Monday, April 15th: First Ever Criminal Trial for a Former US President

[Rightguide]

It's impossible to debate or refute anything from someone who simply has lost touch with or refuses to acknowledge reality. It's like trying to feed a corpse.

Keep crying.

Translation: It's impossible to debate someone who has superior knowledge I can't refute, so all I have left are my angry delusions.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

A jury whose livelihoods has probably depended on the Biden family for decades. Hunter gets tried by his peers and Trump gets tried by his enemies.

Probably? So you don’t know for certain.

Why would Trump and his attorneys pick jurors who were on Biden’s payroll??

 

[SmokingFap]

This is the Politics Thread, not the Mare Barn where you do your chatting. Those facilities are designed specifically for the purpose of housing and managing the breeding process of mares, and are often equipped with specialized amenities and facilities to support breeding activities one can't find here. So maybe you should move along and take your nags with you. Rob may be able to help you find your way.

All those fancy words and archaic usage in the pathetic attempt at an insult.

Keep crying, bitch.

 

[SmokingFap]

Translation: It's impossible to debate someone who has superior knowledge I can't refute, so all I have left are my angry delusions.

Just keep jerking off while you're smelling your own farts, worm.

 

[Rightguide]

Just keep jerking off while you're smelling your own farts, worm.

Typical low IQ response from an angry middle-aged termagant amid the frustrations of hormonal change.

 

[Rightguide]

Independents favor Trump by 12 points despite guilty verdict: I&I/TIPP poll​

Trump leads Biden 38 to 26 percent among independent voters.

Thomas Stevenson
Jun 3, 2024

Donald Trump is leading incumbent President Joe Biden among independent voters in a new poll released after his guilty verdict on Thursday. The results come after millions in donations came pouring in after he was convicted, in what many saw as a political court decision.

According to a recent poll from Issue and Insights/TIPP, Trump has made gains against Biden in the court of public opinion despite being found guilty in the NYC falsified documents case. Among independent voters, Trump leads Biden with 38 to 26 polls going into June. The national poll was conducted between May 29 and 31 of 1,675 registered voters with a margin of error of 2.5 percent and the verdict, issued on May 30, did not seem to weaken his support.

More here: https://thepostmillennial.com/indep...ilty-verdict-i-i-tipp-poll?utm_campaign=64487

The Left's lawfare needs new generals.

 

[SmokingFap]

Typical low IQ response from an angry middle-aged termagant amid the frustrations of hormonal change.

Another limp-dick insult with some fancy words to try to seem intelligent. You're so pathetic. And that stupid emoji is just ridiculous. What, are you still in 8th grade?

 

[Bn2f]

That's funny. You do know that the "deep state" merely consists of the career civil servants and unelected bureaucrats who, many times, have served under several different presidents, both Republican and Democrat. Biden didn't fire everyone in the executive branch when he took office, and replace them sycophants. The vast majority of them, including most of the department leadership, are holdovers from Trump's administration, and probably Obama's, as well, maybe back to W's crew.

There is, indeed, a so-called Deep State, as you all characterize it. It's just that it's pretty much the same from administration to administration.

“With a nearly 1,000-page “Project 2025” handbook and an “army” of Americans, the idea is to have the civic infrastructure in place on Day One to commandeer, reshape and do away with what Republicans deride as the “deep state” bureaucracy, in part by firing as many as 50,000 federal workers.”

As soon as we can get trump back into office this will streamline the government of dead weight and decrease the budget. Winning!

You and your commie lib friends here better enjoy your immoral sex here on this Hellhole site because led by a now righteous and faithful to a monogamous marriage trump - we’re coming for your porn next!

“Project 2025 proposes criminalizing pornography, removing protections against discrimination based on sexual or gender identity, and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion programs, as well as affirmative action.”

 

[Rightguide]

Another limp-dick insult with some fancy words to try to seem intelligent. You're so pathetic. And that stupid emoji is just ridiculous. What, are you still in 8th grade?

Typical response from a humorless undereducated leftist forced to find a dictionary to understand every post. You should thank me for furthering your education.

