Monday, April 15th: First Ever Criminal Trial for a Former US President

[DeluxAuto]

So who got silenced?

me...on all these topics. plus #911

 

[Lazaran]

Thanks for the chuckle idiot traitor. I don't read most of what you write. It's painfully stupid.

You still haven't addressed the real issues with HR2 and how they compared with the bipartisan senate bill the Border Patrol supported and that Trump had killed.

I would also submit, that the radical right wing rejection of the Senate immigration reform and border security bill is another example of the similarities between the far right radicals and the far left radicals:

NO progress, or even exacerbating a problem, is better than SOME progress on solving a problem in the minds of far right wing radicals AND far left wing radicals.



JFC

SAD!!!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

me...on all these topics. plus #911

You’re still talking so you haven’t been silenced.

 

[DeluxAuto]

You’re still talking so you haven’t been silenced.

That's such a weird take. It's as dumb as those idiots saying, "Why isn't this on the MSM?!" while linking to an MSM site.

 

[dmallord]

You know this, I know this, even the TDS afflicted trolls know this.

The difference is that you and I respect the rules and they don't.

Not so. You are not alone in respecting rules and the laws of the land. You have a different view of them, that's all.

Who sent a mass mob to attack the Capitol? Who were members of that mob? Not TDS-afflicted trolls. They accepted the decision of the voters on J6 and even when Trump his first election. They respected the rule of law then and now.

Let's allow the jury to make their decision next week, and I wish you an enjoyable Memorial Day, wherever you may be. Honor the fallen. Mark and remember why they died. Though Trump questions why they did and couldn't fathom why one would give his life for his country–not benefiting from it.

I mark those days each and everyone of them, knowing full well that men chose country above their own wellbeing so that those who follow may have life, liberty and the pursuit peace in their time.

God Bless America - even bless the dipshit trying to screw our country.

 

[icanhelp1]

Not so. You are not alone in respecting rules and the laws of the land. You have a different view of them, that's all.

Who sent a mass mob to attack the Capitol? Who were members of that mob? Not TDS-afflicted trolls. They accepted the decision of the voters on J6 and even when Trump his first election. They respected the rule of law then and now.

Let's allow the jury to make their decision next week, and I wish you an enjoyable Memorial Day, wherever you may be. Honor the fallen. Mark and remember why they died. Though Trump questions why they did and couldn't fathom why one would give his life for his country–not benefiting from it.

I mark those days each and everyone of them, knowing full well that men chose country above their own wellbeing so that those who follow may have life, liberty and the pursuit peace in their time.

God Bless America - even bless the dipshit trying to screw our country.

 

[JohnEngelman]

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stated on November 4, 2018 in a Facebook post:
Says George Patton said, “Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lower form of politicians.”
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By Ciara O'RourkeDecember 4, 2020

No evidence Patton said this about liberal Democrats​

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT​

• We could find no original source corroborating this attribution.
  
• The Virginia Military Institute Archives and the author of a book about Patton said it’s unlikely he said this.

See the sources for this fact-check
Amid some conservative outrage over the results of the presidential election, an old social media post is gaining traction.
A photo shows Gen. George Patton standing in uniform, and overlaid is this quote attributed to the military leader: "Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lower form of politicians."
This post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
Snopes, which previously looked into this attribution, found that it appeared in the 1983 book "The Unknown Patton" by Charles Province.
But the quote doesn’t have a citation in the book, which advises in its introduction that "while not all source material was taken literally into quotations or even utilized as pure textual content, they were used rather as background data to supply a feeling or understanding of a situation prior to writing about it."
"Politicians are the lowest form of life" appeared unattributed to Patton in a 1948 book by Stuart Chase called "The Proper Study of Mankind."
And in 1945, Harry Truman wrote in his diary that a man "was noted [as] an advanced ‘Liberal’ but not a professional one (I consider the latter the lowest form of politician)."

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Former President Donald Trump “didn’t attend the graduations” of his other children.
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By Ciara O'Rourke • April 24, 2024
We reached out to the Virginia Military Institute Archives about the quote. Mary Laura Kludy, the archives and records management specialist, told us that the school has no record of Patton saying it.
"It is unlikely that it would have been from him," Kludy said.
Brain Sobel, a media and governmental relations consultant who wrote the 2013 book, "The Fighting Pattons," also told us that he’s never found any original source material showing that Patton said this.
"Patton did have a general disdain for politics and politicians, but was basically ambivalent about politics," Sobel said.
We couldn’t find any original source confirming that Patton said this, and people familiar with his words suspect he did not.
If evidence emerges that the attribution is accurate, we’ll reconsider our rating.
For now, it’s False.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...evidence-patton-said-about-liberal-democrats/​

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Whenever you read a quote from a famous person that sounds like it was made by an obscure right wing crank, it is a good idea to check the statement on Google, because the quote was probably invented by an obscure right wing crank.

 

[Bn2f]

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Haha!
I’ll go ahead and grant you that Patton said this - so what? Our Democratic government is based off the belief that the military answers to its civilian government. Dmallord, a former military member, knows this. You really should be more like him and not fall into the tired stereotype of former military members being clueless about government and how they use the military. Our soldiers should be the most politically aware because their lives are directly affected. Sadly, in your case, that was not true when you served nor now.

