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Lootequiette: Pmann's Totally Original/Unaffiliated Thread

Lord Pmann said:
Do you think you’d like the lifestyle?
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Having money? I'd love that for sure.
Lord Pmann said:
Do you think you would be a good famous person or an obnoxious one?
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I think I'd basically be me but with money. Hopefully people would have "I met NRJ and he did something funny" stories.
Lord Pmann said:
Do you experience any of this privilege currently at any scale?
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I've been a part of various nerd forums over the years and I've been recognized at events. Also I'm a local musician so I see people who recognize me or know me sometimes. It's cool, usually because it's positive.
 
Books, shoes and money to go wherever I want whenever I want sounds pretty amazing to me. The fame bit, recognition and people being in my business 24/7...no thanks. The introvert in me would die a thousand deaths.
 
Tigobitties98 said:
Oh, my sweet summer child, no it wasn't a corporate acquisition, just the feelings of an actual human being. And, it was never about the coin toss, but the behavior afterward. White boy, how can you be so intelligent, and yet so daft.
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Shall I tell the whole story so it doesn’t look like I’m some evil man taking advantage of some poor pitiful girl? I will.

Since you’ve taken a number of jabs on me on the forum since we stopped talking, I don’t think you mind airing it in public. You’ve talked about it openly. I normally don’t air my own drama, but this hung on a while. And I normally bite my tongue when you post these things, but I won’t anymore. People can make their own decisions on who the daft one is. But I won’t continue to allow you to paint me as someone with lack of care for your feelings without telling my side.

You messaged me initially based on a music post I made. We talked a fair amount, as we seemed to have a decent back and forth. I explained to you that I didn’t want anything exclusive (not assuming you were even interested, just that it wasn’t something I would do again). You said you would never develop feelings or anything like that and there was no issue with it, as your marriage was great and your life is amazing. You said you wouldn’t even exchange pics and I’d never see your face.

After a lot of talking and everything, you offered pics and often said, “I can’t believe I’m sending this or that.” I didn’t ask for these things. You sent them. I received them happily and was more than welcoming (and reciprocated), but I never pushed it. I told you time and time again I wouldn’t ask for it, as you told me that you wouldn’t send stuff. It was always you. When you wanted to see my dick, you asked for it. I didn’t offer it. You asked and even said, “I cant believe I’m doing this.” Once you got more comfortable, it was obvious your rules relaxed.

There was the conversation that you would send your boobs if I won a coin toss. I didn’t push you for that or pressure you. You never asserted I did. You know there’s a 50/50 shot you’re gonna show boobs. I told you, “If it’s heads I win, tails you lose.” It ended up being heads. You showed them to me. Then when I told you the semantics game I played, you were annoyed. If it was tails, you would’ve obviously fought back (assuming you wanted to keep up the front that you didn’t want to show your tits). I would’ve had zero ability to hold you to that, nor would I have expected it. And since you showed them to me numerous times afterwards in various mediums, I suspect it wasn’t the biggest of deals. You were even upset when there were times you could not do stuff. However, I did apologize if it came off as mean, as it was just a joke and I wasn’t genuinely trying to trick you. I didn’t need to trick you for anything. Plus, you’re a smart person who told me numerous times how you can handle guys with ease, so how could I possibly trick you?

Again, throughout our time talking, I mentioned numerous times I am not exclusive and I won’t do that and checked with you every step of the way that you were okay with anything we did. You always assured me you were. It would’ve been condescending to assume otherwise.

Then, you wanted to meet me. I did not agree to meet you. There are a few reasons for it. Some of those reasons are my own and some of them were to protect you. The main reason regarding you was that I didn’t want you to do something you regret. You were really keen. It’s easy to get caught up in lust and emotions and everything. I knew you weren’t thinking clearly.

