Electric cars.

[MajorRewrite]

Actually Trump did. He gave us energy independence and Uncle Joe immediately gave the power back to people who do not like us in order to placate his base and force an energy transformation.

Fact check: US oil production is rising, not falling.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m

 

[Fuzzy1975]

No, actually we're making different points but you are incapable of seeing that.

You just want to hate on people. Something is lacking in your life.

I do feel sorry for you...

Yes, I get you don't understand the subject matter.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

You have zero understanding of chaotic systems and how markets actually work.

I doubt your comprehension of chaos theory and complex adaptive systems.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Speaking of electric power …

California Grid Renewable Energy

The state of California was powered entirely by renewable energy for over 9 hours last Saturday and 8 hours on Sunday, reports Adele Peters in Fast Company, making Sunday “the ninth straight day that solar, wind, hydropower, geothermal, and battery storage fully powered the electric grid for at least some portion of the time.” Of the last 45 days, renewable energy powered the grid entirely for at least a portion of the day on 37 days.

 

[HisArpy]

Hey Judge,

Explain, how can a person get shocked by using a 54 volt battery pack?


That was your claim. It was bullshit. You are bullshit.

dudly, even the tool companies WARN about possible electric shock hazards with tool pack batteries. Even the early ones that were 7.5 volts.

What the fuck are you smoking that you think people believe your bullshit?

 

[John_von_Neumann]

dudly, even the tool companies WARN about possible electric shock hazards with tool pack batteries. Even the early ones that were 7.5 volts.

What the fuck are you smoking that you think people believe your bullshit?

https://oztreasure.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/0/3/11031372/editor/dig.gif?1502856779

 

[AlexBailey]

dudly, even the tool companies WARN about possible electric shock hazards with tool pack batteries. Even the early ones that were 7.5 volts.

What the fuck are you smoking that you think people believe your bullshit?

Go fuck yourself again, your honor.

You know very well that’s CYA boilerplate to protect the company against scum attorneys.

Explain how it can actually happen.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

dudly, even the tool companies WARN about possible electric shock hazards with tool pack batteries. Even the early ones that were 7.5 volts.

What the fuck are you smoking that you think people believe your bullshit?

Yes, and those warning relate to the charging device, not the batteries themselves. Have you tested how well carbon based water conducts electricity yet?

 

[AlexBailey]

Yes, and those warning relate to the charging device, not the batteries themselves. Have you tested how well carbon based water conducts electricity yet?

Even more to the question of safety is the comparison of handling batteries to the safety of handling gas.

Imagine if someone proposed a new technology that required every machine to have a reservoir of fuel that was flammable, spillable, potentially explosive, toxic, and easily ignitable.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Even more to the question of safety is the comparison of handling batteries to the safety of handling gas.

Well HisArpy knows all about handling gas; the gas bag he is.

Imagine if someone proposed a new technology that required every machine to have a reservoir of fuel that was flammable, spillable, potentially explosive, toxic, and easily ignitable.

Must give him nightmares thinking about it.

 

[HisArpy]

Go fuck yourself again, your honor.

You know very well that’s CYA boilerplate to protect the company against scum attorneys.

Explain how it can actually happen.

Oh, so now you know more than OSHA and the manufacturers of the products?


Yeah, your creds just took another bad hit.

 

[AlexBailey]

Oh, so now you know more than OSHA and the manufacturers of the products?

Oh? What warnings and restrictions does OSHA put on use of 56 volt battery backpacks?


Put it up or snivel in more disgrace you failed little turd of a man.

 

[HisArpy]

Oh? What warnings and restrictions does OSHA put on 56 volt battery backpacks?


Put it up or snivel in more disgrace you failed little turd of a man.

Lol, someone is having a meltdown... a tropical meltdown...

 

[MajorRewrite]

Maybe the most pointless argument ever.

 

[AlexBailey]

Lol, someone is having a meltdown... a tropical meltdown...

You have provided zero support for your argument. I have proven my case.

You argue like a child.

 

[HisArpy]

You have provided zero support for your argument. I have proven my case.

