SCOTUS watch thread: Trump immunity, Capitol riot defendants, abortion, censorship

[jaF0]

I'm not seeing where any of the charges have been dismissed. Only that further hoops need to be jumped through. Basically the same as the Obstruction of Official Proceedings Charge thing.

 

[HisArpy]

Saying “this is your OPINION” followed by several options of your own is such a harpy thing to do.

Karma is oh so satisfying when it delivers a well deserved butt kicking to those who need it.

You guys got played. You got played by a false political narrative through a compliant media which spread that false narrative. Now that it's been exposed there's no one to blame except yourselves.

My other "options," which I read as "opinions," are the result of analysis of the decision. It's what I do.

I also point out that, while I'm not infallible, I tend to be correct on this kind of stuff more often than not. So trying to diss me because you don't like the way reality just bit you, is nothing more than sour grapes.

FWIW, I think we should all be happy that the issue has been decided and we all now KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that immunity exists as either absolute or presumptive immunity.

 

[RoryN]

[some garbage]

You're now on the hook to join my wager. Do it, or the wager is dead.

Your cowardice will have consequences. Choose wisely.

 

[HisArpy]

I'm not seeing where any of the charges have been dismissed. Only that further hoops need to be jumped through. Basically the same as the Obstruction of Official Proceedings Charge thing.

It'll take a bit for the lower courts to do that but Cannon will be dismissing the Florida case, the Georgia case and the DC case will go bye bye too. Probably within 2 months it'll all be over.

I think Smith will then appeal the dismissal of those charges which he will claim are "unofficial" but he's got a tough road ahead of him on that. The SCOTUS said that he's going to need more than mere allegations or opinions that the acts weren't part of the official duties.

 

[ExxWhyZee]

When Trump is Pres

He should send all his enemies to GITMO

 

[ll74]

Dictator for a day is now probable.

But hey...Biden can do whatever the fuck he wants and then just resign without issues as well.

Fun times.

 

[SmokingFap]

When Trump is Pres

He should send all his enemies to GITMO

I think Biden should send Seal Team Six after the motherfucker right now. To defend the United States and the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Oddly, this ruling is in conflict with the Chevron ruling.

The court recently ruled that regulatory agencies cannot interpret legislation in order to enforce it.

This ruling says the President can order the regulatory agencies to do whatever he wants. If a court rules that the agency actions were outside the law, the President can tell the court to fuck off because he’s immune from judicial oversight.

The Doofus Court strikes again.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Karma is oh so satisfying when it delivers a well deserved butt kicking to those who need it.

You guys got played. You got played by a false political narrative through a compliant media which spread that false narrative. Now that it's been exposed there's no one to blame except yourselves.

My other "options," which I read as "opinions," are the result of analysis of the decision. It's what I do.

I also point out that, while I'm not infallible, I tend to be correct on this kind of stuff more often than not. So trying to diss me because you don't like the way reality just bit you, is nothing more than sour grapes.

FWIW, I think we should all be happy that the issue has been decided and we all now KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that immunity exists as either absolute or presumptive immunity.

lol

 

[SmokingFap]

Karma is oh so satisfying when it delivers a well deserved butt kicking to those who need it.

You guys got played. You got played by a false political narrative through a compliant media which spread that false narrative. Now that it's been exposed there's no one to blame except yourselves.

My other "options," which I read as "opinions," are the result of analysis of the decision. It's what I do.

I also point out that, while I'm not infallible, I tend to be correct on this kind of stuff more often than not. So trying to diss me because you don't like the way reality just bit you, is nothing more than sour grapes.

FWIW, I think we should all be happy that the issue has been decided and we all now KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that immunity exists as either absolute or presumptive immunity.

Biden needs to take Ol' Babydoll Hands out ASAP, now that Joe is as immune as Trump is from prosecution.

 

[Pad_Foot]

For fuck's sake...yikes.

Is this now the official moment when our democracy jumped the shark?

Jumped the shark right onto huge submerged powerful battery!

And note all six of those judges doing the waterski jump together looked dumber than The Fonz when he did it!

 

[SmokingFap]

Biden needs to take Ol' Babydoll Hands out ASAP, now that Joe is as immune as Trump is from prosecution.

I think Biden needs to send the Seals to visit some Supremes' houses, as well.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Oddly, this ruling is in conflict with the Chevron ruling.

