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[ll74]

Listened to a podcast interview with Medhi, who makes some great arguments regarding Biden and lack of action to push for a ceasefire. He wrote an article on the topic

Biden can end the bombing of Gaza right now. Here’s how

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

This is rubbish. Again. Not borne out by the facts.

A number of liberal democracies came to the ICJ over the course of this week to condemn Israel, the state’s, actions. It had nothing to do with being antisemitic. It was everything to do with Israel’s actions as a state.

People cry “antisemitism” where Israel is concerned to prevent legitimate criticism of a country carrying out war crimes.

Given the war crimes are against a Semitic population, the irony is not lost on me.

Calling Israel “fascist” is definitely antisemitic.

Please don’t quibble over who’s “Semitic”. The term “antisemitism” has meant Jew-hatred since the 19th Century. It was coined to make hating Jews sound like reasonable race “science”.

 

[Mystical24]

Zionism is the belief that Jews should have a homeland.

I’m not going to pretend to understand Zionism but I’m appreciating this thread for giving me things I want to further research and understand.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Zionism is the belief that Jews should have a homeland.

i think that definition is a tad outdated.
A more contemporary definition, in my humble opinion, would be
'Zionism is more "Lebensraum fur den Vaterland", plus eradication of the Untermensch'

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

i think that definition is a tad outdated.
A more contemporary definition, in my humble opinion, would be
'Zionism is more "Lebensraum fur den Vaterland", plus eradication of the Untermensch'

It’s not antisemitic to criticize Israel, but equating Israel to the Nazis definitely is.

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

Calling Israel “fascist” is definitely antisemitic.

Please don’t quibble over who’s “Semitic”. The term “antisemitism” has meant Jew-hatred since the 19th Century. It was coined to make hating Jews sound like reasonable race “science”.

You have a far right government which is calling for the eradication of an indigenous population and involving an apartheid state.

It’s handing out weaponry like candy.

It’s controlling the media.

It focuses on armament and settlement.

It has a leader who has invoked emergency powers to hold onto power and to enact a war.

It’s a fascist state.

To ignore this is to be ignorant of history.

To claim it is antisemitism to point out the obvious is to be utterly repugnant and irrational.

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

Zionism is the belief that Jews should have a homeland.

You missed out the second line - “at the expense of another group of humans”.

 

[contrifan32]

Listened to a podcast interview with Medhi, who makes some great arguments regarding Biden and lack of action to push for a ceasefire. He wrote an article on the topic

Biden can end the bombing of Gaza right now. Here’s how

The difference is the President who made that call.

 

[contrifan32]

i think that definition is a tad outdated.
A more contemporary definition, in my humble opinion, would be
'Zionism is more "Lebensraum fur den Vaterland", plus eradication of the Untermensch'

Spoken like a true antisemitic Robbie

 

[ll74]

The difference is the President who made that call.

The article discusses this.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Spoken like a true antisemitic Robbie

well well well Look who crawled out from under his rock!
Good ole Contrifag and his usual "Errybody who don't agree with Israel's government is anti-Semitic!"

That dog don't hunt anymore, buddy.

Israel is engaging in genocide. They forfeited the right to perpetual victimhood and squandered any goodwill they have with their "kill anything that moves" policy.

We used to hang Nazis for that!

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

‘Humanitarian response in Gaza today is an illusion’: Doctors Without Borders​

Here’s more from MSF’s Secretary General Christopher Lockyear.
“Children who do survive this war will not only bear the visible wounds of traumatic injuries, but the invisible ones too: Those of repeated displacements, constant fear and witnessing family members literally dismembered before their eyes. These psychological injuries have led children as young as five to tell us that they would prefer to die.
“The humanitarian response in Gaza today is an illusion. A convenient illusion that perpetuates a narrative that this war is being waged in line with international laws.”

Given in the ICJ hearings.