Around this time, you realized that I meant what I was saying this whole time that I didn’t want to be exclusive. When the penny dropped for you, you freaked out. I offered to call, I spoke with you and tried to help you. By your own admission, you said I was clear and I mentioned it numerous times, you just didn’t realize that I meant I was actually not exclusive with you. You got carried away. I even apologized if there was any way I was unclear, to which you replied I wasn’t and none of this was my fault. To quote you, this was your mistake and you didn’t expect to catch feelings (even though I told you how possible it was, making sure you understood the realities of this site). I talked to you for quite a while, trying to make better whatever I could. You said it was simply a matter of having time.

So to hear you say that I don’t recognize the feelings of a human on the other side of the screen… that’s just a bit rich, given how many times I checked in with you along the way. You got your feelings hurt because I didn’t feel the same way. And I hate that for you. I really do. It doesn’t feel good and we’ve all been there. We see things as one way and the other person has a different perception. From what you say, guys are always flirting and trying to get with you (your own words). Maybe when there was an inequity in feelings, it stung extra hard. I don’t know. I just know that very few guys would’ve been so understanding and checked with you every time you were about to do something you hadn’t done before. Most people would have just gone for it.

Then, after everything went down, you post this little number in the Dear Abby thread.


Post 137:

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/dear-chemgirl-abby.1595383/page-6#post-98149914

You left a lot of details out of the story. You’re happy to paint yourself as a victim who has since reclaimed herself after someone wronged you. I’ve never posted a thing to you until this thread in reference to this ordeal. You’ve posted numerous things about it and I haven’t said boo. I’ve given you space to heal and all that, but I’m a bit tired of the remarks. This one just painted such an unfair pic. So, above are the details.

In fairness, if there’s anything I posted that wasn’t 100% truthful, let me know and I’ll redact it or add it to the story.

Sincerely,

Deep Sea Angler Fish
 
I leave the country for one weekend and this place blows up on me.

I am not going back to figure out that snowballing hell...

Do you think you’d like the lifestyle?
No. When I was younger I would have said yes. These days I value peace and privacy.

Do you think you would be a good famous person or an obnoxious one?
It depends on how much I got harassed. I understand that people mean well and would aim to treat them as such. That being said, I can get annoyed by the very mediocre comments about my height from random strangers. I can't imagine that level of commentary about my existence on a daily basis.

Do you experience any of this privilege currently at any scale?
Yes.
 
Lord Pmann said:
Shall I tell the whole story so it doesn’t look like I’m some evil man taking advantage of some poor pitiful girl? I will.

Since you’ve taken a number of jabs on me on the forum since we stopped talking, I don’t think you mind airing it in public. You’ve talked about it openly. I normally don’t air my own drama, but this hung on a while. And I normally bite my tongue when you post these things, but I won’t anymore. People can make their own decisions on who the daft one is. But I won’t continue to allow you to paint me as someone with lack of care for your feelings without telling my side.

You messaged me initially based on a music post I made. We talked a fair amount, as we seemed to have a decent back and forth. I explained to you that I didn’t want anything exclusive (not assuming you were even interested, just that it wasn’t something I would do again). You said you would never develop feelings or anything like that and there was no issue with it, as your marriage was great and your life is amazing. You said you wouldn’t even exchange pics and I’d never see your face.

After a lot of talking and everything, you offered pics and often said, “I can’t believe I’m sending this or that.” I didn’t ask for these things. You sent them. I received them happily and was more than welcoming (and reciprocated), but I never pushed it. I told you time and time again I wouldn’t ask for it, as you told me that you wouldn’t send stuff. It was always you. When you wanted to see my dick, you asked for it. I didn’t offer it. You asked and even said, “I cant believe I’m doing this.” Once you got more comfortable, it was obvious your rules relaxed.

There was the conversation that you would send your boobs if I won a coin toss. I didn’t push you for that or pressure you. You never asserted I did. You know there’s a 50/50 shot you’re gonna show boobs. I told you, “If it’s heads I win, tails you lose.” It ended up being heads. You showed them to me. Then when I told you the semantics game I played, you were annoyed. If it was tails, you would’ve obviously fought back (assuming you wanted to keep up the front that you didn’t want to show your tits). I would’ve had zero ability to hold you to that, nor would I have expected it. And since you showed them to me numerous times afterwards in various mediums, I suspect it wasn’t the biggest of deals. You were even upset when there were times you could not do stuff. However, I did apologize if it came off as mean, as it was just a joke and I wasn’t genuinely trying to trick you. I didn’t need to trick you for anything. Plus, you’re a smart person who told me numerous times how you can handle guys with ease, so how could I possibly trick you?