You argue like a child.

Lol, manufacturers warnings, OSHA guidelines, and the undeniable public knowledge that you can't arc across terminals without risking electric shock kinda prove my point.

And here you are trying to tell the entire world that electricity won't kill you if you fuck around with it.

Manchild, you need to just stop before you hurt yourself.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Lol, manufacturers warnings, OSHA guidelines, and the undeniable public knowledge that you can't arc across terminals without risking electric shock kinda prove my point.

NO the warnings against shorting terminals is to prevent explosion and or fire. But you're a guy, so I doubt you have ever actually read the manual.

Maybe read up a bit on Gustav Robert Kirchoff, then you might understand how shorting out terminals with wire will not electrocute a person.

And here you are trying to tell the entire world that electricity won't kill you if you fuck around with it.

Of course electricity can kill you, but a 54 volt DC battery won't, even with a cut or hands wet with carbon water.

Manchild, you need to just stop before you hurt yourself.

And you need to stop before you hurt us....damn my diaphragm is so sore after reading your posts....

Let us introduce the newly minted Electric Carbon Water Boy!!

 

[HisArpy]

NO the warnings against shorting terminals is to prevent explosion and or fire. But you're a guy, so I doubt you have ever actually read the manual.

Maybe read up a bit on Gustav Robert Kirchoff, then you might understand how shorting out terminals with wire will not electrocute a person.

Of course electricity can kill you, but a 54 volt DC battery won't, even with a cut or hands wet with carbon water.

And you need to stop before you hurt us....damn my diaphragm is so sore after reading your posts....

Let us introduce the newly minted Electric Carbon Water Boy!!

dudly, it's NOT volts you have to worry about, it's AMPS.

A 1 million volts stun gun won't (generally) kill you because there's very little amperage in it. It's designed that way.

OTOH, 4-10 amps WILL kill you.

There are more than enough amps in a 12 volt car battery to do the job. The average car battery has 500+ cold cranking amps in it. A average battery pack has sufficient amperage too. For example, an 18v Ryobi lithium tool battery has 7 amp hours in it. That's nearly double the minimum required amperage to kill.



And of course now you want to deflect to the point that the warnings on batteries are supposedly to prevent explosion. They're not because they specifically warn against ELECTRIC SHOCK HAZARD but even if you're correct it's like you idjits believe being killed by an explosion is better than electrocution.

Honestly, you fucking turds are ridiculous.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

dudly, it's NOT volts you have to worry about, it's AMPS.

No it's not amps, it's voltage.

A 1 million volts stun gun won't (generally) kill you because there's very little amperage in it. It's designed that way.

A stun gun (Taser) isn't a million volts. It's 50,000. Why, because Ohms laws says that all the voltage you need to shock but not kill.

OTOH, 4-10 amps WILL kill you.

Actually 4-10 amps will burn you. 100 to 120 miliamps will kill you.

There are more than enough amps in a 12 volt car battery to do the job.

LMFAO...here do some reading before you further embarrass yourself....

PS Alex has already posted a picture of him crossing the polls of a 48 Kw battery bank.....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...t resistance will,the skin, and other factors.

And of course now you want to deflect to the point that the warnings on batteries are supposedly to prevent explosion. They're not because they specifically warn against ELECTRIC SHOCK HAZARD but even if you're correct it's like you idjits believe being killed by an explosion is better than electrocution.

Honestly, you fucking turds are ridiculous.

Well I gave you the opportunity to get out of this electrical discussion before. This is my final warning that you cannot claim to be punking us after we burn your ass cherry read over a subject I have a degree in, and Alex may have too...

 

[MajorRewrite]

JFC are y’all still going on about that?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

JFC are y’all still going on about that?

Arpy's got his teeth dug in.........hilarity follows....

I don't know if you have ever read a thread where Arpy meltdowns, but his is shaping up like one!

 

[VerbalAbuse]

Worn out tires are nothing compared to the fumes emitted by internal combustion engines. My dad converted his '75 corvette roadster into an EV. He's the last guy I expected to go electric but he loves the car and performance. He's holding onto the original engine. Why? Who knows but I don't see him ever going back to that

He's probably jerking off over it.