 

[Bray123]

This is the Politics Thread, not the Mare Barn where you do your chatting. Those facilities are designed specifically for the purpose of housing and managing the breeding process of mares, and are often equipped with specialized amenities and facilities to support breeding activities one can't find here. So maybe you should move along and take your nags with you. Rob may be able to help you find your way.

What's the phrase I'm thinking of?

Oh yes, I have it now. Fuck your feelings.

 

[SmokingFap]

The irony is sweet and delicious.

 

[SmokingFap]

Typical response from a humorless undereducated leftist forced to find a dictionary to understand every post. You should thank me for furthering your education.

I can only thank you for making me puke up my breakfast.

 

[AlexBailey]

What law? The law your ideology discarded when they convicted him of "felonious bookkeeping"?

And you know all about them slippery little weasels who do despicable things behind your back. Intimately.

The law. You know, the law that judges are sworn to uphold?

Do you deny that the existing New York law used in the case is valid?

Do you deny that the statute of limitations could have been legally extended?


Are you fantasizing about buggaring me? Sorry, I’m not into stupid little puds like you.

 

[AlexBailey]

I find filing charges 20-25 years after the alleged crime was committed very suspicious. I read the transcript of the trial and under normal circumstances, pressing charges WITHIN a reasonable timeframe supported by a police report I would agree that Carroll had a compelling case for filing criminal charges, but that didn't happen.
This trial played on the emotions of the jury. Another ASA case allowing allegations (charges) that outran the statutes of limitations once again resurrect from the dead tried in a hostile NY venue. If Trump actually committed these crime I would totally agree throw his ass in prison. Just my opinion.

Again you’re dipshitting around, ignoring facts and making up your own. Fucking the porn star was not illegal. That was not the crime.

The crime was committed while Trump was president when he falsified business records to cover up what he did to influence the election.

Get you facts from something other than right wing media and you might actually understand the reality of the situation.

 

[SmokingFap]

Again you’re dipshitting around, ignoring facts and making up your own. Fucking the porn star was not illegal. That was not the crime.

The crime was committed while Trump was president when he falsified business records to cover up what he did to influence the election.

Get you facts from something other than right wing media and you might actually understand the reality of the situation.

No. He won't. On purpose.

 

[AlexBailey]

Independents favor Trump by 12 points despite guilty verdict: I&I/TIPP poll​

Trump leads Biden 38 to 26 percent among independent voters.

Thomas Stevenson
Jun 3, 2024

Donald Trump is leading incumbent President Joe Biden among independent voters in a new poll released after his guilty verdict on Thursday. The results come after millions in donations came pouring in after he was convicted, in what many saw as a political court decision.

According to a recent poll from Issue and Insights/TIPP, Trump has made gains against Biden in the court of public opinion despite being found guilty in the NYC falsified documents case. Among independent voters, Trump leads Biden with 38 to 26 polls going into June. The national poll was conducted between May 29 and 31 of 1,675 registered voters with a margin of error of 2.5 percent and the verdict, issued on May 30, did not seem to weaken his support.

More here: https://thepostmillennial.com/indep...ilty-verdict-i-i-tipp-poll?utm_campaign=64487

The Left's lawfare needs new generals.

Hey @Rightguide,

I just want to give you credit for one of the rare occasions where you cite a source that isn’t complete garbage.

While The PostMelllineal has a right wing bias it isn’t pure garbage propaganda. Good job not being a total douche for once.


The Post Mellineal:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-post-millennial/

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[SmokingFap]

This crazy grifter bitch sounds like a more Bible-y RG or Hairpie.

 

[Rightguide]

Hey @Rightguide,

I just want to give you credit for one of the rare occasions where you cite a source that isn’t complete garbage.

While The PostMelllineal has a right wing bias it isn’t pure garbage propaganda. Good job not being a total douche for once.


The Post Mellineal:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-post-millennial/

RIGHT BIAS​

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.

• Overall, we rate The Post Millennial Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed in reporting due to publishing unsubstantiated claims and having several failed fact checks.

