Will you vote for Trump?

[Lazaran]

it really isn't that hard, except for a few who dislike change....and Sea Lions…

Fyp; yw.

 

[TastySuckToy]

The important question is "Why do they think they're a cat?"

For me, the why, source of the belief and the sincerity of the belief is irrelevant.

No belief dictates reality in any context.

How I respond depends on the answer. Of course they're not physically a cat, but I would treat them differently depending on whether:

1. They're deluded
2. It's a joke
3. It's a fetish
4. Something else

If it doesn't do any harm, I'd probably go along with the bit, even through I don't care much for cats.

I get that you may entertain the claim and also say it does no harm. But does their self identity as a cat convince you that their claim is true?

How would you act toward someone who claims to be a cat?

I'd reject the claim and feel zero obligation to entertain it.

And another question: If they really truly believe themselves to be a cat, how do they tell me they're a cat? Cats can't talk.

You're not wrong.

 

[ll74]

OP: simple yes or no question

Meanwhile.... Page 12 of the responses....

 

[Fuzzy1975]

OP: simple yes or no question

Meanwhile.... Page 12 of the responses....

You're not surprised are you?

 

[RoryN]

The "yes" folks have to add "because" - otherwise the "because" is simply "because I'm a dumb, racist asshole."

(Which is correct.)

 

[Lazaran]

Of course they're not physically a cat

But does their self identity as a cat convince you that their claim is true?

TaintyFuckBoi (Sea Lion)

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I'd reject the claim and feel zero obligation to entertain it.

A toddler crawls up to you, and says "I a cat!"

What do you do?

 

[jomar]

Who cares? They can think they are little green men from mars. I don't have to accept anyone's identity, I just have to show courtesy for what they think their identity is.

it really isn't that hard, except for a few who dislike change....

But, but…what if the filing cabinet wants to vote!!!

 

[MajorRewrite]

I could never vote for a conspiracy nut.

Enabling a delusional paranoiac and his equally delusional paranoid followers isn’t going to do the nation any good.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

But, but…what if the filing cabinet wants to vote!!!

If it's 18, why not? It might be more political astute than some around here...

 

[BlueEyes1969]

NO!
I don't vote for Nazi and Communist fans!

 

[TastySuckToy]

A toddler crawls up to you, and says "I a cat!"

What do you do?

Most likely play along and have fun, while not seriously reinforcing or entertaining the claim.

Toddlers brains are very underdeveloped and are still learning the basics of reality. Which is why I'll playfully entertain the claim while neither believing it nor actually reinforcing any notion it's anything but make believe.

Not sure what this has to do with adults, though.

 

[adrina]

Some things must not be resisted.

 

[zipman]

Adrina thinks about Trump and then itemizes Biden's distinct faults. Trump kept his promises, Joe can't remember his. Americans care more about actions than words.

Trump kept his promises? Hahaha.

Did Mexico pay for the wall?

Did he repeal and replace Obama care with something better?

Did he improve infrastructure despite having several infrastructure weeks?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Most likely play along and have fun, while not seriously reinforcing or entertaining the claim.

Toddlers brains are very underdeveloped and are still learning the basics of reality. Which is why I'll playfully entertain the claim while neither believing it nor actually reinforcing any notion it's anything but make believe.

Not sure what this has to do with adults, though.

You originally said you would reject the claim and feel zero obligation to entertain it.

The point is, it's always rational to consider the context if someone claims to be a cat.

 

[TastySuckToy]

You originally said you would reject the claim and feel zero obligation to entertain it.

The point is, it's always rational to consider the context if someone claims to be a cat.

You think I wasn't justified in assuming the discussion was regarding adults?

 

[adrina]

You think I wasn't justified in assuming the discussion was regarding adults?

You questioned her on having conditions for accepting a claim. Yet you have conditions for accepting a claim. Or at least how you act regarding said claim.

So is your problem having conditions or that she has different conditions than you?

 

[TastySuckToy]

You questioned her on having conditions for accepting a claim. Yet you have conditions for accepting a claim. Or at least how you act regarding said claim.

Correct. There are no conditions upon which I accept the claim a human being is a cat.

 

[adrina]

Correct. There are no conditions upon which I accept the claim a human being is a cat.

Why do you care?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Correct. There are no conditions upon which I accept the claim a human being is a cat.

But you do accept the fact that human beings sometimes pretend to be cats without believing they're cats. If someone tells me they're a cat I'll play along, unless I find out they're up to something nefarious.

There's a guy in Japan who's living his life as a dog. It's seems pretty innocuous. Not my kink, but like whatever, dude.

This would be a whole lot simpler if you just admitted you're squicked by trans people, and skipped the hypothetical cat song and dance.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Why do you care?

I only care if there is any attempt to enforce upon me agreeing or playing along with the claim.

But you do accept the fact that human beings sometimes pretend to be cats without believing they're cats.

Sure.

If someone tells me they're a cat I'll play along, unless I find out they're up to something nefarious.

You're free to do so, I have no objection.

My only objection is if there is any attempt to demand or enforce me playing along.

There's a guy in Japan who's living his life as a dog. It's seems pretty innocuous. Not my kink, but like whatever, dude.

I agree.

This would be a whole lot simpler if you just admitted you're squicked by trans people, and skipped the hypothetical cat song and dance.

So are you then arguing trans people are playing pretend/kink with their claims?

If you're not, why are you bringing up pretend/kinks as counter arguments?

Last time I checked, trans people are not claiming their beliefs are just pretend or just kinks.

As far as I'm concerned, people can pretend to be whatever they want or have whatever kink they want. I'm just not obligated to agree or play along.

 

[latecomer91364]

It's always fun to watch threads get so removed from the initial theme.

Trump 2024!

We have to stop Biden's intentional destruction of our country.

 

[icanhelp1]

A toddler crawls up to you, and says "I a cat!"

What do you do?

Pet it!

 

[Lazaran]

This would be a whole lot simpler if you just admitted you're squicked by trans people, and skipped the hypothetical cat song and dance.

TaintyFuckBoi is not only "squicked" by trans people, but obviously wants "something" done about them: Conversion therapy would be my guess for the first option of "something"; and, if that fails, purging them from society with extreme prejudice would be the next "something".

Side note:

Sick sociopaths / psychopaths usually start down the path of sadism, torture, and killing by practicing on - you guessed it - CATS!!! (Or other small relatively defenseless animals)



JFC

SAD!!!

 

[bijedi]

So your personal observations overrule a person's self identity claims. Is that a standard you agree everyone else can also apply?

There is a difference between questioning an individual's claim of gender dysphoria and denying the existences of gender dysphoria.

Everyone is entitled to judge the sincerity of another person's declaration of their gender identity. There actually is a set of criteria for psychiatrist use in determining the degree of gender dysphoria a person experiences. But one doesn't have to be a psychiatrist to observe if one's actions are consistent with one's words.

Even then, I would give someone the benefit of the doubt within the context. But if a man who exhibits no traits of gender dysphoria suddenly announces he must use the women's locker room because he identifies as a woman, I believe a certain amount of skepticism is warranted. And if it later turns out that person is dealing with gender dysphoria, that would have my complete sympathies and I would feel a fair amount of regret.

YMMV