The appalling behaviour of Israel the state will not be easily forgot or forgiven. I think they are doing their utmost to ruin the possibility of peace. It’s astonishing that people stand up for this.

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

Spoken like a true antisemitic Robbie

An appalling libel, given the facts on the ground.

So you’re pro genocide then?

 

[RobDownSouth]

My my my The New York Times, which gave the Israeli military public relations office a major propaganda coup with the now-discredited "Hamas RAPE RAPE RAPE Israeli women!" scaremongering, admit outsourcing the content of the article to partisan journalists, one of whom have a long documented history of wishing to see Gaza destroyed.

So much for "fair and balanced".

https://twitter.com/x/status/1761249450998022442

This person is also pushing the "Hamas are SUB-HUMAN" meme hard.....seem familiar?

Let's check the scoreboard:
NO "40 beheaded babies"
NO "Babies cooked in electric ovens"
NO "Systemic rape of Israeli women"

In other news, Gaza "rape/torture porn" perpetrated by Israeli soldiers is a big hit in Israel.

Also one Israeli soldier keeps updating his Hebrew-language equivalent of Tinder dating profile with sexy lingerie of every Gazan house he loots on a daily basis. I'll see if I can find that article (it's written in Hebrew). He's a minor celebrity now.

 

[RobDownSouth]

An Israeli soldier shows his fiancee some of his war loot he has managed to snag

https://twitter.com/x/status/1761469148901650545

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

Cannot comprehend this being the “most moral army in the world”.

 

[ll74]

Cannot comprehend this being the “most moral army in the world”.

What does that mean?

 

[Deleted member 6736302]

What does that mean?

Israeli political figures have used this to describe the IDF repeatedly throughout the conflict.

I can’t equate that given the obvious and videoed breaches that now number in the thousands.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Israeli Genocide Force celebrates relief food supplies arriving in Gaza for refugees by....
Crushing it with tracked vehicles and sending musical footage to Israeli news services.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1761465163847479471

 

[Lazaran]

Israeli Genocide Force celebrates relief food supplies arriving in Gaza for refugees by....
Crushing it with tracked vehicles and sending musical footage to Israeli news services.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1761465163847479471

God Damn you’re gullible.



I suppose you believe the Hamas animals October 7th tale, murder, torture, and kidnapping operation was just a bunch of tourists visiting Israel from Gaza??!

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

And Israel hasn’t done what Anat soooo…








God Damn you’re gullible.



I suppose you believe the Hamas animals October 7th tale, murder, torture, and kidnapping operation was just a bunch of tourists visiting Israel from Gaza??!

Sadly Rob’s antisemitism is shared by a growing number of Democrats

 

[Lazaran]

Sadly Rob’s antisemitism is shared by a growing number of Democrats

^
(Quoted for posterity, stupidity, irony, and hypocrisy,)

The "Jews will not replace us" REPUBLICANS have the Democrats who support the Palestinian cause (not the Hamas animals) and want Israel to cease hostilities, but who are NOT textbook anti-Semites, beat by a mile and a half.



BabyBoobs

 

[ll74]

Biden says a deal during Ramadan is close.

Israel and Hamas both say, "not so fast". It looks like the sticking point is a long term agreement that Hamas is asking for that would move towards normalization.

Gaza's warring enemies cautious over truce talks after Biden says deal nearing​

 

[RobDownSouth]

Out of control Israeli military randomly opens fire on Gazan refugee camp, 100 dead, 700 wounded.
CNN calls this a "chaotic incident". Many observers say this is reminiscent of the My Lai Chaotic Incident back in Vietnam
I, for one, do Nazi the resemblance.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1763187530474655880

 

[RobDownSouth]

It’s not antisemitic to criticize Israel, but equating Israel to the Nazis definitely is.

I disagree. The Israelis are far outpacing the Nazis in their callous disregard for civilian casualties and damage.

The Israeli army is now livestreaming their looting and shooting....and the civilians back home in Israel are loving it.

This is not the behavior of civilized people.