Wat's Guns-N-Stuff Thread

[Chobham]

Being an American Indian, I kind of disagree.

While the musket certainly played a role in our former way of life (we were not defeated, we are still here, still contributing to society, just in a different, morphed way), I believe the axe was a much more prominent reason for the shift. It felled forests, and caused the shift from hunter-gathering to agriculturally based life. From building ships, houses, farmsteads and industry, it changed EVERYTHING, and the musket was only used as a means to allow the use of the axe to be used. I am not alone on this assessment as Robert Pike, in his 1965 book on New England Forests states this very thing, and I agree fully with him upon reflection of it.

What really felled my forefathers was disease. Giving us blankets teeming with Smallpox did not help, but everything from alcoholism to scarlet fever knocked us down. Not that it really matters, change was inevitable, and I am not seduced into thinking I would be better off today wearing deer skin and living in longhouses. No thanks...

But while the musket had its role, but I think the swing of the axe is what tamed the North American continent the most. And to some degree, disease

I also recommend to you "Storms Brewed In Other Men's Worlds" by Elizabeth John. That work covers the interaction of the Spanish and French with the Indians in the Southwest from 1540-1795. The axe played no role where there were no great forests, but the musket, and especially disease, did. While Small Pox loomed large it was only one of the many diseases that afflicted the Indian. Diphtheria, Yellow Fever, Malaria, and others were all in the mix.

 

[icanhelp1]

lol she can barely hit a stationary target from 25', wtf would she do against one moving and shooting back???

I’ll bet if you standing in place of that target you wouldn’t be here today. It appeared to me she was dead on!

 

[JoePepsiCo]

https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/article/what-do-fbi-statistics-really-say-about-gunfights/

As we know, knives are far more dangerous than guns to your health.

 

[Bn2f]

2 doofus’s with back to back post calling in to serious doubt their perceptive abilities. Anyone else here want to try for the trifecta? tell me again, how you should own a gun when tying your shoe would seem like a monumental task?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I’ll bet if you (were) standing in place of that target you wouldn’t be here today.

That's my point Ican't people don't just stand there, they move, and in some cases shoot back.

It appeared to me she was dead on!

I think you're mixing up good shooting with pretty women, cause If you think that is an example of "great shooting"....*chuckles*

 

[Bn2f]

I love love love this. Coati, bray, fuzzy all us meek sheep venture daily into the big bad lions den of you bad ass, gun owners. And we kick your asses.
Daily. Shut down your post for hours at a time. Make you run away scared like the little bitches that you are. I would take greater pleasure in this, but I know that somewhere today in America someone is going to die needlessly because of a weapons grade gun. I hope we serve as an inspiration to others to not fear you and come in here and wipe the floor with your dumb asses too!

 

[icanhelp1]

That's my point Ican't people don't just stand there, they move, and in some cases shoot back.

I think you're mixing up good shooting with pretty women, cause If you think that is an example of "great shooting"....*chuckles*

Your comments, like usual, lack substance. How can you qualify your statement “she can barely hit a stationary target from 25’”. Did you actually walk to the target and examine it for hits. How does her performance engaging a still target provide any evidence whatsoever as to how well she would do engaging a moving target. You’re a cad!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

How can you qualify your statement “she can barely hit a stationary target from 25’”.

By the backstop.

Did you actually walk to the target and examine it for hits.

Did you?

How does her performance engaging a still target provide any evidence whatsoever as to how well she would do engaging a moving target. You’re a cad!

Awwww I think ican'ts in love with the blonde chic. Look at his whiteknighting...must have been from the camera layout for her prone position.

 

[coati]

My December bit, bought on a sweet Black Friday sale, could be in today.

^^^and, Wat's naughty bits are tingling in anticipation!

"The Joy of Ammosexuality"

 

[TrailerHitch]

The AK-47, officially known as the Avtomat Kalashnikova, chambered in the 7.62x39mm round. This rifle was designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov and released for use in late 1947. It has been in continuous use worldwide ever since. It is incredibly reliable and there are stories of one being dug out of the mud in Viet Nam after having been buried for years. It was taken to a river where the mud was washed off the slide was racked and it fired. The battle rages and will rage eternally which is better the AK-47 or the AR-15. There is no doubt that the AR-15 is more accurate to longer ranges, but there is also no doubt that the AK-47 will continue to operate in harsh environments with less cleaning than the AR-15.

