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[Lazaran]

The Israel Defense Forces have completed their thorough examination of the "Flour Massacre". The report completely absolves the Israel Defense Forces from all culpability and blame, even though they previously admitted at least three instances of wrongdoing by the IDF.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1764212191601771006

https://twitter.com/x/status/1764212191601771006

I admit I did Nazi this coming.

You accept what comes out of the "Gaza health ministry” (Hamas animals) ), and imbedded "journalists” in Gaza, who are obviously sympathetic / biased towards the Palestinians, without question / skepticism, but dismiss Israeli reports out of hand.



Be better.



Between propaganda and the fog of war, NOTHING is a given.



The Hamas animal’s (and Palestinian "civilian’s") October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation is the closest thing to an indisputably cowardly genocidal terrorist attack in the entirety of the conflict.



Everything else is colored by the fact that Israel and Hamas are NOW in a declared war.

Shit is gonna happen.

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

You accept what comes out of the "Gaza health ministry” (Hamas animals) ), and imbedded "journalists” in Gaza, who are obviously sympathetic / biased towards the Palestinians, without question / skepticism, but dismiss Israeli reports out of hand.



Be better.



Between propaganda and the fog of war, NOTHING is a given.



The Hamas animal’s (and Palestinian "civilian’s") October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation is the closest thing to an indisputably cowardly genocidal terrorist attack in the entirety of the conflict.



Everything else is colored by the fact that Israel and Hamas are NOW in a declared war.

Shit is gonna happen.

Bona fide insane this response.

Virtually everything coming out of Israel and the IDF is contradicted by everyone else including their lies now. It cannot be “Israel right, everyone else wrong”.

Pro Israelis on here are increasingly desperate.

 

[Lazaran]

Having healthy skepticism when it comes to reports from ALL parties involved IN A WAR is healthy.

The deaths at the aid convoy were likely the result of a combination of factors / events involving both sides.

That ^ does not confer total responsibility for those deaths on one side or the other.

Hope that ^ helps

 

[RobDownSouth]

You accept what comes out of the "Gaza health ministry” (Hamas animals) ), and imbedded "journalists” in Gaza, who are obviously sympathetic / biased towards the Palestinians, without question / skepticism, but dismiss Israeli reports out of hand.

There is a lot to unpack here.

• I take journalist reports on a case-by-case basis. I know there have been some Hamas-favorable coverage from "embed" in the Hams militia.
• When I see actual video footage of Israeli troops looting and abusing civilians I post the footage here.
• I accept anything and everything that comes out of the Gaza health ministry as the 'gold standard' of truthfulness. They have been ceaselessly crucified by Israel's government and military for years. The Gazan health ministry got smart and began clearing all press through independent NGOs such as UN agencies and the Red Cross and the Red Crescent. I understand you do not feel the same way.
• Conversely, the Israel military has zero credibility with me. None. They lie routinely to advance their cause. They tricked President Biden into making the "40 beheaded babies" false claim. They routinely refer to captured female troops as hostages. They shoot unarmed Jews screaming don't shoot in Hebrew. They routinely piss on the public's pants and insists that it is raining. They have no honor. Again, I understand that you feel differently.

 

[Lazaran]

I accept anything and everything that comes out of the Gaza health ministry as the 'gold standard' of truthfulness. They have been ceaselessly crucified by Israel's government and military for years. The Gazan health ministry got smart and began clearing all press through independent NGOs such as UN agencies and the Red Cross and the Red Crescent. I understand you do not feel the same way.

There ^ is your mistake.



Side note:

The random Israeli soldiers live-streaming inappropriate behavior is bad, but the Hamas animal’s (and Palestinian "civilian’s") live-streaming of the October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation was / is orders of magnitude worse.

The difference is, I will condemn both (though one more than the other), unlike the pro-Palestinian crowd that has yet to condemn the Hamas animal’s (and Palestinian “civilian’s") October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation.

 

[RobDownSouth]

There ^ is your mistake.

I understand. that you and I have vastly different opinions on this issue.
Nevertheless, I stand behind my stated opinion 100%.

 

[ll74]

It is

Screw you and your Jew hate

This is dumb.

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

It is

Screw you and your Jew hate

Criticising a govt literally bombing the crap out of another is not “Jew hate”.

