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The biggest issue I have is not so much with the report but the consequences, in that the government has decided to intervene in the medical process by banning blockers and hormone treatment for U-18s. While Cass pointed out that evidence has been poorly recorded, she acknowledged their effectiveness for some trans people and against a blanket ban. The blockers pre-date the upsurge in numbers by at least twenty years and were first used in the Netherlands in 1998.

Having had time to read more of the report, I get the sense that Cass sees trans people as broken and not as valuable as cis gender people - that's based on omission than any expression of approval. It's as though she's burst into the building and demanded to see the clinical trials, stats, graphs and scientific evidence, which is indeed lacking. She places little weight in anecdotal evidence - you know, happy trans people living meaningful lives.

I listened to a podcast earlier including one trans person who'd waited three years for a GiDs appointment, but then got a letter saying they were now too old for GiDs and would have to re-apply for the adult service. Most of that comes down to lack of funding. I hope the next Labour govt will simply put a penny on income tax specifically for the NHS - no one, apart from those on private health, will object.

On the topic of de-transitioning the numbers need analysis not simply totalled. Many de-transition because they face social pressure ( lets just call that bullying ), some may delay transitioning for economic or other reasons so they intended to come back to it later, and some may find they can't tolerate hormone drugs. Additionally, stats can be furthered distorted by setting a false start point for their transition - when does a person actually start their transition?

Here's a decent review from Stonewall that does a better job than me.
 
I've been watching a few YT vloggers about autism, who mention how ADHD is often comorbid with ASD and the two conditions often misdiagnosed. There's an article from 2020 in Spectrum News that has focused on how often Gender Diversity also overlaps with autism.
So what if GD was another expression of autism? That makes a lot of sense to me and remember... you heard it here first! If an association was firmly established, maybe politicians would ease off on their attacks on trans folk?
Here's stats from the article: from a survey of 640,000 people in 2017, 30k ( 5% ) of cisgender folk were autistic, whereas 895 ( 24% ) of gender diverse people are. A 2018 Australian survey found much the same, finding 22% of transgender adolescents were autistic compared to 2.5% on the general population.
The problem remains that politicians, weird cults and whacko doctors want to cure autism too.
 
Okay, I'm done with trying to ignore the bad news, the political point scoring, the celebrity hate bombs. The UK is a shit place for trans folk right now. Every trans person needs to look after their own mental health and reach out to support each other in this dark time, because no one else is going to do that for us. Maybe they'll start flying us to Rwanda as well.
 
stickygirl said:
Okay, I'm done with trying to ignore the bad news, the political point scoring, the celebrity hate bombs. The UK is a shit place for trans folk right now. Every trans person needs to look after their own mental health and reach out to support each other in this dark time, because no one else is going to do that for us. Maybe they'll start flying us to Rwanda as well.
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The entire world is going to be this way until we get over this obsession with authoritarianism.
 
Paradox said:
The entire world is going to be this way until we get over this obsession with authoritarianism.
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Unfortunately, tyrants and demagogues have discovered the power of fear. As long as they have scapegoats like immigrants, LGBTQ+, blacks and poor people to blame for the country's "problems," authoritarianism will never go away. Teach your followers to fear people that are "different" and your followers will choose a despot over democracy every time. Depressing, I know but this strategy has been used time and time again over history: Hitler, Stalin, Trump... :(
 
Maybe it's why there is a war looming. Cultures change following wars, technology increases.

Maybe when we get through the war society will be a nicer more accepting place for another 80 years or so.
 
Yesok1 said:
Maybe it's why there is a war looming. Cultures change following wars, technology increases.

Maybe when we get through the war society will be a nicer more accepting place for another 80 years or so.
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I hope people can learn from the dreadful conflict in Palestine and war in Ukraine, by proxy and so not have to go to war again ourselves as every generation seems to do. I'm heartened by the crowds coming out against conflict and recognise the people who suffer.
 
stickygirl said:
Every trans person needs to look after their own mental health and reach out to support each other in this dark time, because no one else is going to do that for us.
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I think we in the trans, and queer community will only prosper if we do reach out to others, support those suffering, sharing hugs and hard times. By being there, hopefully we are that much stronger together!
I know it helps me to remember the few positive scraps of news I hear.
 
stickygirl said:
I've been watching a few YT vloggers about autism, who mention how ADHD is often comorbid with ASD and the two conditions often misdiagnosed. There's an article from 2020 in Spectrum News that has focused on how often Gender Diversity also overlaps with autism.
So what if GD was another expression of autism? That makes a lot of sense to me and remember... you heard it here first! If an association was firmly established, maybe politicians would ease off on their attacks on trans folk?
Here's stats from the article: from a survey of 640,000 people in 2017, 30k ( 5% ) of cisgender folk were autistic, whereas 895 ( 24% ) of gender diverse people are. A 2018 Australian survey found much the same, finding 22% of transgender adolescents were autistic compared to 2.5% on the general population.
The problem remains that politicians, weird cults and whacko doctors want to cure autism too.
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As someone well on their way to being an Old White Guy, I'd like to disassociate with the OWGs who hold political positions. My autistic daughter, now in her mid 20s came out as a lesbian at 19. While she is open about both aspects, she is cautious In the outside world on both counts. We support her whole heartedly but her biological mother has very little to do with her which frustrates us no end. I don't believe that there should be any discrimination based on being gay or trans.