The court recently ruled that regulatory agencies cannot interpret legislation in order to enforce it.

This ruling says the President can order the regulatory agencies to do whatever he wants. If a court rules that the agency actions were outside the law, the President can tell the court to fuck off because he’s immune from judicial oversight.

The Doofus Court strikes again.

That’s not what the ruling says.

 

[MajorRewrite]

That’s not what the ruling says.

Sure it does. You just haven’t taken it to its logical conclusion.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It'll take a bit for the lower courts to do that but Cannon will be dismissing the Florida case, the Georgia case and the DC case will go bye bye too. Probably within 2 months it'll all be over.

I think Smith will then appeal the dismissal of those charges which he will claim are "unofficial" but he's got a tough road ahead of him on that. The SCOTUS said that he's going to need more than mere allegations or opinions that the acts weren't part of the official duties.

My reading of Robert’s opinion is that the prosecution will have a tough time substantiating that Trump’s acts were outside the scope of his official duties. Motive cannot be a consideration and the burden is on the prosecutor. I’m not sure the case will be dismissed but it definitely looks to be on life support.

 

[jaF0]

Oddly, this ruling is in conflict with the Chevron ruling.

The court recently ruled that regulatory agencies cannot interpret legislation in order to enforce it.

This ruling says the President can order the regulatory agencies to do whatever he wants. If a court rules that the agency actions were outside the law, the President can tell the court to fuck off because he’s immune from judicial oversight.

The Doofus Court strikes again.

Wowsers, wouldn't that ruffle Clarence's feathers?

 

[HisArpy]

My reading of Robert’s opinion is that the prosecution will have a tough time substantiating that Trump’s acts were outside the scope of his official duties. Motive cannot be a consideration and the burden is on the prosecutor. I’m not sure the case will be dismissed but it definitely looks to be on life support.

Fun fact: I'm not sure the decision is going to apply to the co-defendants.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Wowsers, wouldn't that ruffle Clarence's feathers?

Thomas doesn’t give a crap about anything but getting paid. This judicial shit cuts into his vacation time.

 

[coati]

The right-wing majority is simply following instructions from The Federalist Society. The right-wing majority are political hacks who take orders from the organization that got most of them their nominations. This was also the case with overturning Roe v Wade, which was the highest priority of the Federalist Society.

This particular ruling is a delay tactic. The lower court already ruled that Trump's actions were NOT part of his "official duties". Pence did his official duties when he certified the election. Trump stepped outside his official duties when he told a mob that Pence should not follow through on those official duties.

As someone else has pointed out, Trump calling the Georgia Secretary of State to "find more votes" for himself was not part of Trump's official duties.

Retaining classified documents after being voted out of office is not part of official duties. It is a violation of official duties, and Trump refused to relinquish those documents until forced to do so.

The political hacks who control the Supreme Court needlessly delayed action on all three of these cases until after the election.

 

[ll74]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807826105803440344

Can't wait to hear their analysis.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Taking classified docs home and not handing them over ?? Not his Presidential Duty.

But due to or previliously unknown two tier system of justice, that’s never gonna be tried either.

 

[butters]

"We conclude that under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of presidential power requires that former president have some immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts during his tenure in office," Roberts wrote.

"At least with respect to the president's exercise of his core constitutional powers, this immunity must be absolute. As for his remaining official actions, he is also entitled to immunity," Roberts added.

The court analyzed four categories of conduct contained in Trump's indictment: his discussions with Justice Department officials following the 2020 election, his alleged pressure on then-Vice President Mike Pence to block certification of Biden's election win, his alleged role in assembling fake pro-Trump electors and his conduct related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The court found Trump was absolutely immune for conversations with Justice Department officials but returned the case to lower courts to determine whether Trump has immunity for the other three categories.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...p&cvid=cc146dae41574fdbbfb5a90a50e71188&ei=34

 

[adrina]

B-b-but it's not in the constitution.

Fuck these hypocrites.

 

[Chobham]

Horseshit. If the ruling had benefitted a former Dem President in the same spot, you'd be filling your diaper right now.



You sound very confident of this.

Why don't you join the wager, then?

(We know why you won't.)

Really? Let's talk about Obama ordering the murder of a US citizen without due process.

 

[RoryN]

Really? Let's talk about Obama ordering the murder of a US citizen without due process.

This is gonna be good.

Okay - I'll entertain your dementia for a bit. Explain, with real evidence.