it. They forced him out after the rising media clamor. Doing their job? Like ignoring Trump's obvious cognitive decline?

Republican voters don't care, for one. Second, Trump's decline is very different, i.e. more energetic. Third, it's hard to tell when Trump is joking or having a senior moment.

The DNC, by contrast, have spent ages gaslighting the American public about Biden's true mental state, accusing videos of being faked, and then flipped 180 when Biden had his Wizard of Oz moment at the debate where the curtain was drawn back. Second, Biden's decline looks far more like one of a really old man. And then there's his crazy foreign policy and the Israel situation, which was already damaging the Democratic coalition long before the debate.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Yeah cuz that'll help.

It would yes. Get rid of all the bourgeois elitists who wreck our society.

 

[adrina]

Republican voters don't care, for one. Second, Trump's decline is very different, i.e. more energetic. Third, it's hard to tell when Trump is joking or have a senior moment.

The DNC, by contrast, have spent ages gaslighting the American public about Biden's true mental state, accusing videos of being faked, and then flipped 180 when Biden had his Wizard of Oz moment at the debate where the curtain was drawn back. Second, Biden's decline looks far more like one of a really old man. And then there's thing that his crazy foreign policy and the Israel situation, which was already damaging the Democratic coalition long before the debate.

Neither do you.

Sorry but I'm gonna leave you to stew. You're single focus is not particularly desirable to deal with right now. Somewhere between no sleep, AC for the first time in almost 36 hours and the whirlwind of the last week... I just don't give two sheep shits about your lame ass self defeating perspective right now.

Have a good night. Or don't. Keep bitching. Whatevs.

 

[ChloeTzang]

^^ The key is to force Donny out.

LOL. They tried that one on July 13.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Yeah they did. Not denying it. They forced him out after the rising media clamor. Doing their job? Like ignoring Trump's obvious cognitive decline? Writing articles completely omitting Trump's insane statements and ramblings.

That's not the media's job. Sell it to someone else.

The white male donor class flipped their shit after almost 4 weeks of the media endlessly bleating.

I agree that the white donor class and the mainstream media flipped out, but Joe Biden did a real jujitsu move this morning and flipped them all over his shoulder. Now its cop vs. con, and all the attacks on Biden's age can be used against Donald Trump.

 

[ShandyLeer]

Yeah they did. Not denying it. They forced him out after the rising media clamor. Doing their job? Like ignoring Trump's obvious cognitive decline? Writing articles completely omitting Trump's insane statements and ramblings.

That's not the media's job. Sell it to someone else.

The white male donor class flipped their shit after almost 4 weeks of the media endlessly bleating.

They flipped out , yes - but that was in process before the debate even ended. Nothing to do with media.

Pelossi and Obama and Schumer were unwilling to commit to JB ever since said debate and that’s nothing to do with the media either.

Trumps ramblings were there for all to hear too, but since there’s no party or wider public collapse of support there’s nothing for media to report is there ?