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The AK-47 in the hands of its inventor Mikhail Kalashnikov.

 

[coati]

The AK-47, officially known as the Avtomat Kalashnikova, chambered in the 7.62x39mm round. This rifle was designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov and released for use in late 1947. It has been in continuous use worldwide ever since. It is incredibly reliable and there are stories of one being dug out of the mud in Viet Nam after having been buried for years. It was taken to a river where the mud was washed off the slide was racked and it fired. The battle rages and will rage eternally which is better the AK-47 or the AR-15. There is no doubt that the AR-15 is more accurate to longer ranges, but there is also no doubt that the AK-47 will continue to operate in harsh environments with less cleaning than the AR-15.

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The AK-47 in the hands of its inventor Mikhail Kalashnikov.

^^^Local sovereign incels compare notes with their Russian counterparts in preparation for what they hope will happen if the MAGAt coup is unsuccessful in 2024.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

The AK-47, officially known as the Avtomat Kalashnikova, chambered in the 7.62x39mm round. This rifle was designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov and released for use in late 1947. It has been in continuous use worldwide ever since. It is incredibly reliable and there are stories of one being dug out of the mud in Viet Nam after having been buried for years. It was taken to a river where the mud was washed off the slide was racked and it fired. The battle rages and will rage eternally which is better the AK-47 or the AR-15. There is no doubt that the AR-15 is more accurate to longer ranges, but there is also no doubt that the AK-47 will continue to operate in harsh environments with less cleaning than the AR-15.

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The AK-47 in the hands of its inventor Mikhail Kalashnikov.

Don't these rifles burn the hands of American patriots when they hold it or something? Like sunlight to vampires?

I'll never blaspheme my palms with these Russkie mechs when defending American sovereignty. Nosiree Bob.

Russian titties, however, hrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmgggggggh

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOjYBgrVsAsZG-q.jpg

Wat knows what I'm talkin' 'bout. He'd defect to Stalingrad for them bodacious bolt-ons, ummmmm hmmmmm.

 

[Bn2f]

The AK-47, officially known as the Avtomat Kalashnikova, chambered in the 7.62x39mm round. This rifle was designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov and released for use in late 1947. It has been in continuous use worldwide ever since. It is incredibly reliable and there are stories of one being dug out of the mud in Viet Nam after having been buried for years. It was taken to a river where the mud was washed off the slide was racked and it fired. The battle rages and will rage eternally which is better the AK-47 or the AR-15. There is no doubt that the AR-15 is more accurate to longer ranges, but there is also no doubt that the AK-47 will continue to operate in harsh environments with less cleaning than the AR-15.

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The AK-47 in the hands of its inventor Mikhail Kalashnikov.

In January 2014, a letter that Kalashnikov wrote six months before his death, he stated that he was suffering "spiritual pain" about whether he was responsible for the deaths caused by the weapons he created. Translated from the published letter he states, "I keep having the same unsolved question: if my rifle claimed people's lives, then can it be that I... a Christian and an Orthodox believer, was to blame for their deaths?".

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...nikov-suffered-remorse-over-rifle-he-invented

 

[Bn2f]

Mr. Kalashnikov, I feel for your worried soul. I only wish that an American NRA member could’ve been by your feeble side, lovingly stroking your hand, shepherding your spirit into the hereafter with the calming words, “No, sir, it’s not the guns that kill people. It’s NOT the guns.”


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[TrailerHitch]

^^^Local sovereign incels compare notes with their Russian counterparts in preparation for what they hope will happen if the MAGAt coup is unsuccessful in 2024.

You just get stupider and more ridiculous with every post you make. Especially since I am neither a sovereign citizen or an incel like you.

Funny how you chose this Soviet weapon to rail against but failed to notice when I mentioned the Moison Nagant or the Dragunov sniper rifle. Maybe they don't look evil enough to your oh so woke and tender eyes.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Don't these rifles burn the hands of American patriots when they hold it or something?

My response is I wonder if those BILLIONS of dollars of American made weaponry burn the hands of the Afghani terrorists that now use them against us and our allies.

In reply to your comment above, no they don't burn my hands. They feel nice and comfortable holding and firing an AK-47.

 

[TrailerHitch]

In January 2014, a letter that Kalashnikov wrote six months before his death, he stated that he was suffering "spiritual pain" about whether he was responsible for the deaths caused by the weapons he created. Translated from the published letter he states, "I keep having the same unsolved question: if my rifle claimed people's lives, then can it be that I... a Christian and an Orthodox believer, was to blame for their deaths?".