Problem we are finding is that lgbtqi+ is going to extreme measures which is being matched by extreme measures by the haters. Gays and trans should be allowed by all sides to live their lives the way they wish. The rest of society should be able to get on with their lives in peace as well.

Bit of a rambling post, sorry...
 
MagicFlute said:
As someone well on their way to being an Old White Guy, I'd like to disassociate with the OWGs who hold political positions. My autistic daughter, now in her mid 20s came out as a lesbian at 19. While she is open about both aspects, she is cautious In the outside world on both counts. We support her whole heartedly but her biological mother has very little to do with her which frustrates us no end. I don't believe that there should be any discrimination based on being gay or trans.

Problem we are finding is that lgbtqi+ is going to extreme measures which is being matched by extreme measures by the haters. Gays and trans should be allowed by all sides to live their lives the way they wish. The rest of society should be able to get on with their lives in peace as well.

Bit of a rambling post, sorry...
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For a time I hung out on a Reddit forum for autistic women, just after I got my diagnosis and the discussions were super helpful. After a year some other women joined the group who were clearly anti-trans, so I was pushed out - one of the newcomers became a mod who made my posts invisible to everyone else.

The conclusion I drew was that autistic people could be just as bigoted as anyone else. In fact, given their need for order, they can be more inflexible in their thinking than NT folks. Being LGBTQ+ can grind the gears of plenty of people for no logical reason - it's an emotional reflex but I can't possibly guess at your ex's position.

If you're gay or lesbian, you've got to work quite hard to be recognised as such in the street. Hiding in plain sight is a privilege for Ls, Gs and Bs. However, if you dye your hair bright pink or make your gender/sexuality overt then you're inviting a response from strangers.

The perception of the public is skewed by pressure groups who are encouraged by the media and anyone else seeking to stoke the fires of unrest in society. It's not difficult to fit in, but a tiny minority take a malevolent delight in sending dead rats to JKR, or declaring themselves trans if they're sent to prison, or even plotting to kill transgender people because it's a cool thing to do. Those people aren't allies and we don't need their 'help'. We're transitioning to be normal, not break society by forcing people to refer to chest-feeding or waving our junk at women in a changing room. Most trans folk are quiet, thoughtful and kind people.
 
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Love the phrase "transitioning to normal " that sums it up perfectly!💓

And yes there are just some people I believe play devil's advocate just to watch the world burn without having any investment in that world.
 
Yesok1 said:
Maybe it's why there is a war looming. Cultures change following wars, technology increases.

Maybe when we get through the war society will be a nicer more accepting place for another 80 years or so.
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It does seem the pendulum has to swing its full arc, doesn't it? I'm not sure our world can survive a modern war.
 
The Catholic Church often comes under (deserved!) scrutiny for the hatred spewed by many of its leaders, especially here in the US. This article was recently published describing that, while the church in the US is actually shrinking in size, the people that remain are more rigid in their beliefs that homosexuality, transgenderism, sex outside of marriage etc., are evil. For me, the most frightening aspect is the young people who are espousing these views. They're among those seeking to erase the progress of the last 60+ years in terms of human dignity and human rights.

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/othe...immense-shift-toward-the-old-ways/ar-AA1o1l05
 
Crios said:
The Catholic Church often comes under (deserved!) scrutiny for the hatred spewed by many of its leaders, especially here in the US. This article was recently published describing that, while the church in the US is actually shrinking in size, the people that remain are more rigid in their beliefs that homosexuality, transgenderism, sex outside of marriage etc., are evil. For me, the most frightening aspect is the young people who are espousing these views. They're among those seeking to erase the progress of the last 60+ years in terms of human dignity and human rights.

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/othe...immense-shift-toward-the-old-ways/ar-AA1o1l05
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Sounds like circling the wagons and saving the last bullets for each other?
 
I glory in your journey , I have always known i was different, always felt an affinity with all things fem, but grew up in an age when most hid this side of themselves . I’m so glad that nowadays people are are able to be who they truly feel they should be .
I would not want to cause hurt and distress for any of my family …. As I know it would, so all I can do is dream and enjoy the private moments I can find .
 
 
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