Why Biden Will Win

[ShandyLeer]

Says you who’s spent 3 weeks giving it the “one bad debate” bullshit.

Arguing against the obvious you say !

 

[adrina]

Says you who’s spent 3 weeks giving it the “one bad debate” bullshit.

Arguing against the obvious you say !

And I still believe that.

But the media hysteria noise became louder than the campaign.

Even though I don't know if he made the right decision, I can say with 100% certainty that his decision was based on love of his country and wanting the best for it.

As opposed to your guy - an old, fat and demented lunatic who wants the presidency to shield himself from the consequences of his crimes. And you support that. You can't defend that so you attack Biden and Harris.

 

[ShandyLeer]

His decision was made based on money drying up, I thought you’d already said this yourself.

The media’s part in this was largely done once they broadcast the debate that Bidens team asked for and caused the wheels to come off, and you can’t blame them for broadcasting that because it’s their job.

 

[adrina]

Nope. That's your imagination, pulled straight out of your ass.

The media harping on it for almost four weeks straight did its job - the trump supporter media got rid of Biden. Now the dog has caught the car. What will they - and you - do?

 

[RandyRebecca]

This ^ is getting reeeeeaaaally close to the situation in 2016 when petulant Bernie Bros slandered Hillary mercilessly, and then, when she lost the election, were all like -“What??? We didn’t do nuthin' wrong”. (Of course, we all know maaaaaany Bernie Bros didn’t even turn out to vote for Hillary in 2016 because "reasons".)

I’m really hoping that 2024 is more like 2020 than 2016.

Side note:

I wonder if the “Never Biden’s - (the left , some in the donor class, Rashida Tlaib and the "anti-Zionists", etc,) realized / realize the added / unnecessary stress they have been putting on President Biden right along.??? (I actually believe they did / do, and that they’re doing it for various self-serving reasons.)

Is it any wonder President Biden is worn down??? The "loyal" left, etc, saw to it that President Biden would be weakened in ALL respects, (imho.)



JFC

SAD!!!

Your precious "centrists", "moderates" etc. from the warmongering wing of the party are who stabbed Biden in the back since the debate. Those same "centrists" forced Clinton through in 2016, and gave us President Trump in the first place, and who forced Biden through in both 2020 and 2024, only to backtrack in the latter. The contempt for democracy from the DNC says it all. Even funnier is that it's taken the so-called "realists", "adults in the room" etc. until the debate to realize what most of the rest of us knew a long time ago about Biden. The Democrats deserve a heavy defeat. They need to be held accountable for their terrible decisions, and must not be allowed to simply sweep them under the table.

 

[ll74]

Your precious "centrists", "moderates" etc. from the warmongering wing of the party are who stabbed Biden in the back since the debate. Those same "centrists" forced Clinton through in 2016, and gave us President Trump in the first place, and who forced Biden through in both 2020 and 2024, only to backtrack in the latter. The contempt for democracy from the DNC says it all. Even funnier is that it's taken the so-called "realists", "adults in the room" etc. until the debate to realize what most of the rest of us knew a long time ago about Biden. The Democrats deserve a heavy defeat. They need to be held accountable for their terrible decisions, and must not be allowed to simply sweep them under the table.

RFK appreciates your vote.

 

[RandyRebecca]

RFK appreciates your vote.

Jill Stein, even if it's a write-in.

 

[ll74]

Jill Stein, even if it's a write-in.

Aah, yes, of course.

 

[RandyRebecca]

So how many white men will vote for Trump over Harris.

Fucking A.

A lot, I should imagine, especially as white men are the group who Trump did worse with in 2020 compared to 2016, whereas Trump did better in 2020 among white women, black men, black women, hispanic men and hispanic women than he did in 2016.

It does raise the question of what the DNC expect.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Aah, yes, of course.

Always vote FOR something, never merely against something. That's democracy, not corruption.

 

[ll74]

Always vote FOR something, never merely against something. That's democracy, not corruption.

Good job. I always vote for something as well.

 

[Lazaran]

Your precious "centrists", "moderates" etc. from the warmongering wing of the party are who stabbed Biden in the back since the debate. Those same "centrists" forced Clinton through in 2016, and gave us President Trump in the first place, and who forced Biden through in both 2020 and 2024, only to backtrack in the latter. The contempt for democracy from the DNC says it all. Even funnier is that it's taken the so-called "realists", "adults in the room" etc. until the debate to realize what most of the rest of us knew a long time ago about Biden. The Democrats deserve a heavy defeat. They need to be held accountable for their terrible decisions, and must not be allowed to simply sweep them under the table.

Take a good looooooooong look at what President Biden and Hillary Clinton WERE (and now, what Kamala Harris IS) up against - IN ADDITION to fighting against the far right racists and fascists. ("Christian" white nationalists).



JFC

SAD!!!

 

[RandyRebecca]

Yup. Because there is no perfect candidate and they all want a fucking superman.

That's what the Democrats get for anointing Biden through the 2024 primaries, and then doing a 180 in July of the election year. And now they try to force Democratic rank and file in line behind Harris. They have some nerve.

 

[AlexBailey]

Your personal facts are irrelevant to truth or law.

But keep on dredging up those strawmen so you can soothe your hurt feelers that Biden dropped out.

Sorry dipshit, but as an example - genetic parentage is a fact that can be in conflict with the legal status.