---

Detailed Report​

Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: Canada
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: EXCELLENT
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

Your source is a recognized left-wing weighted source.

 

[AlexBailey]

Your source is a recognized left-wing weighted source.

They call out left wing bias too. You just think they’re unfair because your preferred sources are largely fabrications and spin. You try to call lies fact, just like Icant has been doing about the hush money trial and get called on it so you cry that it’s bias.

 

[HisArpy]

The law. You know, the law that judges are sworn to uphold?

Do you deny that the existing New York law used in the case is valid?

Do you deny that the statute of limitations could have been legally extended?


Are you fantasizing about buggaring me? Sorry, I’m not into stupid little puds like you.

You're such a simpleton.

The MISDEMEANORS couldn't be prosecuted on their own because the statute of limitations had already run out. The only way those offenses could be "reactivated" was if those offenses were done to cover up a felony.

2 questions:

A. WHAT FELONY?

B. WHAT COVER UP?


A: There is no felony alleged in the indictment. There is NO EVIDENCE of a felony admitted during the trial. Further, THE LAW requires unanimity by the jurors as to EACH AND EVERY ELEMENT of the offense(s). So I ask again, what felony? Which of the 3 possible things for which there is no evidence was THE felony? AND, did the jurors have a unanimous verdict as to which of the 3? AND, how come the judge told the jurors they didn't have to agree unanimously?

Don't those things sort of point to mistakes?

B: Without the attaching felony, there's no cover up. An NDA isn't illegal. Paying for one isn't illegal either. Alleging that the payments should have been recorded as campaign contribution is the misdemeanor offense, not the felony itself. You cannot bootstrap the misdemeanor "wrongful bookkeeping entries' into a felony by re alleging them as an "improper bookkeeping entry" to make it a felony. It's the same offense.

There is NO EVIDENCE which was admitted at trial, or in the indictment, that the bookkeeping entries should have been recorded as campaign contributions. Nor was there any evidence that the NDA is an "in kind" campaign expense.

Without the attaching felony, the verdicts cannot have been unanimous as to EACH AND EVERY element. The jurors had to bring their own thoughts and beliefs into the deliberation and ADD THOSE THINGS to the evidence.

Don't you think that the jurors were supposed to decide based ONLY ON the evidence they were presented? You know, like they were instructed.


Again, you're such a simpleton that you're promoting the verdict as untouchable merely because it's a verdict. That's not the way things work. As you will discover after the appeals court reviews the case.

Speaking of which, I learned the other day that NY has a unique standard when it comes to appeals. Their appellate courts can review not only the law and look for reversible error (of which there are many in this case) but they can also look at the evidence presented and draw their own conclusions from it to reverse a jury's findings.

Basically they can overrule a jury on the facts as well as the law. This isn't the case in most jurisdictions.

 

[Rightguide]

They call out left wing bias too. You just think they’re unfair because your preferred sources are largely fabrications and spin. You try to call lies fact and get called on it so you cry that it’s bias.

When you point out specific incorrect facts in the sources I post. I will give a shit and honestly reexamine them.

 

[Rightguide]

You're such a simpleton.

The MISDEMEANORS couldn't be prosecuted on their own because the statute of limitations had already run out. The only way those offenses could be "reactivated" was if those offenses were done to cover up a felony.

2 questions:

A. WHAT FELONY?

B. WHAT COVER UP?


A: There is no felony alleged in the indictment. There is NO EVIDENCE of a felony admitted during the trial. Further, THE LAW requires unanimity by the jurors as to EACH AND EVERY ELEMENT of the offense(s). So I ask again, what felony? Which of the 3 possible things for which there is no evidence was THE felony? AND, did the jurors have a unanimous verdict as to which of the 3? AND, how come the judge told the jurors they didn't have to agree unanimously?

Don't those things sort of point to mistakes?

B: Without the attaching felony, there's no cover up. An NDA isn't illegal. Paying for one isn't illegal either. Alleging that the payments should have been recorded as campaign contribution is the misdemeanor offense, not the felony itself. You cannot bootstrap the misdemeanor "wrongful bookkeeping entries' into a felony by re alleging them as an "improper bookkeeping entry" to make it a felony. It's the same offense.

