Wat's Guns-N-Stuff Thread

[IrezumiKiss]

You've reached the rorbags level of stupid insults.

Show 'em how it's done, Matlock!
If clapbacks were skills with The Force, you'd be that kid dancing with his broom on Canto Bight at the end of Last Jedi.

 

[HisArpy]

I'm really sorry you are so fucking stupid that's what you got out of what I said.

Let me type slower for you so maybe you can comprehend this explanation. First of all, as long as aggressors exist weapons will need to be made to fight them. In the thing called the arms race whoever innovates and creates better weapons usually wins. My point on the emotions is neither Kalashnikov nor Einstein had to be involved in the development of the weapons they created. The AK-47 was designed to kill the enemy as was the atomic bomb. It is delusional to believe otherwise and to try and claim guilt later when you knew what you were building seems ridiculous and hypocritical.

Don't forget about dynamite. Originally invented and developed for civilian use, it was quickly adapted for use by the military.

Thus the paradigm that if something is, or can be made to be, suitable for violence it will be used for violence and the only defense is to be capable of inflicting more violence on the assailant(s). Removing the ability to defend against the violence only results in mass death and casualties.

Which is what we see in mass shooting where the victims are disarmed by anti-gun policies and ideologies. Only those too stupid to understand this principle, or those invested in that specific outcome, support the disarmament of the victims of aggression.

 

[coati]

I like military weapons because of their part in history. Sad you can only see what your masters tell you to see.

Actually, you said earlier in this thread that you might violate laws and use those military weapons if "the country falters and goes away from what it is based on and its foundations."

That's where your Hobby Lobby gun-stuff-fun-stuff cover story falls by the wayside. The problem with some gun-nuts like you and Mr. Words-of-Steel Wat_Tyler is your implied threat that those weapons will be used if you feel that the country veers from your opinion of where it needs to be.

Whether you intend it or not, that implied threat causes some mentally unstable people to think it's noble or "patriotic" to lash out and kill people when things aren't going their way. Talk of armed revolt coupled with seminars on military weapons is a recipe for inspiring lone-wolf acts. If you want to change things in a democracy, become an activist in the electoral process in the real world, not a keyboard militia-man in the virtual world.

 

[coati]

Don't forget about dynamite. Originally invented and developed for civilian use, it was quickly adapted for use by the military.

Thus the paradigm that if something is, or can be made to be, suitable for violence it will be used for violence and the only defense is to be capable of inflicting more violence on the assailant(s). Removing the ability to defend against the violence only results in mass death and casualties.

Which is what we see in mass shooting where the victims are disarmed by anti-gun policies and ideologies. Only those too stupid to understand this principle, or those invested in that specific outcome, support the disarmament of the victims of aggression.

 

[coati]

Which is what we see in mass shooting where the victims are disarmed by anti-gun policies and ideologies. Only those too stupid to understand this principle, or those invested in that specific outcome, support the disarmament of the victims of aggression.

The over-proliferation of rapid-fire guns in society is obviously not the path to preventing mass shootings. The stupid ones are those still clinging to that theory.

 

[Bray123]

The numbers of mass shootings in Europe caused by anti-gun policies and ideologies proves the point. Only those too stupid to understand this would support the disarmament of the over-aggressive. Right?

Except that there aren't any mass shootings i Europe...

 

[Bn2f]

Actually, you said earlier in this thread that you might violate laws and use those military weapons if "the country falters and goes away from what it is based on and its foundations."

That's where your Hobby Lobby gun-stuff-fun-stuff cover story falls by the wayside. The problem with some gun-nuts like you and Mr. Words-of-Steel Wat_Tyler is your implied threat that those weapons will be used if you feel that the country veers from your opinion of where it needs to be.

Whether you intend it or not, that implied threat causes some mentally unstable people to think it's noble or "patriotic" to lash out and kill people when things aren't going their way. Talk of armed revolt coupled with seminars on military weapons is a recipe for inspiring lone-wolf acts. If you want to change things in a democracy, become an activist in the electoral process in the real world, not a keyboard militia-man in the virtual world.

