Shot fired at Trump?

[butters]

Or ... Trump knew he wasn't in danger because it was all a set-up to get the photo.

Donald Trump has never displayed physical courage before.

if the gunman had been an expert marksman, ex-armed forces with years of experience? then it'd have a chance of being possible. i know it looked like the very best set-up to see trump ride the public sympathy and outrage wave right into the White House, but i also think facts that have come to light so far go against that possibility.
Is it possible the shooter, himself, thought he'd shoot and miss to make trump look great, to further trump's cause? maybe but he must have been aware he'd likely die either there after the attempt of something resulting from the explosives in his vehicle and home. It could even be he got mad at trump for not committing to a total abortion ban or trying to distance himself from the extremist 2025 agenda. Maybe we'll find out in the future, maybe not.

this was a relatively inexperienced twenty-year-old. do you imagine trump would take a chance on getting seriously hurt by condoning him as the 'assassin"? can't see it, myself.

 

[dmallord]

Apparently that means you live in California.

The song is a good one, but I'm not from California. I have been there several times but have not lived there. My first intro was Fort Ord, the curse of many a man and demon. The second was driving down Rodeo Drive and stopping to pick up a flower child hitchhiker in a see-through dress from top to bottom. The second time was a delightful experience—the first, not so much.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

if the gunman had been an expert marksman, ex-armed forces with years of experience? then it'd have a chance of being possible. i know it looked like the very best set-up to see trump ride the public sympathy and outrage wave right into the White House, but i also think facts that have come to light so far go against that possibility.
Is it possible the shooter, himself, thought he'd shoot and miss to make trump look great, to further trump's cause? maybe but he must have been aware he'd likely die either there after the attempt of something resulting from the explosives in his vehicle and home. It could even be he got mad at trump for not committing to a total abortion ban or trying to distance himself from the extremist 2025 agenda. Maybe we'll find out in the future, maybe not.

this was a relatively inexperienced twenty-year-old. do you imagine trump would take a chance on getting seriously hurt by condoning him as the 'assassin"? can't see it, myself.

We don't know how Trump's ear was injured. Even a bad shot could easily miss Trump by firing into the crowd behind him.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Joining in on the conspiracy group theorist side of wild accusations? Why?

We don't have to consider that point at all. We need to let the investigation and background checks on the Crooks proceed, knowing our law enforcement is trained and responsive to such events in an unbiased manner. To do otherwise is to lean into nut jobs like Ican'thelp or conspiratorial Chloe.

Please, don't go there!

You know two others are in the hospital with critical injuries caused by bullet wounds as well?

Yes, I don't deny that Crooks shot into the crowd. The question is, was Donald Trump actually shot by Crooks?

 

[AlexBailey]

We don't know how Trump's ear was injured. Even a bad shot could easily miss Trump by firing into the crowd behind him.

You seem to be brainstorming for explanations outside of what little evidence has been provided. There’s a line between exploring possibilities and finding likelihoods.

Occam’s razor seems pretty sharp on this one so far.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

You seem to be brainstorming for explanations outside of what little evidence has been provided. There’s a line between exploring possibilities and finding likelihoods.

Occam’s razor seems pretty sharp on this one so far.

The simplest explanation is that the Trump campaign convinced a patsy to take a potshot near Trump for a photo-op

There is no evidence to support the allegation that this was an assassination attempt.

 

[Rightguide]

All of the "Second Amendment people" here have discussed whether or not you could've have made the "killshot".... except you.

Could you have hit a stationary target from 150 yards away from your preferred rifle with a scope? Hmm?

Tell us.

I have rifles that are capable of sub-minute of angle accuracy. You can look up what that means and arrive at your own conclusions.

 

[dmallord]

I'm a lawyer, I only talk facts. Spewing garbage is totally your purview and you have tons of experience at it.

"Now wet'ah mint, that rite 'thar is'ah damned liar!" the bilked client said pointin' to his law'er. "Ya kin tell, 'cause he's lips er movin'!"

 

[butters]

We don't know how Trump's ear was injured. Even a bad shot could easily miss Trump by firing into the crowd behind him.

i know trump doesn't care about his supporters... he's said it himself.
but even if he did get hit by flying glass from a damaged teleprompter (something as yet unconfirmed as far as we know since one of the 2 sources who claimed that made an FB post saying the same then deleted it and i've yet to find any hospital confirming bullet OR glass), i simply don't see any competent staffer assigning the job to anyone other than a true marksman... and a true marksman would be unlikely to risk potential severe damage to trump from flying glass! Having said that, with trump's penchant for hiring incompetents... well, it writes itself but i do think it's grasping in the dark now to attach oneself to a team-trump-hired pretend assassin.

 

[Rightguide]

The simplest explanation is that the Trump campaign convinced a patsy to take a potshot near Trump for a photo-op

There is no evidence to support the allegation that this was an assassination attempt.

You are indeed a shameful crazed lunatic. Truly simple minded.

 

[Aglaopheme]

That wasn’t courage, it was defiance. They can seem a lot alike but they aren’t the same.

It was ego.

 

[butters]

The simplest explanation is that the Trump campaign convinced a patsy to take a potshot near Trump for a photo-op

There is no evidence to support the allegation that this was an assassination attempt.

so how do you frame the whole explosives-in vehical-and-home situation? are you saying he was framed by the same people?

i am not denying a possibility, but i do think you are allowing yourself to frame this as you want to see it rather than going by hard facts. we'll see.