Again, throughout our time talking, I mentioned numerous times I am not exclusive and I won’t do that and checked with you every step of the way that you were okay with anything we did. You always assured me you were. It would’ve been condescending to assume otherwise.

Then, you wanted to meet me. I did not agree to meet you. There are a few reasons for it. Some of those reasons are my own and some of them were to protect you. The main reason regarding you was that I didn’t want you to do something you regret. You were really keen. It’s easy to get caught up in lust and emotions and everything. I knew you weren’t thinking clearly.

Around this time, you realized that I meant what I was saying this whole time that I didn’t want to be exclusive. When the penny dropped for you, you freaked out. I offered to call, I spoke with you and tried to help you. By your own admission, you said I was clear and I mentioned it numerous times, you just didn’t realize that I meant I was actually not exclusive with you. You got carried away. I even apologized if there was any way I was unclear, to which you replied I wasn’t and none of this was my fault. To quote you, this was your mistake and you didn’t expect to catch feelings (even though I told you how possible it was, making sure you understood the realities of this site). I talked to you for quite a while, trying to make better whatever I could. You said it was simply a matter of having time.

So to hear you say that I don’t recognize the feelings of a human on the other side of the screen… that’s just a bit rich, given how many times I checked in with you along the way. You got your feelings hurt because I didn’t feel the same way. And I hate that for you. I really do. It doesn’t feel good and we’ve all been there. We see things as one way and the other person has a different perception. From what you say, guys are always flirting and trying to get with you (your own words). Maybe when there was an inequity in feelings, it stung extra hard. I don’t know. I just know that very few guys would’ve been so understanding and checked with you every time you were about to do something you hadn’t done before. Most people would have just gone for it.

Then, after everything went down, you post this little number in the Dear Abby thread.


Post 137:

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/dear-chemgirl-abby.1595383/page-6#post-98149914

You left a lot of details out of the story. You’re happy to paint yourself as a victim who has since reclaimed herself after someone wronged you. I’ve never posted a thing to you until this thread in reference to this ordeal. You’ve posted numerous things about it and I haven’t said boo. I’ve given you space to heal and all that, but I’m a bit tired of the remarks. This one just painted such an unfair pic. So, above are the details.

In fairness, if there’s anything I posted that wasn’t 100% truthful, let me know and I’ll redact it or add it to the story.

Sincerely,

Deep Sea Angler Fish
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I feel like this was very unnecessary. Tig didn't share specifics about your relationship in any of her posts - and this is such a breach of her trust, in my opinion. Whether or not things worked out for various reasons. I should not know these details and whether or not there are two perspectives I cannot believe you would share these intimate details with all of lit.

I'm actually disappointed. I thought better of you than this.
 
Lord Pmann said:
Shall I tell the whole story so it doesn’t look like I’m some evil man taking advantage of some poor pitiful girl? I will.

Since you’ve taken a number of jabs on me on the forum since we stopped talking, I don’t think you mind airing it in public. You’ve talked about it openly. I normally don’t air my own drama, but this hung on a while. And I normally bite my tongue when you post these things, but I won’t anymore. People can make their own decisions on who the daft one is. But I won’t continue to allow you to paint me as someone with lack of care for your feelings without telling my side.

You messaged me initially based on a music post I made. We talked a fair amount, as we seemed to have a decent back and forth. I explained to you that I didn’t want anything exclusive (not assuming you were even interested, just that it wasn’t something I would do again). You said you would never develop feelings or anything like that and there was no issue with it, as your marriage was great and your life is amazing. You said you wouldn’t even exchange pics and I’d never see your face.