 

[Chobham]

I shot my own turkey for T'giving. Sure caused a commotion at the grocery store.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Albert Einstein felt the same way about his involvement with the creation of the atomic bomb. Guilt after the fact instead of not creating these weapons is a wasted emotion only designed as an attempt to clear their conscience and soul before death.

Actually it was Robert Oppenheimer who said that. Einstein actually promoted the idea and wrote a letter to FDR about it. Einstein's quote on it is actually pretty horrifying.

I do not believe that civilization will be wiped out in a war fought with the atomic bomb. Perhaps two thirds of the people of the earth might be killed, but enough men capable of thinking, and enough books, would be left to start again, and civilization could be restored.

But you were close, you had the right weapon!!

 

[TrailerHitch]

Wow.
Why am I getting such hate?
Sheez Louise. Your text was confusing the way it was worded.
So Einstein and Kalashnikov were idiots. Got it.

Because your being obtuse is boring as fuck, that's why. My text was clear as a bell.

No, Einstein and Kalashnikov were both geniuses in their own fields. I am in no way questioning that fact. What I am saying is their need to renounce the death causing capabilities like they weren't aware when they were devising these weapons is pandering to a potential afterlife seeking redemption.

Got it now or will more of your idiocy follow?

 

[TrailerHitch]

Actually, you said earlier in this thread that you might violate laws and use those military weapons if "the country falters and goes away from what it is based on and its foundations."

That's where your Hobby Lobby gun-stuff-fun-stuff cover story falls by the wayside. The problem with some gun-nuts like you and Mr. Words-of-Steel Wat_Tyler is your implied threat that those weapons will be used if you feel that the country veers from your opinion of where it needs to be.

Whether you intend it or not, that implied threat causes some mentally unstable people to think it's noble or "patriotic" to lash out and kill people when things aren't going their way. Talk of armed revolt coupled with seminars on military weapons is a recipe for inspiring lone-wolf acts. If you want to change things in a democracy, become an activist in the electoral process in the real world, not a keyboard militia-man in the virtual world.

You do so love to see yourself in type. But you twist anything that anyone else writes to fit your agenda. Which makes you completely irrelevant.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Picked up a standing rib roast for tomorrow's repast, and thanks be to Allah, it was already killed.


The December rifle has arrived. Now it'll be scope shopping time.


I prefer the AR to the AK, but an AK will do in a pinch.


Firearms are still legal, and still have triggers.

 

[Chobham]

Picked up a standing rib roast for tomorrow's repast, and thanks be to Allah, it was already killed.


The December rifle has arrived. Now it'll be scope shopping time.


I prefer the AR to the AK, but an AK will do in a pinch.


Firearms are still legal, and still have triggers.

What'd you get this time?

 

[Wat_Tyler]

What'd you get this time?

AR10. Flat top. Heavy barrel. Supposed match two-stage trigger. 20" barrel.


I'm thinking a decent 6x or 8x scope. Fewer moving parts. I don't want to spend 2x the cost of the rifle for glass.

 

[HisArpy]

The over-proliferation of rapid-fire guns in society is obviously not the path to preventing mass shootings. The stupid ones are those still clinging to that theory.

Like I said, only those too stupid to understand, or those invested in the outcome, promote the disarmament of victims.

It's not the gun, it's you that's the problem here. That you don't understand and refuse to acknowledge it places you squarely into the stupid matrix with no way out.

Rail and rage all you want to, but it won't change the fact that you're the problem. When you finally tip over the edge into social insanity and violence, those who are willing to stand up against you will be there to answer the call.

 

[Chobham]

AR10. Flat top. Heavy barrel. Supposed match two-stage trigger. 20" barrel.


I'm thinking a decent 6x or 8x scope. Fewer moving parts. I don't want to spend 2x the cost of the rifle for glass.