 

[HisArpy]

No it's not amps, it's voltage.

A stun gun (Taser) isn't a million volts. It's 50,000. Why, because Ohms laws says that all the voltage you need to shock but not kill.

Actually 4-10 amps will burn you. 100 to 120 miliamps will kill you.

LMFAO...here do some reading before you further embarrass yourself....

PS Alex has already posted a picture of him crossing the polls of a 48 Kw battery bank.....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2763825/#:~:text=The skin contact resistance will,the skin, and other factors.

Well I gave you the opportunity to get out of this electrical discussion before. This is my final warning that you cannot claim to be punking us after we burn your ass cherry read over a subject I have a degree in, and Alex may have too...

Oh look, someone else with a "degree" in electricity who doesn't understand shit about electricity.

You even contradict yourself (see the bold above).

And of course...

Basic stun guns might be as low as 25,000-30,000 volts whereas a super “high strength” model might produce up to 200,000,000 volts!
https://s2tconcealed.com/the-shocking-truth-about-tasers-and-stun-guns/

So, dunderhead, what are you going to say about someone stating that some stun gun models have 200 MILLION volts, that they're not telling the truth either?

BTW, all it takes is POINT 4 milliamps ACROSS YOUR HEART but the average electrical discharge doesn't create that kind of circuit so it takes a lot more amperage to overcome the resistance in the human body to get the same electrocution result. That's about 4 amps depending on a lot of variable factors.

Speaking of circuits, you can touch the terminals of a car battery and not get shocked IF (IF IF IF IF IF...) you don't create a circuit. For those who don't understand what that means and how to avoid it, it's best you just not play around with electricity instead of relying on stupid pictures of ASSHOLES doing dumb things to keep you safe. What that picture does is basically tell you that because someone got away with playing Russian Roulette you can too. It's FUCKING STUPID and Laurel needs to delete the image and ban the fucktard who posted it because of the very real possibility that someone will try it and die. Free speech doesn't mean you can post shit that can hurt people.

Be that as it may, in the end the issue still comes down to amperage. Amps can kill, volts alone usually won't. And if shit for brains wants to play stupid games with electrical systems and batteries, I'm not going to stop him. I will tell anyone who will listen not to believe a word he (or you) say about it because it's an invitation to suicide.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Oh look, someone else with a "degree" in electricity who doesn't understand shit about electricity.

I'm not the one with the issue understand the relationship between volts/amps/and Resistance....that is you!

So, dunderhead, what are you going to say about someone stating that some stun gun models have 200 MILLION volts, that they're not telling the truth either?

Did you read the link yourself?

Well incase you didn't...

"Now, let’s talk about one of the more important features of either product: its effectiveness! The “power” of a stun gun is often expressed in the voltage. Basic stun guns might be as low as 25,000-30,000 volts whereas a super “high strength” model might produce up to 200,000,000 volts! Now, you might automatically say, “well obviously I want more volts”. However, even though voltage is how stun gun products are often marketed; there is a lot of hype surrounding those multi-million-volt options. You don’t need to pay for the hype! It’s the amperage that determines how much punch the product delivers to the attacker. To use a simple analogy, let’s imagine for a moment that electricity is a river. The voltage would be the overall size of the river. The amperage would be how fast that river is flowing. If you know anything about a river, you know fast water is far more dangerous than still water, regardless of the size or depth of the water itself.

That same basic paradigm holds for electricity as well. While higher voltage is certainly not a bad thing, more amperage is what makes a big difference. A fraction of an amp can kill you! Most stun gun products range between 2 and 4 MILLIAMPS (for my less nerdy crowd, 1 amp is 1,000 milliamps). So, to put all this science mumbo jumbo into layman’s terms; the higher the voltage, the more stimulus to the nervous system but the higher the amperage, the more potent the dose of stimulation. As a general rule, look for a product that has at least 50,000 volts. Why 50,000 volts as a baseline? Well, most police-grade tasers are about 50,000 volts. That certainly seems like a great baseline to work from. Could a quality 25,000-stun gun be just as effective if properly employed? Most likely yes. However, when you’re buying a potentially life-saving tool, “most likely” and “probably so” aren’t the benchmarks you want to strive for."

