wow, up to 150 tornadoes the last couple of days
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Figured this would be a good time to remind people:
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2024...ther-is-it-time-to-link-it-to-climate-change/
From the article:
Since at least the 1970s, fossil fuel producers such as ExxonMobil have known that digging up what used to be biomass and burning it was altering the atmosphere in a way that trapped the sun’s heat. But when energy executives calculated that public knowledge of that science would harm their bottom lines, they financed an elaborate disinformation campaign raising doubt about what was happening.
Propaganda shops like the Heartland Institute (which is now amplifyingDonald Trump’s lies about the 2020 election) bombarded reporters with emails making them reluctant to state that anthropomorphic climate change was the scientific consensus that it actually was. The corporate-funded claims might have been garbage, but their frequency and ferocity intimidated the press into raising false doubts about climate change — much as it did about the addictiveness and harm of cigarettes a decade earlier.
For journalists covering weather events, it’s easier not to wade into the subject of Earth’s changing atmosphere and whether that has anything to do with the tornado or flood or hurricane or wildfire that they’re trying to cover. In fact, NPR reported in November, weather experts in the Midwest said that talking publicly about global warming brought them threats.
The RWCJ usual suspects LOUDLY whine about the government alerting social media platforms about malign misinformation / disinformation, but when it comes to things like BLATANT corporate manipulation / suppression of CRITICAL information, the RWCJ usual suspects SILENTLY approve.
JFC
SAD!!!
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2024...ther-is-it-time-to-link-it-to-climate-change/
From the article:
Since at least the 1970s, fossil fuel producers such as ExxonMobil have known that digging up what used to be biomass and burning it was altering the atmosphere in a way that trapped the sun’s heat. But when energy executives calculated that public knowledge of that science would harm their bottom lines, they financed an elaborate disinformation campaign raising doubt about what was happening.
Propaganda shops like the Heartland Institute (which is now amplifyingDonald Trump’s lies about the 2020 election) bombarded reporters with emails making them reluctant to state that anthropomorphic climate change was the scientific consensus that it actually was. The corporate-funded claims might have been garbage, but their frequency and ferocity intimidated the press into raising false doubts about climate change — much as it did about the addictiveness and harm of cigarettes a decade earlier.
For journalists covering weather events, it’s easier not to wade into the subject of Earth’s changing atmosphere and whether that has anything to do with the tornado or flood or hurricane or wildfire that they’re trying to cover. In fact, NPR reported in November, weather experts in the Midwest said that talking publicly about global warming brought them threats.
The RWCJ usual suspects LOUDLY whine about the government alerting social media platforms about malign misinformation / disinformation, but when it comes to things like BLATANT corporate manipulation / suppression of CRITICAL information, the RWCJ usual suspects SILENTLY approve.
JFC
SAD!!!
RobDownSouth
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Was stuck between Dallas and Houston yesterday afternoon and crawled along the Interstate at 30 mph in torrential downpours. So dark you couldn't see lighted signs. Everyone had their emergency blinkers on.
How bad was it? Even guys in Dodge RAM trucks were going slow (a sure sign of the apocalypse). Frontage roads along the Interstate were flooded, saw one car "swim" sideways from the frontage road up to the interstate (no roadway, just swampy grass).
Got a tad worried when it started raining SIDEWAY (left to right) because that's usually how twisters form. A long ten minutes. Didn't see any actual tornados but looked in awe at a big black cloud move across the sky faster than I was driving.
Actually felt sorry for two Bandito gang bangers on motorcycles...they found an underpass to wait it out. Google maps kept saying FLOOD WARNING! FLASH FLOOD WARNING! TORNADO WARNING! TORNADO WATCH!
I said "anything else, God?" and got answered immediately with a one minute burst of hail. Kept my mouth shut after that.
How bad was it? Even guys in Dodge RAM trucks were going slow (a sure sign of the apocalypse). Frontage roads along the Interstate were flooded, saw one car "swim" sideways from the frontage road up to the interstate (no roadway, just swampy grass).
Got a tad worried when it started raining SIDEWAY (left to right) because that's usually how twisters form. A long ten minutes. Didn't see any actual tornados but looked in awe at a big black cloud move across the sky faster than I was driving.
Actually felt sorry for two Bandito gang bangers on motorcycles...they found an underpass to wait it out. Google maps kept saying FLOOD WARNING! FLASH FLOOD WARNING! TORNADO WARNING! TORNADO WATCH!
I said "anything else, God?" and got answered immediately with a one minute burst of hail. Kept my mouth shut after that.
butters
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that'll larn ya!
it's a sign of wisdom to know when to shut yer yapper
srsly, though, glad you're safe, man.
butters
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so you don't think 150 in a couple of days is excessive, even for April?
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That wasn't even a "super outbreak". 150 a day is your average day in Texas
Yeah, except shit is popping off EARLIER in the year and shit is also popping off LATER in the year.
That ^ is anthropogenic climate change in action.
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Initial reports and warnings issued do not mean confirmed numbers. The highest confirmed number for a month in Oklahoma was 105:
https://www.weather.gov/oun/tornadodata-ok-monthlyannual
At this point SPC only lists 9 for 4/28:
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html
That number may change as field reports and evaluations are completed.
Last year, 2023:
"The most prolific tornado outbreak of 2023 occurred on March 31, with more than 160 tornadoes that tore across many southern and central states. "
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/tornadoes/202313
In '21, '22 and '23, there were several months with numbers over 200:
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/torn/newm.html
The 1974 Super Outbreak totaled 147:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tornadoes_in_the_1974_Super_Outbreak
https://www.weather.gov/oun/tornadodata-ok-monthlyannual
At this point SPC only lists 9 for 4/28:
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html
That number may change as field reports and evaluations are completed.
Last year, 2023:
"The most prolific tornado outbreak of 2023 occurred on March 31, with more than 160 tornadoes that tore across many southern and central states. "
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/tornadoes/202313
In '21, '22 and '23, there were several months with numbers over 200:
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/torn/newm.html
The 1974 Super Outbreak totaled 147:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tornadoes_in_the_1974_Super_Outbreak
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The 1925 Tri-State outbreak that killed over 700 was on March 18.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri-State_tornado_outbreak
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January and February average about 40 and March ramps up to around 90. April and June are around 200 with May getting closer to 300:
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/wcm/permonth_by_state/
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/wcm/permonth_by_state/
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Read your own chart and see if you can spot the pattern developing.
I’ll direct your attention to the bottom of the chart where the numbers in green indicate the most tornadoes by month and year.
I think you can figure out how things are trending from there.
And that chart only deals with tornadoes, not Hurricanes and heat waves, which are popping off earlier, and occurring later in the year.
Anthropogenic climate change deniers are in denial.
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so, given that, and the weather station's reporting as yet not wholly confirmed(?), April's average is 200... and it's likely surpassed 100 by quite a number in just 2 days. I'd call that a bit excessive.
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