I hear you on the glass. Take a look at Vortex and I'd look at a variable power, 3x9 maybe. They have some economical offerings and Optics Planet has excellent sales prices from time to time. I have a Diamondback in 6x24 FFP with the Venom reticle that I picked up for cheap on a sale before the Wuhan Flu. The glass is sharp and the tracking is outstanding. I've got it mounted on the 300 WM and the recoil hasn't bothered it a bit. Lifetime guarantee as well.

 

[Chobham]

Like I said, only those too stupid to understand, or those invested in the outcome, promote the disarmament of victims.

It's not the gun, it's you that's the problem here. That you don't understand and refuse to acknowledge it places you squarely into the stupid matrix with no way out.

Rail and rage all you want to, but it won't change the fact that you're the problem. When you finally tip over the edge into social insanity and violence, those who are willing to stand up against you will be there to answer the call.

You're pissing in the wind. He/she/it isn't going to change. In the meantime the courts are busily dismantling all the bullshit gun control laws.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I hear you on the glass. Take a look at Vortex and I'd look at a variable power, 3x9 maybe. They have some economical offerings and Optics Planet has excellent sales prices from time to time. I have a Diamondback in 6x24 FFP with the Venom reticle that I picked up for cheap on a sale before the Wuhan Flu. The glass is sharp and the tracking is outstanding. I've got it mounted on the 300 WM and the recoil hasn't bothered it a bit. Lifetime guarantee as well.

Found a 6 x 18, which should be more'n enough for a .308. I'll give it a go.


I'd like to consider a 6.5 Creedmoor if I add another caliber. You know, for shits-n-giggles. Probably the AR platform.


We'll see. Not this year.

 

[icanhelp1]

I hear you on the glass. Take a look at Vortex and I'd look at a variable power, 3x9 maybe. They have some economical offerings and Optics Planet has excellent sales prices from time to time. I have a Diamondback in 6x24 FFP with the Venom reticle that I picked up for cheap on a sale before the Wuhan Flu. The glass is sharp and the tracking is outstanding. I've got it mounted on the 300 WM and the recoil hasn't bothered it a bit. Lifetime guarantee as well.

I used to have a redfield 3x9 variable on my 30:06 *loved it* could pick the balls off a mosquito at a hundred yards lol

 

[Chobham]

Build a good 25-06 bolt gun.

25-06 vs 6.5 Creed.

 

[Chobham]

I used to have a redfield 3x9 variable on my 30:06 *loved it* could pick the balls off a mosquito at a hundred yards lol

I've still got a 4x12 Redfield range finder that that I picked up before Redfield decided to compete with the Japanese cut rates. Redfield is still trying to recover from that marketing decision.

 

[coati]

Rail and rage all you want to, but it won't change the fact that you're the problem. When you finally tip over the edge into social insanity and violence, those who are willing to stand up against you will be there to answer the call.

The threat of social insanity is coming from the Deplorable militia wannabes, not from the rest of society.

Bullshit all you want about the Deplorables being the "victims". The majority of America is not buying that crap. Prosecution of insurrectionists is just beginning.

Guns did not prevent the J6 crowd from going to jail, Keyboard Warrior.

 

[Kioti3510]

The threat of social insanity is coming from the Deplorable militia wannabes, not from the rest of society.

Bullshit all you want about the Deplorables being the "victims". The majority of America is not buying that crap. Prosecution of insurrectionists is just beginning.

Guns did not prevent the J6 crowd from going to jail, Keyboard Warrior.

The only gun used on January 6 was by a capitol police officer that shot an unarmed woman protestor to death.

 

[Chobham]

The only gun used on January 6 was by a capitol police officer that shot an unarmed woman protestor to death.

Who's the enemy?

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Build a good 25-06 bolt gun.

25-06 vs 6.5 Creed.

Watched it. I think he makes the case for the 6.5.


I always likes the .260 and the Creedmoor is the same only different. Besides, it's available.


In semi-auto . . . .