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...nikov-suffered-remorse-over-rifle-he-invented

Albert Einstein felt the same way about his involvement with the creation of the atomic bomb. Guilt after the fact instead of not creating these weapons is a wasted emotion only designed as an attempt to clear their conscience and soul before death.

At the time the AK-47 was designed, near the end of WWII the Soviets, and Kalashnikov only had one thought in mind defeating the Germans. This weapon would have had a distinct impact and perhaps shortened the war. Essentially the same can be said for the atomic bomb, Allied forces estimated 1,000,000 allied casualties and perhaps double that in Japanese military and civilian lives. The atomic bomb, though horrific, more than likely saved over 2 million lives.

 

[Bn2f]

Albert Einstein felt the same way about his involvement with the creation of the atomic bomb. Guilt after the fact instead of not creating these weapons is a wasted emotion only designed as an attempt to clear their conscience and soul before death.

What are you saying? Your text here is vague and confusing. Weapons shouldn’t be made? Emotions are a waste?

 

[coati]

What are you saying? Your text here is vague and confusing. Weapons shouldn’t be made? Emotions are a waste?

You'll have to forgive Hitch. His mind is distracted with a customer on Aisle 12 at Lowes.

Let's just leave it at this: Hitch loves military gunz cuz they give him a sense of power and control.

 

[HisArpy]

You'll have to forgive Hitch. His mind is distracted with a customer on Aisle 12 at Lowes.

Let's just leave it at this: Hitch loves military gunz cuz they give him a sense of power and control.

You've reached the rorbags level of stupid insults.

 

[LLCox]

The AK-47, officially known as the Avtomat Kalashnikova, chambered in the 7.62x39mm round. This rifle was designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov and released for use in late 1947. It has been in continuous use worldwide ever since. It is incredibly reliable and there are stories of one being dug out of the mud in Viet Nam after having been buried for years. It was taken to a river where the mud was washed off the slide was racked and it fired. The battle rages and will rage eternally which is better the AK-47 or the AR-15. There is no doubt that the AR-15 is more accurate to longer ranges, but there is also no doubt that the AK-47 will continue to operate in harsh environments with less cleaning than the AR-15.

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The AK-47 in the hands of its inventor Mikhail Kalashnikov.

Only an Arab can break an AK47.

 

[TrailerHitch]

What are you saying? Your text here is vague and confusing. Weapons shouldn’t be made? Emotions are a waste?

I'm really sorry you are so fucking stupid that's what you got out of what I said.

Let me type slower for you so maybe you can comprehend this explanation. First of all, as long as aggressors exist weapons will need to be made to fight them. In the thing called the arms race whoever innovates and creates better weapons usually wins. My point on the emotions is neither Kalashnikov nor Einstein had to be involved in the development of the weapons they created. The AK-47 was designed to kill the enemy as was the atomic bomb. It is delusional to believe otherwise and to try and claim guilt later when you knew what you were building seems ridiculous and hypocritical.

 

[TrailerHitch]

You'll have to forgive Hitch. His mind is distracted with a customer on Aisle 12 at Lowes.

Let's just leave it at this: Hitch loves military gunz cuz they give him a sense of power and control.

Aisle 12? Who the fuck would want to work in aisle 12? That's blinds and paint.

Trying to insult me about my part-time job while you sit home and eat government cheese, crappy rice, generic peanut butter, and rancid butter seems a wee bit sad really.

I like military weapons because of their part in history. Sad you can only see what your masters tell you to see.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Only an Arab can break an AK47.

Well that is excellent news to my ears!

 

[Bn2f]

I'm really sorry you are so fucking stupid that's what you got out of what I said.

Let me type slower for you so maybe you can comprehend this explanation. First of all, as long as aggressors exist weapons will need to be made to fight them. In the thing called the arms race whoever innovates and creates better weapons usually wins. My point on the emotions is neither Kalashnikov nor Einstein had to be involved in the development of the weapons they created. The AK-47 was designed to kill the enemy as was the atomic bomb. It is delusional to believe otherwise and to try and claim guilt later when you knew what you were building seems ridiculous and hypocritical.

Wow.
Why am I getting such hate?
Sheez Louise. Your text was confusing the way it was worded.
So Einstein and Kalashnikov were idiots. Got it.