Someone who committed murder but gets off on a technicality, like say the police mixed up evidence, still in fact is a murderer, regardless of what the legal outcome is in court.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Take a good looooooooong look at what President Biden and Hillary Clinton WERE (and now, what Kamala Harris IS) up against - IN ADDITION to fighting against the far right racists and fascists. ("Christian" white nationalists).



JFC

SAD!!!

Did the DNC realize that when they waged war against Bernie Sanders? They preferred President Trump to President Sanders.

 

[adrina]

That's what the Democrats get for anointing Biden through the 2024 primaries, and then doing a 180 in July of the election year. And now they try to force Democratic rank and file in line behind Harris. They have some nerve.

Darlin' fuck off.

Love ya for abortion, but fuck off.

Go root for Trump if you're gonna pull this shit.

 

[ChloeTzang]

His decision was made based on money drying up, I thought you’d already said this yourself.

And the big question now, for Harris, if she ends up being the one, is funding. When will sget get it, where from, and will it be enough to even allow her to put up a fight?Obviously the MSM will give her a LOT of free air time, but still, ads ARE important for visibility....and $'s for running campaign. Biden's funding does not automatically switch to Harris.

Federal Election Commission (FEC) Chairman Sean Cooksey announced today (Sunday) that all donations made to Joe Biden for the November election “shall be either returned or refunded” or redesignated “as appropriate” following his departure from the presidential race. The exceptions and loopholes for redesignating or reattributing the funds are clearly covered in the regulations. They all need to be done in writing, and that will take time. Since Biden had not yet formally been nominated he may not be legally able transfer his $100 million fighting fund to Harris. Before the nomination officially goes to Mr. Biden, his campaign is limited to donating $2,000 to the Democratic nominee, whether that new standard bearer is Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer or Ms. Harris.

The Biden for President campaign states that the committee was the principal campaign committee for both Mr. Biden and Ms. Harris. At the time nobody had reason to question that maneuver, and if at the Democratic convention Biden and Harris emerged as their party’s nominees, then there won’t be a need to challenge the premature designation. If, however, Mr. Biden were to drop out before being nominated and attempt an unprecedented and possibly illegal unlimited transfer of funds to Ms. Harris, the courts would likely interpret the plain language of the statute to prohibit such a contribution.

If President Biden is committed to passing the torch to his vice president, and wants to be able to seed her campaign with the current Biden for President campaign war chest, he’ll first have to become his party’s legal nominee. After shuffling through the Democratic National Committee’s planned roll call vote he’d be free to drop out. Ms. Harris could seamlessly slip into the driver’s seat. That’s a risky strategy, as it requires maintaining an obvious fiction under intense public scrutiny for another six weeks.

OMG this is going to be fun to watch.

 

[ShandyLeer]

Nope. That's your imagination, pulled straight out of your ass.

The media harping on it for almost four weeks straight did its job - the trump supporter media got rid of Biden. Now the dog has caught the car. What will they - and you - do?

You specifically blamed the big donor class of white men for unseating him Adrina, it’s a few posts ago ffs.

The media latched on to the meltdown that occurred within minutes of JB taking the stage for the debate. That meltdown was real not invented and media reporting that reality are just doing their job.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Did the DNC realize that when they waged war against Bernie Sanders? They preferred President Trump to President Sanders.

Bernie Sanders was too unpopular to win the Democratic primary against Hillary Clinton, let alone the general election against Donald Trump.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Hillary won the popular vote in 2016.

Clinton won by over 4 million votes in California alone in 2016, and by just under 3 million votes nationwide. Piling up votes for the Democratic nominee in California, or in New York City, or Washington DC, or Boston, or Baltimore, is not going to change the dynamics in 2024. The Democrats going for Whitmer would make more electoral sense, with the blue wall factor, but is obvious anathema to DNC corporate elites.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Bernie Sanders was too unpopular to win the Democratic primary against Hillary Clinton, let alone the general election against Donald Trump.

Sanders would have beaten Trump. He would have changed the Democratic coalition by eating into the Republican white base in a big way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last time that the Democratic presidential nominee won the white vote was in 1964. Clinton is rooted in the big cities and corporate/military sector, not in the industrial, rust belt and rural areas like Sanders.

 

[ShandyLeer]

Clinton won by over 4 million votes in California alone in 2016, and by just under 3 million votes nationwide. Piling up votes for the Democratic nominee in California, or in New York City, or Washington DC, or Boston, or Baltimore, is not going to change the dynamics in 2024. The Democrats going for Whitmer would make more electoral sense, with the blue wall factor, but is obvious anathema to DNC corporate elites.

In a close race maybe DNC ‘corporate elites’ would be willing to go with whoever has the best route to the WH based on polling ?

 

[RandyRebecca]

Darlin' fuck off.

Love ya for abortion, but fuck off.

Go root for Trump if you're gonna pull this shit.

The DNC never listen. Never. They are the ones that need to fuck off, for good, and do us all a favor.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Sanders would have beaten Trump. He would have changed the Democratic coalition by eating into the Republican white base in a big way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last time that the Democratic presidential nominee won the white vote was in 1964. Clinton is rooted in the big cities and corporate/military sector, not in the industrial, rust belt and rural areas like Sanders.

African Americans are the bedrock of the Democratic Party. They fact that Bernie Sanders might have pulled a few white sexists away from Trump wouldn’t have won 2016 for him.

 

[RandyRebecca]

In a close race maybe DNC ‘corporate elites’ would be willing to go with whoever has the best route to the WH based on polling ?

I think they are just hoping, at this point, to shore up their congressional position.