 

[icanhelp1]

Politifact
stated on November 4, 2018 in a Facebook post:
Says George Patton said, “Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lower form of politicians.”
https://static.politifact.com/CACHE/images/politifact/rulings/meter-false/33efdb6633e5e2fdc2d4e2f63383a1e0.jpg.https://static.politifact.com/politifact/rulings/meter-false.jpg

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• VIRAL IMAGE

https://static.politifact.com/CACHE/images/politifact/staffers/Ciara_ORourke_for_web/96dd91e7783586bb6c175992e82e5eb1.jpg
By Ciara O'RourkeDecember 4, 2020

No evidence Patton said this about liberal Democrats​

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT​

• We could find no original source corroborating this attribution.
• The Virginia Military Institute Archives and the author of a book about Patton said it’s unlikely he said this.

See the sources for this fact-check
Amid some conservative outrage over the results of the presidential election, an old social media post is gaining traction.
A photo shows Gen. George Patton standing in uniform, and overlaid is this quote attributed to the military leader: "Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lower form of politicians."
This post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
Snopes, which previously looked into this attribution, found that it appeared in the 1983 book "The Unknown Patton" by Charles Province.
But the quote doesn’t have a citation in the book, which advises in its introduction that "while not all source material was taken literally into quotations or even utilized as pure textual content, they were used rather as background data to supply a feeling or understanding of a situation prior to writing about it."
"Politicians are the lowest form of life" appeared unattributed to Patton in a 1948 book by Stuart Chase called "The Proper Study of Mankind."
And in 1945, Harry Truman wrote in his diary that a man "was noted [as] an advanced ‘Liberal’ but not a professional one (I consider the latter the lowest form of politician)."

FEATURED FACT-CHECK​

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Threads posts
stated on April 19, 2024 in a Threads post
Former President Donald Trump “didn’t attend the graduations” of his other children.
https://static.politifact.com/CACHE/images/politifact/rulings/meter-false/33efdb6633e5e2fdc2d4e2f63383a1e0.jpg.https://static.politifact.com/politifact/rulings/meter-false.jpg
By Ciara O'Rourke • April 24, 2024
We reached out to the Virginia Military Institute Archives about the quote. Mary Laura Kludy, the archives and records management specialist, told us that the school has no record of Patton saying it.
"It is unlikely that it would have been from him," Kludy said.
Brain Sobel, a media and governmental relations consultant who wrote the 2013 book, "The Fighting Pattons," also told us that he’s never found any original source material showing that Patton said this.
"Patton did have a general disdain for politics and politicians, but was basically ambivalent about politics," Sobel said.
We couldn’t find any original source confirming that Patton said this, and people familiar with his words suspect he did not.
If evidence emerges that the attribution is accurate, we’ll reconsider our rating.
For now, it’s False.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...evidence-patton-said-about-liberal-democrats/​

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Whenever you read a quote from a famous person that sounds like it was made by an obscure right wing crank, it is a good idea to check the statement on Google, because the quote was probably invented by an obscure right wing crank.

I thought it a humorous quote, whether Patton quoted that tidbit is immaterial, the fact remains the words ring true!

 

[adrina]

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...tton-called-out-liberal-democrats/6509267002/

Oh look. Those pesky facts getting in the way once again. At least for those of us who function in reality.

 

[Bn2f]

I thought it a humorous quote, whether Patton quoted that tidbit is immaterial, the fact remains the words ring true!

You should sometimes stop yourself when you wrongfully think you’re ahead.

 

[icanhelp1]

Haha!
I’ll go ahead and grant you that Patton said this - so what? Our Democratic government is based off the belief that the military answers to its civilian government.

You have a definite grasp of the obvious.

Dmallord, a former military member, knows this. You really should be more like him and not fall into the tired stereotype of former military members being clueless about government and how they use the military.

I've thanked Mallord for his service.

In case you haven't noticed there are many veterans, some highly decorated, that serve in congress and other branches of federal service and have a very astute understanding of how government works.

Other than mallords hatred for Trump which equals my animus towards Biden I believe we have a lot more in common than meets the eye.

Our soldiers should be the most politically aware because their lives are directly affected. Sadly, in your case, that was not true when you served nor now.

When I was a soldier our mission wasn't to assess the political astuteness of our political leaders we didn't have time for that, we were too busy training and preparing for war. Back then proper pro-nouns were immaterial to your survival on the battle field. When you addressed a soldier it was by rank and name *Sgt. duffelbag*. You should stop pretending you understand how the military works.

I find it comical you questioning my loyalty and patriotism. I served for 32 years, what have you done?

 

[Bn2f]

You have a definite grasp of the obvious.

I've thanked Mallord for his service.

In case you haven't noticed there are many veterans, some highly decorated, that serve in congress and other branches of federal service and have a very astute understanding of how government works.

Other than mallords hatred for Trump which equals my animus towards Biden I believe we have a lot more in common than meets the eye.