Awful takes by an awful human being.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Another day, another video.
Israeli military routinely stomping a civilian dad for almost two solid minutes in front of his crying family.
Why?
Because they can.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1764208444033110147

 

[jomar]

They'll need to do a hell of a lot more if the Turks do invade.

Don’t disagree, but that’s not what we’re talking about here

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

Stop whining

They aren't bombing. They are restoring civility

The craters n destruction you see is from Hamas, like the bomb at the so called hospital

Calling it - trolling.

 

[ll74]

Stop whining

Just stop.

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

Just stop.

He’s on ignore now, for me. I can’t abide liars and trolls.

This planet needs to get a grip on equal human rights, get out of the cycle of arms manufacturing and selling, wars and economic cycles, and find more the Star Trek future than Dune.

 

[ll74]

He’s on ignore now, for me. I can’t abide liars and trolls.

This planet needs to get a grip on equal human rights, get out of the cycle of arms manufacturing and selling, wars and economic cycles, and find more the Star Trek future than Dune.

That only works until he comes back with another alt.. which is often.

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

That only works until he comes back with another alt.. which is often.

Good to know.

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

Israel’s comments about the UN, member states and its organisations today are so far out of the realms of reality that I just cannot comprehend how anyone is pro Israeli at this point.

It is not, and will never be, Israel right and everyone else wrong when all of the evidence points to a genocide being enacted on the Palestinians.

Some of the things coming out of Israel’s government are almost word for word copies of that the Nazis were saying, genuinely, in the 1930s about the Jews.

Has irony died? Does no one know their history?

I’m stunned at the accusations today that the UN supports terrorism by Israel. It’s insane.

 

[ll74]

The UN supports terrorism

Source?

 

[ll74]

UNRWA

That's not a source. Those are letters. Try again

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

UNRWA

No evidence forthcoming from Israel over 13 employees of an organisation of 30,000 people.

There have been more people who actively murdered people working for the US Postal system last year than that. Should we close down the US Postal System on the basis of under 20 employees who turned out to be murderers?

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

American freedoms include “presumed innocent until otherwise proven guilty”.

It’s been a month now and Israel has provided zero evidence for their accusations, which the UN very pointedly said today, was not acceptable for an ongoing investigation.

All you have is aggression, nonsensical accusations and baseless claims of antisemitism. Get educated, and grow up.

 

[Rightguide]

there are NO DEAD in GAZA

only crisis actors

PENTAGON WALKS BACK AUSTIN’S GAZA CASUALTY FIGURES:





New York Times’ Elizabeth Spiers “didn’t know that Hamas runs the Gaza Health Ministry. Let that sink in. She literally did not know that. She thought it was a conspiracy theory.”
Austin apparently doesn’t know that either — or he doesn’t care.

Alleged Iranian spy Ariane Tabatabai is still has a security clearance and still at work aat high levels in the DOD, so the messaging on Hamas from the DOD should be suspect. Recall that Joe Biden had Robert Malley an Iranian spy, negotiating the nuclear agreement with Iran. They are in our government.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/20/pentagon-aide-called-iran-spy-keeps-security-clearance/

 

[Rightguide]

Where's the left-wing rage at Hamas hijacking the emergency food supplies just dropped into Gaza?

 

[ll74]

Where's the left-wing rage at Hamas hijacking the emergency food supplies just dropped into Gaza?

As much as people seem to think otherwise, this thread is for information, not discussions of outrage over one side or the other.

 

[Rightguide]

As much as people seem to think otherwise, this thread is for information, not discussions of outrage over one side or the other.

Yeah sure.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Where's the left-wing rage at Hamas hijacking the emergency food supplies just dropped into Gaza?

Pfft. It's not Hama hijacking the emergency food supply convoys.
Surprisingly, It's not the Israeli army either....they have more than enough food and medical supplies.
What's happening on these relief truck convoys is the Israeli army is stopping them at random checkpoints..
and publishing the exact locations of these checkpoints so that any Israeli citizen interested in conducting his or her own "inspection" of relief convoys can occur.
Tricksy Israelis!

 

[ll74]

Palestinian Authority Agrees to Pay Hamas $97M a Year​

Take the war to them! Make them PAY the price for supporting terrorists

So you literally copy pasta the headline from your URL and not the URL.

Well done ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