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love the eulogy, dmallord, but there's one tiny (but all-important) correction needed, if Major Rewrite's youtube posting is correct: Cricket was a mere 14 months old, still a baby.
 
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From how Noem characterized the antisocial aspects of her goat, one has to wonder if it was the first goat she'd ever encountered.
 
A bit of reflection on Governor Noem and her departed pet(s):

What would Noem think if she had to sit next to flatulent Trump for a six-week trial?

I'm leaning strongly toward a two-word image, 'gravel pit.'
 
Dog Killer is starting to realise how badly she fucked up.

And, in typical Deplorable fashion, she's now pretending she didn’t say what she herself put in writing. (And somehow managing to fuck that up too.) 🤣

Kristi Noem, the governor of South Dakota whose chance of being Donald Trump’s presidential running mate was widely deemed over after she published a description of shooting dead a dog and a goat, claimed reports of the story were “fake news” but also that the dog in question, Cricket, a 14-month-old wirehaired pointer, was “extremely dangerous” and deserved her fate.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/02/kristi-noem-response-dog-killing
 
As much as I don't like Noem, I have to think that, to a large extent, this reflects the intellectual/emotional divide between city and farm (and thus urban states and rural ones). I'm definitely a city boy (mostly large foreign cities), but my family owns a working ranch, so I can see divides on issues like this one.

To city folks, dogs are pets (or personal protectors). To farm/ranch people most of them have working functions (Noem has almost pleadingly been referring the dog she shot as a working dog. City folks can't really fathom what she means by that). Their functions include herding/protecting livestock. Not killing/eating livestock. If they are let into the house, it's not because they are pets--it's because they are working family members.

The state where we have a ranch has laws about putting dogs down that have gotten a taste and a liking for killing/eating live chickens. If your dog does that to the neighbors' chickens (a scenario Noem has played here), the neighbor can (and probably will if you don't do it yourself) demand to have your dog put down and it will be done. The prevailing thinking is the dog now has a taste for killing/eating livestock and won't fit in the system anymore. If they can't be trained to help put food on the family's table, they aren't of any use either (and some will put them down for that--it's one of the reasons Noem gives for doing it).

On a farm, this is a real problem. The city folks answer is that the dog can be retrained or rehomed. This is often the farmer's/rancher's answer too short of the dog having killed livestock. But once they've gotten a taste of the neighbor's chickens . . .

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the law in most red states just because they are mostly farm/ranch territory.

It's likely that Noem thought this story would go no further than to establish that she faces the tough decisions and doesn't shirk from doing them herself. I can see where this would be understood that way in farm/ranch territory.

Certainly not acceptable in urban/suburban territory, so, yes, at the minimum she's not in touch with the majority.

I can see why she's still a bit confused over how badly the messaging went, though. And the kicker, since she's a Trumper Republican, might be that she didn't actually do it--only lied about doing it to exhibit herself as up to the tough jobs.
 
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KeithD said:
As much as I don't like Noem, I have to think that, to a large extent, this reflects the intellectual/emotional divide between city and farm (and thus urban states and rural ones). I'm definitely a city boy (mostly large foreign cities), but my family owns a working ranch, so I can see divides on issues like this one.

To city folks, dogs are pets (or personal protectors). To farm/ranch people most of them have working functions (Noem has almost pleadingly been referring the dog she shot as a working dog. City folks can't really fathom what she means by that). Their functions include herding/protecting livestock. Not killing/eating livestock. If they are let into the house, it's not because they are pets--it's because they are working family members.

The state where we have a ranch has laws about putting dogs down that have gotten a taste and a liking for killing/eating live chickens. If your dog does that to the neighbors' chickens (a scenario Noem has played here), the neighbor can (and probably will if you don't do it yourself) demand to have your dog put down and it will be done. The prevailing thinking is the dog now has a taste for killing/eating livestock and won't fit in the system anymore. If they can't be trained to help put food on the family's table, they aren't of any use either (and some will put them down for that--it's one of the reasons Noem gives for doing it).

On a farm, this is a real problem. The city folks answer is that the dog can be retrained or rehomed. This is often the farmer's/rancher's answer too short of the dog having killed livestock. But once they've gotten a taste of the neighbor's chickens . . .

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the law in most red states just because they are mostly farm/ranch territory.

It's likely that Noem thought this story would go no further than to establish that she faces the tough decisions and doesn't shirk from doing them herself. I can see where this would be understood that way in farm/ranch territory.

Certainly not acceptable in urban/suburban territory, so, yes, at the minimum she's not in touch with the majority.

I can see why she's still a bit confused over how badly the messaging went, though. And the kicker, since she's a Trumper Republican, might be that she didn't actually do it--only lied about doing it to exhibit herself as up to the tough jobs.
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This is a good representation of the differences between farm/ranch and city/town animal purposes. I'll credit that as accurate.

Yet, Noem herself said if I were a better Politician, I wouldn't have mentioned the dog/goat killing episode. So, why did she - knowing she would open herself to ridicule?

What numbskull shoots themselves in the foot like that ... besides Trump and most of his lawyers. Still, it was a puppy ... maybe she should have checked with her family before offing a family member like that.
 
dmallord said:
Yet, Noem herself said if I were a better Politician, I wouldn't have mentioned the dog/goat killing episode. So, why did she - knowing she would open herself to ridicule?

What numbskull shoots themselves in the foot like that ... besides Trump and most of his lawyers. Still, it was a puppy ... maybe she should have checked with her family before offing a family member like that.
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The "if I were a better Politician" is red state speak for "I'm not a Washington, D.C., politician. Naturally you should vote for me."

