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Lootequiette: Pmann's Totally Original/Unaffiliated Thread

Well, this caused quite a stir as I suspected it would.

To BFG’s point, people would applaud it if it was the other way around, but that doesn’t make it right.

Was my post in poor taste? Sure. It was.

I did make this post knowingly. Was it to hurt? No. It wasn’t meant to hurt. If it did hurt Tig, then I apologize for that. That was genuinely not the intent.

As for those addressing “trust” and all that… I’ve had plenty of my shit aired on the board here and in private through various means. I kept silent with it. I didn’t do this out of anger. I did it out of annoyance. I didn’t air anything that wasn’t aired before in some shape or another, so please stop that misconception. The amount of things that made it back to me is quite astounding.

I will delete the message if Tig would like or if any moderators would like (although they can delete on their own). I will also leave it up as I certainly deserve to have a record of my post.

We had a whole talk about cliquey behaviour and some people accepted responsibility for some of their wrongs. So, I definitely accept responsibility for this. If it caused hurt, I’m sorry. That wasn’t why I posted it, despite what many will think. I posted it to clarify a lot of the things that have been said. Could I and should I have done it a better way? Yes.

Like I said, if Tig wants me to delete it, I will. If she wants it left up, I will.

For the bystanders who were harmed with my post… sorry to you, too. But I suspect you’ll be okay.
 
Lord Pmann said:
Well, this caused quite a stir as I suspected it would.

To BFG’s point, people would applaud it if it was the other way around, but that doesn’t make it right.

Was my post in poor taste? Sure. It was.

I did make this post knowingly. Was it to hurt? No. It wasn’t meant to hurt. If it did hurt Tig, then I apologize for that. That was genuinely not the intent.

As for those addressing “trust” and all that… I’ve had plenty of my shit aired on the board here and in private through various means. I kept silent with it. I didn’t do this out of anger. I did it out of annoyance. I didn’t air anything that wasn’t aired before in some shape or another, so please stop that misconception. The amount of things that made it back to me is quite astounding.

I will delete the message if Tig would like or if any moderators would like (although they can delete on their own). I will also leave it up as I certainly deserve to have a record of my post.

We had a whole talk about cliquey behaviour and some people accepted responsibility for some of their wrongs. So, I definitely accept responsibility for this. If it caused hurt, I’m sorry. That wasn’t why I posted it, despite what many will think. I posted it to clarify a lot of the things that have been said. Could I and should I have done it a better way? Yes.

Like I said, if Tig wants me to delete it, I will. If she wants it left up, I will.

For the bystanders who were harmed with my post… sorry to you, too. But I suspect you’ll be okay.
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I honestly don't know how you can say your intent was not to hurt. Did you read what you wrote? It's gross behavior. No rationalizing it. Say what you want but everyone can see what you intended.
 
I mean, if anyone ever needs evidence of a woman here being attacked for telling her story and calling out a liked guy, I’ll throw my hat in. There are links. Lots of glorious fun for past me here at Lit.

I wasn’t the first or the last, but I won’t drag other women down. I can verify, from personal experience, that women get shit here, too. It’s actually something that led to me stepping in to the mod role, to be able to help when I could.

ETA: Incidentally, I didn’t even out the guy publicly. A friend thought it was a great idea. Another woman and I messaged him privately at the same time, telling him what we knew. A good friend of mine (whom I love and who had the best intentions) posted something like “A Lit guy is having a very bad day.” That brought on the vitriol. For a guy that so many already knew was a creep. More found out, though. Because the guys get forgiven and “it’s just Lit, not rl” passes, too.
 
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Lord Pmann said:
How would we deal with fame?

Do you think you’d like the lifestyle?
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Not well. I am not a people person and I don’t like interacting with strangers. People walking up to me with a smile on their face would set off my instinct to defend myself rather than get ready to sign an autograph. I honestly don’t know how people do it. I would hate it!
Lord Pmann said:
Do you think you would be a good famous person or an obnoxious one?
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I would be an elusive one. Kind of like the Unibomber. He was famous, right? 🤔
Lord Pmann said:
Do you experience any of this privilege currently at any scale?
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I am the wind.
I am the shadows.
I can walk through a room and no one will even notice. 🥷
 
I think a big part of the clique issue is threads no longer being limited to 5,000 posts. Thus you have threads with thousands of pages, often with a relatively small numbers of participants, that can give the impression of an in-group that dominates the board’s flow. Even with the thread limit, there were in-groups too. What more often happens is that people eventually drop off or fade into the background (usually because of real life), to be replaced by new enthusiasts who are simpatico.

Above all, I believe people should Lit how they wish, even be a throuple,
as long as they don’t degrade or threaten others. Actually, above that “above all,” Lit is optional. If it’s not doing it for you, take a break or leave totally.
 
ydahecnot said:
I think a big part of the clique issue is threads no longer being limited to 5,000 posts. Thus you have threads with thousands of pages, often with a relatively small numbers of participants, that can give the impression of an in-group that dominates the board’s flow. Even with the thread limit, there were in-groups too. What more often happens is that people eventually drop off or fade into the background (usually because of real life), to be replaced by new enthusiasts who are simpatico.

Above all, I believe people should Lit how they wish, even be a throuple,
as long as they don’t degrade or threaten others. Actually, above that “above all,” Lit is optional. If it’s not doing it for you, take a break or leave totally.
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I agree with you.
Part of me misses the charm that came with thread length limitations. We all moved a little slower because there were no notifications either.
 
aussiegeekygal said:
I agree with you.
Part of me misses the charm that came with thread length limitations. We all moved a little slower because there were no notifications either.
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I enabled notifications for PMs, but we didn’t have tagging. I rarely tag anyone; just not in the habit. And I am rarely tagged because I am not around much. I don’t mind notifications for reactions, though
 
ydahecnot said:
I think a big part of the clique issue is threads no longer being limited to 5,000 posts.
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Until the Cock Talk highjack I didn't even realize this had occurred. Only then did I see that post count was in the 7,000s, well on it's to a second closure.

ydahecnot said:
Actually, above that “above all,” Lit is optional. If it’s not doing it for you, take a break or leave totally.
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So this^. Sometimes the people or current threads simply don't appeal. I've taken breaks of six months or longer. 🤷‍♀️
 
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