When I was a soldier our mission wasn't to assess the political astuteness of our political leaders we didn't have time for that, we were too busy training and preparing for war. Back then proper pro-nouns were immaterial to your survival on the battle field. When you addressed a soldier it was by rank and name *Sgt. duffelbag*. You should stop pretending you understand how the military works.

I find it comical you questioning my loyalty and patriotism. I served for 32 years, what have you done?

I LOL’ed your Patton quote and, as I have before, demeaned yours and any other military member’s service who supports trump. IF in 2024 you and those military members you speak of don’t realize from his bone spurs to his many and well documented insults to your very service or his handling of classified material as threats - me calling you a traitor to the constitution you once swore to defend should really not bother you. Yeah, ya goddamn right I question your loyalty and patriotism and add integrity too!

 

[stxjimmy]

I thought it a humorous quote, whether Patton quoted that tidbit is immaterial, the fact remains the words ring true!

It’s not humorous and it’s not a quote, but it is indicative of your approach to discussion - why bother with any search for objectivity when a tawdry meme will do.

 

[icanhelp1]

I LOL’ed your Patton quote and, as I have before, demeaned yours and any other military member’s service who supports trump. IF in 2024 you and those military members you speak of don’t realize from his bone spurs to his many and well documented insults to your very service or his handling of classified material as threats - me calling you a traitor to the constitution you once swore to defend should really not bother you. Yeah, ya goddamn right I question your loyalty and patriotism and add integrity too!

And we defended your right to freedom of expression.

Your hatred for Trump is well noted.

Your hatred for me is also well noted.

Have a good memorial day but I question if you really know what our memorial day truly stands for. Hint, it's not just another holiday, another day off, or about hamburgers and hotdogs.

 

[icanhelp1]

It’s not humorous and it’s not a quote, but it is indicative of your approach to discussion - why bother with any with any search for objectivity when a tawdry meme will do.

I'll gladly engage in any discussions, unfortunately it always breaks down into name calling, insulting family members or strings of ad-hom remarks.

 

[Bn2f]

And we defended your right to freedom of expression.

Your hatred for Trump is well noted.

Your hatred for me is also well noted.

Have a good memorial day but I question if you really know what our memorial day truly stands for. Hint, it's not just another holiday, another day off, or about hamburgers and hotdogs.

I recall this board going over last Memorial Day ad nauseum the relevance of the holiday. I actually think it may have been the very first time that I demeaned your service.

My hatred is for people who shit on the constitution and disrespect our military. Sorry not sorry that may include gullible military people like yourself.

Everyone can see how hard it is for you to answer for trump’s military insults and bone spur lies.

 

[Bn2f]

I'll gladly engage in any discussions, unfortunately it always breaks down into name calling, insulting family members or strings of ad-hom remarks.

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/its-memorial-day-again.1588504/

Funny how scrolling through last year’s comments I don’t see any from you.

 

[icanhelp1]

I recall this board going over last Memorial Day ad nauseum the relevance of the holiday. I actually think it may have been the very first time that I demeaned your service.

My hatred is for people who shit on the constitution and disrespect our military. Sorry not sorry that may include gullible military people like yourself.

Everyone can see how hard it is for you to answer for trump’s military insults and bone spur lies.

Why don't you back up your accusations that I trash the constitution. How I disrespect our military.

 

[adrina]

And we defended your right to freedom of expression.

Your hatred for Trump is well noted.

Your hatred for me is also well noted.

Have a good memorial day but I question if you really know what our memorial day truly stands for. Hint, it's not just another holiday, another day off, or about hamburgers and hotdogs.

No you didn't.

If you had your way the only expression would be like yours.

What a pile of tripe.

You defended you. You defended what is important to you. And it isn't the constitution. You don't care about that.

 

[adrina]

Why don't you back up your accusations that I trash the constitution. How I disrespect our military.

You support Trump.

Who wants to suspend the constitution and believes he is above it. Who disrespects our military.

You support the GOP.

Who actively works to cut things like the VA and military resources.

 

[icanhelp1]

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/its-memorial-day-again.1588504/

Funny how scrolling through last year’s comments I don’t see any from you.

So, not commenting on memorial day, some how in your delusional mind, equates to me disrespecting our military, shitting on the constitution. Can you see how perverted your thought process is.

 

[adrina]

So, not commenting on memorial day, some how in your delusional mind, equates to me disrespecting our military, shitting on the constitution. Can you see how perverted your thought process is.

Nah, you do that by supporting Trump and the GOP.

 

[Bn2f]

Why don't you back up your accusations that I trash the constitution. How I disrespect our military.

What a joke you are.
Answer for a draft dodger why don’t ya?
This odd thing of conservatives seeming to enjoy this idiot insulting their professions, spouses and family is so baffling and Nikki Haley‘s endorsement from yesterday continues this embarrassing trend.

 

[icanhelp1]

You support Trump.

Who wants to suspend the constitution and believes he is above it. Who disrespects our military.

You support the GOP.

Who actively works to cut things like the VA and military resources.

Try being objective, are you better off now than 4 years ago? When celebrating memorial day just remember your boy sent sincere condolences to a mass murderer, a vile individual who is responsible for murdering hundreds of our finest, bravest soldiers.