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icanhelp1 said:
The jury convicted, but constitutional law of *due process* was contorted and violated.

That is the most delusional justification of a flawed trial by jury ever. This trial has zero precedence. Even New York attorneys at all levels mumble under their breath this Frankenstein case could turn on its creator.

Thanks for proving my point.

Have a good night!
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Which NY attorneys?
 
icanhelp1 said:
The jury convicted, but constitutional law of *due process* was contorted and violated.

That is the most delusional justification of a flawed trial by jury ever. This trial has zero precedence. Even New York attorneys at all levels mumble under their breath this Frankenstein case could turn on its creator.

Thanks for proving my point.

Have a good night!
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You're just babbling words. There is no actual content there. You are a fucking moron.
 
icanhelp1 said:
Trumps conviction is not the most concerning. Reading your post and many like yours your jubilance is symptomatic of a cancer permeating throughout the democratic party. New York Leftwing lawfare is not representative of our judicial system, unfortunately the flawed results will have a direct impact on our nation's election results.

You call yourself patriots but are willing to trash the constitutional right to due process as long as you win, SAD state of affairs. Your vision of justice is as flawed as the trial itself. Your hatred for Trump, in your mind, makes all trial results justified even if constitutional law was bastardized on the way to your vaunted conviction. I could list all the irregularities and improprieties starting with the grand jury to the judges final instructions to the jury but that would be a waste of time.

You have to ask yourself, trying to be objective of course, how does book keeping errors interfere with a national election. How does this book keeping charge ( 34 felony charges ) bootstrapped to a frivolous campaign finance charge remotely affect a national election more severely than Hillary Clinton's/DNC's Steele dossier promoting Russian/Trump conspiracy to rig an election.

How does an admission to grand larceny ( $60,000 ) during cross examination, which according to N Y Penal law 155.40 is a second degree felony, more sever than Trumps conviction of a class E felony ( lowest class felony ) where Trump gets bagged and Cohen walks.
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Cry me a river, MAGAt.
 
The biggest problem that Trump now has?
As a convicted felon he's banned from travelling to Kenya to search for Obama's birth certificate. Because they have standards over there.

On the other hand, because he won the Presidency by fraud he was never a legitimate President in the first place. So everyone can quit calling him 'President Trump' right now. But that clears him to start from fresh, campaigning for two legitimate terms.
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
It’s a good thing he’s not going to go on TV and around the country giving speeches talking smack about the judge and his family. 😀
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It's a good thing he hasn't been on national TV and confessed to felonies and then bragged about them virtually every day since he awkwardly slid down that escalator and announced his original candidacy for the presidency.
 
BrightShinyGirl said:
Donald Trump was convicted of 34 counts of falsifying business records, which is a felony in New York.
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Actually, it's only a misdemeanor. A misdemeanor for which the statute of limitation had expired. Bragg used an obscure law to bootstrap (there's that word again) the expired misdemeanors into a felony. He did that because the statute of limitations hadn't run on the felony.

Unfortunately, the required underlying felony wasn't ever alleged in the indictment. Nor was there any evidence of the underlying felony introduced in court.

Basically Trump was convicted of 34 counts of a misdemeanor accounting violation. Except the misdemeanors were committed outside the time limits of the law and had there not been an alleged felony attached to them this trial wouldn't have happened to begin with.

But remember, no matter what, you finally got him. For now anyway.
 
HisArpy said:
Actually, it's only a misdemeanor. A misdemeanor for which the statute of limitation had expired. Bragg used an obscure law to bootstrap (there's that word again) the expired misdemeanors into a felony. He did that because the statute of limitations hadn't run on the felony.

Unfortunately, the required underlying felony wasn't ever alleged in the indictment. Nor was there any evidence of the underlying felony introduced in court.

Basically Trump was convicted of 34 counts of a misdemeanor accounting violation. Except the misdemeanors were committed outside the time limits of the law and had there not been an alleged felony attached to them this trial wouldn't have happened to begin with.

But remember, no matter what, you finally got him. For now anyway.
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So your argument is that Trump 100% did something illegal to cheat in the 2016 election, but shouldn’t be held accountable?
 
HisArpy said:
Actually, it's only a misdemeanor. A misdemeanor for which the statute of limitation had expired. Bragg used an obscure law to bootstrap (there's that word again) the expired misdemeanors into a felony. He did that because the statute of limitations hadn't run on the felony.

Unfortunately, the required underlying felony wasn't ever alleged in the indictment. Nor was there any evidence of the underlying felony introduced in court.

Basically Trump was convicted of 34 counts of a misdemeanor accounting violation. Except the misdemeanors were committed outside the time limits of the law and had there not been an alleged felony attached to them this trial wouldn't have happened to begin with.

But remember, no matter what, you finally got him. For now anyway.
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Unfortunately for him, a felony was indeed attached.
Well that sucks.
 
It bears repeating; every single one of those jurors convicted. Even the one who admitted getting all their 'news' from Truth Social.

Any one of them could have guaranteed their place in MAGA history books, with fame and fortune from selling books, Faux Entertainment interviews etc if they'd hung the jury. But instead, they all chose duty and honor knowing that the clown show will now descend on their homes & families. Trump will ensure that their identities will be revealed and he will lie about it.
 
HisArpy said:
Actually, it's only a misdemeanor. A misdemeanor for which the statute of limitation had expired. Bragg used an obscure law to bootstrap (there's that word again) the expired misdemeanors into a felony. He did that because the statute of limitations hadn't run on the felony.

Unfortunately, the required underlying felony wasn't ever alleged in the indictment. Nor was there any evidence of the underlying felony introduced in court.

Basically Trump was convicted of 34 counts of a misdemeanor accounting violation. Except the misdemeanors were committed outside the time limits of the law and had there not been an alleged felony attached to them this trial wouldn't have happened to begin with.

But remember, no matter what, you finally got him. For now anyway.
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The statute of limitations had been extended for two reasons: Trump was out of state for the duration, and Governor Cuomo had extended it during Covid.✅

The language of the law cited in the indictment for falsifying of business records includes the condition that elevates it to a felony, it was included in the indictment. ✅

Ҥ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.

A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.”


So counselor, serious question for you:

Since this is a NY state conviction, what steps does the appeal need to go through before it is elevated to the Federal Supreme Court?
 
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