BTW, all it takes is POINT 4 milliamps ACROSS YOUR HEART but the average electrical discharge doesn't create that kind of circuit so it takes a lot more amperage to overcome the resistance in the human body to get the same electrocution result. That's about 4 amps depending on a lot of variable factors.

lol, you have no fucking clue what you just posted....btw read the red bold above....

Speaking of circuits, you can touch the terminals of a car battery and not get shocked IF (IF IF IF IF IF...) you don't create a circuit. For those who don't understand what that means and how to avoid it, it's best you just not play around with electricity instead of relying on stupid pictures of ASSHOLES doing dumb things to keep you safe. What that picture does is basically tell you that because someone got away with playing Russian Roulette you can too. It's FUCKING STUPID and Laurel needs to delete the image and ban the fucktard who posted it because of the very real possibility that someone will try it and die. Free speech doesn't mean you can post shit that can hurt people.

More ignorance of electricity on display above........Whole E Fuck thanks for the laugh, I'm almost in tears....

Be that as it may, in the end the issue still comes down to amperage. Amps can kill, volts alone usually won't. And if shit for brains wants to play stupid games with electrical systems and batteries, I'm not going to stop him. I will tell anyone who will listen not to believe a word he (or you) say about it because it's an invitation to suicide.

No the issue is a combination of three things....Voltage, Coulombs and Resistance.....E=I x R that is the law, and you Councillor should read up on it....the law that is.....


The claim to be Punking has left the building....let the meltdown begin!!

 

[HisArpy]

I'm not the one with the issue understand the relationship between volts/amps/and Resistance....that is you!

Did you read the link yourself?

Well incase you didn't...

"Now, let’s talk about one of the more important features of either product: its effectiveness! The “power” of a stun gun is often expressed in the voltage. Basic stun guns might be as low as 25,000-30,000 volts whereas a super “high strength” model might produce up to 200,000,000 volts! Now, you might automatically say, “well obviously I want more volts”. However, even though voltage is how stun gun products are often marketed; there is a lot of hype surrounding those multi-million-volt options. You don’t need to pay for the hype! It’s the amperage that determines how much punch the product delivers to the attacker. To use a simple analogy, let’s imagine for a moment that electricity is a river. The voltage would be the overall size of the river. The amperage would be how fast that river is flowing. If you know anything about a river, you know fast water is far more dangerous than still water, regardless of the size or depth of the water itself.

That same basic paradigm holds for electricity as well. While higher voltage is certainly not a bad thing, more amperage is what makes a big difference. A fraction of an amp can kill you! Most stun gun products range between 2 and 4 MILLIAMPS (for my less nerdy crowd, 1 amp is 1,000 milliamps). So, to put all this science mumbo jumbo into layman’s terms; the higher the voltage, the more stimulus to the nervous system but the higher the amperage, the more potent the dose of stimulation. As a general rule, look for a product that has at least 50,000 volts. Why 50,000 volts as a baseline? Well, most police-grade tasers are about 50,000 volts. That certainly seems like a great baseline to work from. Could a quality 25,000-stun gun be just as effective if properly employed? Most likely yes. However, when you’re buying a potentially life-saving tool, “most likely” and “probably so” aren’t the benchmarks you want to strive for."



lol, you have no fucking clue what you just posted....btw read the red bold above....

More ignorance of electricity on display above........Whole E Fuck thanks for the laugh, I'm almost in tears....

No the issue is a combination of three things....Voltage, Coulombs and Resistance.....E=I x R that is the law, and you Councillor should read up on it....the law that is.....


The claim to be Punking has left the building....let the meltdown begin!!

tl;dr;LOTS of BULLSHIT designed to try and extricate yourself from the lies you intentionally spread in your zeal to somehow prove yourself "smart" when you obviously aren't.