 

[AlexBailey]

The simplest explanation is that the Trump campaign convinced a patsy to take a potshot near Trump for a photo-op

There is no evidence to support the allegation that this was an assassination attempt.

Okay. I don’t think it makes sense for anyone to hire such a young and inexperienced person to shoot into a crowd toward Trump with a high powered rifle if they in fact support Trump. It just doesn’t make sense.

The SS is an elite institution. They pride themselves on doing their job. I can’t imagine there being enough of them willing to sacrifice their professionalism for such a thing. It certainly would have required the cooperation of several agents.

Hearing so many theories come up with zero substantiation is akin to Q-anon bullshit. It undermines the credibility of those repeating it.

 

[CuriousRick]

 

[Rightguide]

Or ... Trump knew he wasn't in danger because it was all a set-up to get the photo.

Donald Trump has never displayed physical courage before.

You just don't know how or where to look. What other American would have the courage to stand up and face the full weight of all that has been thrown at him over the last several years without folding? Nobody you know.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Okay. I don’t think it makes sense for anyone to hire such a young and inexperienced person to shoot into a crowd toward Trump with a high powered rifle if they in fact support Trump. It just doesn’t make sense.

The SS is an elite institution. They pride themselves on doing their job. I can’t imagine there being enough of them willing to sacrifice their professionalism for such a thing. It certainly would have required the cooperation of several agents.

Hearing so many theories come up with zero substantiation is akin to Q-anon bullshit. It undermines the credibility of those repeating it.

I think we can both agree that an in-depth investigation is called for.

 

[jomar]

That wasn’t courage, it was defiance. They can seem a lot alike but they aren’t the same.

It was ego.

Narcissistic rage: Internal dialogue-HOW DARE ANYONE!!! Out loud verbal-FIGHT! FUCK! FIGHT!

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

so how do you frame the whole explosives-in vehical-and-home situation? are you saying he was framed by the same people?

i am not denying a possibility, but i do think you are allowing yourself to frame this as you want to see it rather than going by hard facts. we'll see.

We don't know what Crooks intended after he fired the shot at the rally. We also don't know if Donald Trump was hit by the bullet Crooks fired.

 

[butters]

Images of Crooks’ body reviewed by the Associated Press shows he appears to have been wearing a T-shirt from Demolition Ranch, a popular YouTube channel with more than 11.6 million subscribers that regularly posts videos that show creator Matt Carriker firing off handguns and assault rifles at targets that include human mannequins and vehicles.

Carriker did not immediately respond to outreach on social media and by phone from The Times. However, he had posted a photo of Crooks’ bloody corpse wearing his brand’s T-shirt on social media with the comment “What the hell.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2...p&cvid=b9c7c98ff0a84421e00a4f3c2058ff80&ei=55

i don't know why crooks chose to shoot at trump

i do think his background of being ostracised & bullied are a component of his interest in guns as a means to making him feel more powerful.
while seemingly fairly smart and employed in a job calling for empathy, it's much easier for the ostracised to become addicted to the kind of online 'family' attention/communication and respect he may have found amongst other gun enthusiasts who weren't interacting with him in the flesh... and though the majority of people viewing the same material may only become desensitised to a point, a person such as crooks might get almost addicted to and steered by the thoughts he was seeing represented by such imagery.

 

[AlexBailey]

You just know how or where to look. What other American would have the courage to stand up and face the full weight of all that has been thrown at him over the last several years without folding? Nobody you know.

Courage involves facing danger or fear with bravery and implies a sense of altruism. Sociopaths don’t experience fear in the same way as others. They typically take risks driven by self-interest rather than a moral cause.

 

[contrifan32]

The simplest explanation is that the Trump campaign convinced a patsy to take a potshot near Trump for a photo-op

There is no evidence to support the allegation that this was an assassination attempt.

The TDS that you and others on this board continue to spew never ceases to amaze me.

 

[icanhelp1]

You are indeed a shameful crazed lunatic. Truly simple minded.

She deserves a slot on the VIEW with the other delusional conspiracy crackpots.

 

[Buffalogurl]

Yes, I don't deny that Crooks shot into the crowd. The question is, was Donald Trump actually shot by Crooks?

There are unconfirmed reports of a second shooter..... however I, myself wouldn't put it past certain groups of individuals to do that very thing..... Trump has a boat load of enemies......
The fact remains the United States came very close to a civil upheaval........ just the retaliation alone, in my humble opinion had/has a very great possibility of resulting in martial law with unintended consequences including a stock market crash.

 

[Lazaran]

Overall, a great take from Adam, as usual, but the fact that he didn’t include the possibility that Crooks was a far right radical trying to spark a civil war is a bit disappointing.



The part about the donation to a liberal cause being debunked didn’t surprise me in the least: Nothing about it made sense in the first place.



Ultimately, the MAGAts trying to pin the violent actions of Crooks on something Democrats have said or done is as farcical as it is infuriating.



JFC

SAD!!!

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

There are unconfirmed reports of a second shooter..... however I, myself wouldn't put it past certain groups of individuals to do that very thing..... Trump has a boat load of enemies......
The fact remains the United States came very close to a civil upheaval........ just the retaliation alone, in my humble opinion had/has a very great possibility of resulting in martial law with unintended consequences including a stock market crash.

The possibility of a second shooter is exactly why the secret service allowing Trump to stand in full view and do the fist pump was so irresponsible.