There is NO EVIDENCE which was admitted at trial, or in the indictment, that the bookkeeping entries should have been recorded as campaign contributions. Nor was there any evidence that the NDA is an "in kind" campaign expense.

Without the attaching felony, the verdicts cannot have been unanimous as to EACH AND EVERY element. The jurors had to bring their own thoughts and beliefs into the deliberation and ADD THOSE THINGS to the evidence.

Don't you think that the jurors were supposed to decide based ONLY ON the evidence they were presented? You know, like they were instructed.


Again, you're such a simpleton that you're promoting the verdict as untouchable merely because it's a verdict. That's not the way things work. As you will discover after the appeals court reviews the case.

Speaking of which, I learned the other day that NY has a unique standard when it comes to appeals. Their appellate courts can review not only the law and look for reversible error (of which there are many in this case) but they can also look at the evidence presented and draw their own conclusions from it to reverse a jury's findings.

Basically they can overrule a jury on the facts as well as the law. This isn't the case in most jurisdictions.

He's so far lost in his fabrications he isn't capable of seeing what's happening.

 

[AlexBailey]

You're such a simpleton.

The MISDEMEANORS couldn't be prosecuted on their own because the statute of limitations had already run out. The only way those offenses could be "reactivated" was if those offenses were done to cover up a felony.

2 questions:

A. WHAT FELONY?

B. WHAT COVER UP?


A: There is no felony alleged in the indictment. There is NO EVIDENCE of a felony admitted during the trial. Further, THE LAW requires unanimity by the jurors as to EACH AND EVERY ELEMENT of the offense(s). So I ask again, what felony? Which of the 3 possible things for which there is no evidence was THE felony? AND, did the jurors have a unanimous verdict as to which of the 3? AND, how come the judge told the jurors they didn't have to agree unanimously?

Don't those things sort of point to mistakes?

B: Without the attaching felony, there's no cover up. An NDA isn't illegal. Paying for one isn't illegal either. Alleging that the payments should have been recorded as campaign contribution is the misdemeanor offense, not the felony itself. You cannot bootstrap the misdemeanor "wrongful bookkeeping entries' into a felony by re alleging them as an "improper bookkeeping entry" to make it a felony. It's the same offense.

There is NO EVIDENCE which was admitted at trial, or in the indictment, that the bookkeeping entries should have been recorded as campaign contributions. Nor was there any evidence that the NDA is an "in kind" campaign expense.

Without the attaching felony, the verdicts cannot have been unanimous as to EACH AND EVERY element. The jurors had to bring their own thoughts and beliefs into the deliberation and ADD THOSE THINGS to the evidence.

Don't you think that the jurors were supposed to decide based ONLY ON the evidence they were presented? You know, like they were instructed.


Again, you're such a simpleton that you're promoting the verdict as untouchable merely because it's a verdict. That's not the way things work. As you will discover after the appeals court reviews the case.

Speaking of which, I learned the other day that NY has a unique standard when it comes to appeals. Their appellate courts can review not only the law and look for reversible error (of which there are many in this case) but they can also look at the evidence presented and draw their own conclusions from it to reverse a jury's findings.

Basically they can overrule a jury on the facts as well as the law. This isn't the case in most jurisdictions.

You absolute dumbfuck. I’ve already posted the letter of the New York law in response to your bullshit.

The law cited in the indictment includes what elevates it to a felony. You just ignore it because you’re an asshat.

Again for tor your stupid ass mind to try to absorb:

Ҥ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.

A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.”

 

[HisArpy]

He's so far lost in his fabrications he isn't capable of seeing what's happening.

He thinks the 'crimes' were committed while Trump was President instead of during the summer/fall before the election.

It's really amazing how often the Left turns their fantasizing into purported facts which truth can't shake.

 

[AlexBailey]

He's so far lost in his fabrications he isn't capable of seeing what's happening.

I didn’t fabricate the indictment.