She shot herself on the foot nationally on this because, like all Trumpers, she thinks her views are somehow in a majority that they aren't.

As to "family member," I think you missed the city/farm difference on this point. She called the dog a "working dog." This is farm speak for "one of the livestock, not the family pet--and most certainly not a family member." You are viewing this from your eyes, not hers--or any other farmer's who raises animals to be slaughtered to serve restaurants in the city.
 
jaF0 said:
Lying you say? A 'Pub? Hush yo' mouff!!!!


South Dakota Gov. Noem erroneously describes meeting with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un in new book​

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I see that she’s now pretending the dog was a danger to herself and her children. Soon she’ll say the puppy was rabid.

Meanwhile, Noem is trying to fend off the bipartisan backlash for the book’s description of shooting her hunting dog, as well as a goat.

“Don’t believe the #fakenews media’s twisted spin,” she posted on X, formerly Twitter, this week. “I had a choice between the safety of my children and an animal who had a history of attacking people & killing livestock.”
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KeithD said:
The "if I were a better Politician" is red state speak for "I'm not a Washington, D.C., politician. Naturally you should vote for me."

She shot herself on the foot nationally on this because, like all Trumpers, she thinks her views are somehow in a majority that they aren't.

As to "family member," I think you missed the city/farm difference on this point. She called the dog a "working dog." This is farm speak for "one of the livestock, not the family pet--and most certainly not a family member." You are viewing this from your eyes, not hers--or any other farmer's who raises animals to be slaughtered to serve restaurants in the city.
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I got the first two points.

The third as well though I see that a bit differently. I grew up on several farms as a kid to eighteen. Diary, sheep, and beef raising farms, so I know about the role of meat production. The farmers had working dogs that they treated as well as they treated me. [State ward in foster homes for me.] I never saw one treat a dog the way she did. If a dog got 'the taste' for chicken, the dog got tied up when the chickens were out—common sense. Old dogs died of old age, like people. Those in pain or severely hurt got put down. I don't recall in those years of being passed from farm to farm that any of the farmers acted as callously as Noem.

Perhaps it is the difference between growing up in the plains and central states, where farms are more compact. Whatever the outcome, Noem's future is clear—she didn't do herself any favors by painting herself in that bad light situation.
 
Trump will like her for it; he hates dogs and he has no need for one. If he needs to pat a pet on the head there's always Lindsey Graham.
 
Chernosoth said:
Rural folk oppose abortion but a dead dog is just meh. City slickers support abortion rights but a dead dog is OMFG.
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Rural folks look the other way at coat hanger abortions, while "city slickers" support safe medical abortions.

"City slickers" will pay to euthanize their dogs humanely when the time comes, while rural folks welcome the opportunity for live target practice.

"okay Cricket, I'ma gonna give you a 20 second head start......"
 
Cricket Noem and Billy "Goat" Noem are at peace and one with the Force now. Governor Noem has been a disturbance in the Jedi Force, which holds a tenuous tether on the Republican Party's definition of a fragile democracy. I feel she will turn further to the 'dark side.' [In case you were wondering, I've been watching the Star Wars weekend marathon.]
 
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KeithD said:
As much as I don't like Noem, I have to think that, to a large extent, this reflects the intellectual/emotional divide between city and farm (and thus urban states and rural ones). I'm definitely a city boy (mostly large foreign cities), but my family owns a working ranch, so I can see divides on issues like this one.

To city folks, dogs are pets (or personal protectors). To farm/ranch people most of them have working functions (Noem has almost pleadingly been referring the dog she shot as a working dog. City folks can't really fathom what she means by that). Their functions include herding/protecting livestock. Not killing/eating livestock. If they are let into the house, it's not because they are pets--it's because they are working family members.

The state where we have a ranch has laws about putting dogs down that have gotten a taste and a liking for killing/eating live chickens. If your dog does that to the neighbors' chickens (a scenario Noem has played here), the neighbor can (and probably will if you don't do it yourself) demand to have your dog put down and it will be done. The prevailing thinking is the dog now has a taste for killing/eating livestock and won't fit in the system anymore. If they can't be trained to help put food on the family's table, they aren't of any use either (and some will put them down for that--it's one of the reasons Noem gives for doing it).

On a farm, this is a real problem. The city folks answer is that the dog can be retrained or rehomed. This is often the farmer's/rancher's answer too short of the dog having killed livestock. But once they've gotten a taste of the neighbor's chickens . . .

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the law in most red states just because they are mostly farm/ranch territory.

It's likely that Noem thought this story would go no further than to establish that she faces the tough decisions and doesn't shirk from doing them herself. I can see where this would be understood that way in farm/ranch territory.

Certainly not acceptable in urban/suburban territory, so, yes, at the minimum she's not in touch with the majority.

I can see why she's still a bit confused over how badly the messaging went, though. And the kicker, since she's a Trumper Republican, might be that she didn't actually do it--only lied about doing it to exhibit herself as up to the tough jobs.
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Smart take.
 
The Bidens were held accountable for their dog. It was sent back to Wilmington, DE. It probably should have been sent back earlier and more permanently than it was, though. I don't recall the possibility of putting it down having come up--for a very good reason Governor Noem should now understand. It's not a good breed for the Bidens to have, though, in the fishbowl they've lived in for nearly half a century. As not good for the German Shepherd as for the large number of people swirling around it.
 
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