After a lot of talking and everything, you offered pics and often said, “I can’t believe I’m sending this or that.” I didn’t ask for these things. You sent them. I received them happily and was more than welcoming (and reciprocated), but I never pushed it. I told you time and time again I wouldn’t ask for it, as you told me that you wouldn’t send stuff. It was always you. When you wanted to see my dick, you asked for it. I didn’t offer it. You asked and even said, “I cant believe I’m doing this.” Once you got more comfortable, it was obvious your rules relaxed.

There was the conversation that you would send your boobs if I won a coin toss. I didn’t push you for that or pressure you. You never asserted I did. You know there’s a 50/50 shot you’re gonna show boobs. I told you, “If it’s heads I win, tails you lose.” It ended up being heads. You showed them to me. Then when I told you the semantics game I played, you were annoyed. If it was tails, you would’ve obviously fought back (assuming you wanted to keep up the front that you didn’t want to show your tits). I would’ve had zero ability to hold you to that, nor would I have expected it. And since you showed them to me numerous times afterwards in various mediums, I suspect it wasn’t the biggest of deals. You were even upset when there were times you could not do stuff. However, I did apologize if it came off as mean, as it was just a joke and I wasn’t genuinely trying to trick you. I didn’t need to trick you for anything. Plus, you’re a smart person who told me numerous times how you can handle guys with ease, so how could I possibly trick you?

Again, throughout our time talking, I mentioned numerous times I am not exclusive and I won’t do that and checked with you every step of the way that you were okay with anything we did. You always assured me you were. It would’ve been condescending to assume otherwise.

Then, you wanted to meet me. I did not agree to meet you. There are a few reasons for it. Some of those reasons are my own and some of them were to protect you. The main reason regarding you was that I didn’t want you to do something you regret. You were really keen. It’s easy to get caught up in lust and emotions and everything. I knew you weren’t thinking clearly.

Around this time, you realized that I meant what I was saying this whole time that I didn’t want to be exclusive. When the penny dropped for you, you freaked out. I offered to call, I spoke with you and tried to help you. By your own admission, you said I was clear and I mentioned it numerous times, you just didn’t realize that I meant I was actually not exclusive with you. You got carried away. I even apologized if there was any way I was unclear, to which you replied I wasn’t and none of this was my fault. To quote you, this was your mistake and you didn’t expect to catch feelings (even though I told you how possible it was, making sure you understood the realities of this site). I talked to you for quite a while, trying to make better whatever I could. You said it was simply a matter of having time.

So to hear you say that I don’t recognize the feelings of a human on the other side of the screen… that’s just a bit rich, given how many times I checked in with you along the way. You got your feelings hurt because I didn’t feel the same way. And I hate that for you. I really do. It doesn’t feel good and we’ve all been there. We see things as one way and the other person has a different perception. From what you say, guys are always flirting and trying to get with you (your own words). Maybe when there was an inequity in feelings, it stung extra hard. I don’t know. I just know that very few guys would’ve been so understanding and checked with you every time you were about to do something you hadn’t done before. Most people would have just gone for it.

Then, after everything went down, you post this little number in the Dear Abby thread.


Post 137:

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/dear-chemgirl-abby.1595383/page-6#post-98149914

You left a lot of details out of the story. You’re happy to paint yourself as a victim who has since reclaimed herself after someone wronged you. I’ve never posted a thing to you until this thread in reference to this ordeal. You’ve posted numerous things about it and I haven’t said boo. I’ve given you space to heal and all that, but I’m a bit tired of the remarks. This one just painted such an unfair pic. So, above are the details.

In fairness, if there’s anything I posted that wasn’t 100% truthful, let me know and I’ll redact it or add it to the story.

Sincerely,

Deep Sea Angler Fish
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I thought you'd already finished your doctorate, or is this dissertation a draft for your next PhD in how to be a supreme douche? Did you get it out of your system? Do you feel better now?

I'll not bullet point the key details you left out, no point or need to do so. As they say, there are three sides to every story: his, hers and the truth.

I should thank you for the ego boost though, as my inbox is now full of people who previously didn't know who you were saying "seriously, that's the guy you were hung up on!" Despite my responses in the threads that you apparently took personally, very few knew who they were about.

I'll leave you now, hopefully your handmaidens will come comfort and reassure their dear Lord Pmann that he's the most special boi on Lit.

Amanda330 said:
I'm actually disappointed. I thought better of you than this.
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Me too, I thought I knew him better, but as with all of it, I was wrong.
 
If you’d like me to delete, I will. Someone messaged and asked to delete (not Tig).


Amanda330 said:
I feel like this was very unnecessary. Tig didn't share specifics about your relationship in any of her posts - and this is such a breach of her trust, in my opinion. Whether or not things worked out for various reasons. I should not know these details and whether or not there are two perspectives I cannot believe you would share these intimate details with all of lit.

I'm actually disappointed. I thought better of you than this.
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That’s fair. I am certain it is shocking to read.
 
LadyLascivious1 said:
This is the first time I’ve ever wished to be a mod so that I could edit some posts and lock a thread for the benefit of all involved.

I’m going to go search for a DeLorean…
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The real ones can't actually time travel. I don't know if you knew that.

:p
 
I'm just struggling with what the motivation was here. If you felt called out you could have addressed things privately. If you were trying to get out in front of damage to your reputation... well... *golf clap*. Well done.

It feels to me like the only reason to do things this way is to deliberately cause harm.

And that's a douche-ier than typical move even for one of Lit's epic douche-canoes.


NRJLIVES4ever said:
The real ones can't actually time travel. I don't know if you knew that.

:p
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*Pfft* Clearly somebody has never slipped in the bathroom and invented the flux capacitor.
 
Let me play devil's advocate. It's no secret Pmann and I often butt heads. But..

If it were a woman setting things straight, would you be upset?

When showmeyoursmile was going around whinging about me and saying I was hateful and mean, I had to set it straight a few times that he was complaining because I said I wasn't interested. No one said anything about that.

Sure, it didn't dive as deep,because there wasn't much conversation except "not interested".

But, what about that one thread with that guy who had set-up the Bro Thread, when an alt (made to remain anonymous) called him out for being a player and other things. We all watched. No one really was upset with her, just the fact she was anonymous.

So, is this a double standard? Is it because you know this person personally? I'm not looking for answers, I just want quiet reflection. I'm leaving this thread and taking it off my watch list. Curating my experience.
 
barefootgirl69 said:
Let me play devil's advocate. It's no secret Pmann and I often butt heads. But..

If it were a woman setting things straight, would you be upset?

When showmeyoursmile was going around whinging about me and saying I was hateful and mean, I had to set it straight a few times that he was complaining because I said I wasn't interested. No one said anything about that.

Sure, it didn't dive as deep,because there wasn't much conversation except "not interested".

But, what about that one thread with that guy who had set-up the Bro Thread, when an alt (made to remain anonymous) called him out for being a player and other things. We all watched. No one really was upset with her, just the fact she was anonymous.

So, is this a double standard? Is it because you know this person personally? I'm not looking for answers, I just want quiet reflection. I'm leaving this thread and taking it off my watch list. Curating my experience.
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It’s better to be on his lap, anyway. *nods
 
barefootgirl69 said:
Let me play devil's advocate. It's no secret Pmann and I often butt heads. But..

If it were a woman setting things straight, would you be upset?

When showmeyoursmile was going around whinging about me and saying I was hateful and mean, I had to set it straight a few times that he was complaining because I said I wasn't interested. No one said anything about that.

Sure, it didn't dive as deep,because there wasn't much conversation except "not interested".

But, what about that one thread with that guy who had set-up the Bro Thread, when an alt (made to remain anonymous) called him out for being a player and other things. We all watched. No one really was upset with her, just the fact she was anonymous.

So, is this a double standard? Is it because you know this person personally? I'm not looking for answers, I just want quiet reflection. I'm leaving this thread and taking it off my watch list. Curating my experience.
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Apples and oranges. These situations were not at all similar. Someone attempted damage control by airing the only dirty laundry he had of a relationship that went on for months.
Airing personal details of off-board activity is and has been taboo forever. There is no gray here. Only wrong. You know better.
 
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