Israel/Hamas PB Tribal Fight

[Rightguide]

Your ascription is noted and discarded.

Your cowardice is underscored as well.

 

[ll74]

you are evil

I'm not bigoted and I want peace and security for all.

I don't treat discount human beings.

That is you.

 

[ll74]

Your cowardice is underscored as well.

You're delusional. Go whine about the left.on your own threads.

 

[Rightguide]

"When you fight an arsonist, you don't do so with fire" - Ben Rhodes , Pod Save the World https://pca.st/episode/54879ec1-0710-4061-b7f2-60dd1c38c1e7

Ben Rhodes has obviously never faced a forest fire.

 

[ll74]

This is what they have always done, notwithstanding your pretended ignorance of that fact.

They are going to take down the headquarters below the hospital, collapse the tunnel system in detail, and kill every member of Hamas and Hamas supporters they encounter. Then they will go after its enablers in Iran wherever they may be. Just as they did after Munich.

That's literally the only comment you've had here that is relevant. Congratulations.

 

[Rightguide]

The House passed an Israel aide bill and the Senate killed it last night. Could have been on the president’s desk this morning.

Obama's people in the White House probably told Schumer to kill it.

 

[CenSore]

I'm not bigoted and I want peace and security for all.

I don't treat discount human beings.

That is you.

yes

one side defines PEACE as KILLING the other side

so your wants are meaningless

and if one side were to adopt your POV they would be dead

 

[Rightguide]

You're delusional. Go whine about the left.on your own threads.

You're the delusional one. You were delusional on Russiagate, Crossfire Hurricane, FISA Court abuse, FBI corruption, on the law, Second Amendment, Charlottesville, the Kavanaugh nomination, The intelligence letter, the Constitution, Presidential classification matters, the list goes on but I tire of your general incompetence.

And to your whine about this thread, unlike others you have never put a paragraph of critical thought into any of your posts in a thread of mine. So you only reap what you sow.

 

[cermin]

You're the delusional one. You were delusional on Russiagate, Crossfire Hurricane, FISA Court abuse, FBI corruption, on the law, Second Amendment, Charlottesville, the Kavanaugh nomination, The intelligence letter, the Constitution, Presidential classification matters, the list goes on but I tire of your general incompetence.

And to your whine about this thread, unlike others you have never put a paragraph of critical thought into any of your posts in a thread of mine. So you only reap what you sow.

not delusional

he needs to contradict everything that makes his side

look like the EVIL they are

like so many here

oh

and

A LIAR

and sticks with the LIES even after shown he LIED

 

[Rightguide]

not delusional

he needs to contradict everything that makes his side

look like the EVIL they are

like so many here

oh

and

A LIAR

and sticks with the LIES even after shown he LIED

The left supports Hamas, and it is clear they do not support America.

 

[cermin]

To the pretend

I CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN OF GAZA crowd

(aka, I want dead jews)

where were you when Syria killed hundreds of thousands

when Saudi Arabia and UAE killed hundreds of thousands

when Libya killed tens of thousands

OF MUSLIMS?


Nowhere

Cause like EVERYONE else, no one gives a shit about DEAD MUSLIMS

its just you hate and want JEWS dead

be honest

 

[SimonDoom]

I want to see lasting peace in the Middle East. I want to see the Palestinian Arabs, as well as the Israelis, have a full, meaningful right of self-determination and self-governance.

But how can it possibly happen as long as Arabs and their sympathizers deny the right of Israel to exist as an independent sovereign state, and are dedicated to using violence to oppose its right to exist? This is what they have done, without let up, since 1947. Even today in debates in the US and Europe when they chant, "From the river to the sea." That means wanting to abolish Israel. It means consolidating all of the land of greater Palestine under Arab Muslim control. Hamas is crystal clear about this. That's never, ever, ever going to happen. Israel has no reason to cease its measures to provide greater security for itself, like attacking Hamas in Gaza or settling the West Bank, until the Arabs give up the desire to destroy Israel and fold it into a greater Arab Muslim state.

 

[ll74]

You're the delusional one. You were delusional on Russiagate, Crossfire Hurricane, FISA Court abuse, FBI corruption, on the law, Second Amendment, Charlottesville, the Kavanaugh nomination, The intelligence letter, the Constitution, Presidential classification matters, the list goes on but I tire of your general incompetence.

And to your whine about this thread, unlike others you have never put a paragraph of critical thought into any of your posts in a thread of mine. So you only reap what you sow.

You literally just group people into one singular view without any relevance to their actual views.....there's a word for that

 

[cermin]

https://twitchy.com/brettt/2023/11/14/house-members-get-a-screening-of-hamas-atrocities-n2389815

 

[ll74]

I want to see lasting peace in the Middle East. I want to see the Palestinian Arabs, as well as the Israelis, have a full, meaningful right of self-determination and self-governance.

But how can it possibly happen as long as Arabs and their sympathizers deny the right of Israel to exist as an independent sovereign state, and are dedicated to using violence to oppose its right to exist? This is what they have done, without let up, since 1947. Even today in debates in the US and Europe when they chant, "From the river to the sea." That means wanting to abolish Israel. It means consolidating all of the land of greater Palestine under Arab Muslim control. Hamas is crystal clear about this. That's never, ever, ever going to happen. Israel has no reason to cease its measures to provide greater security for itself, like attacking Hamas in Gaza or settling the West Bank, until the Arabs give up the desire to destroy Israel and fold it into a greater Arab Muslim state.

It's all about leadership and letting people seeking peace have the loudest voices. As the quote I mentioned earlier said.....peace requires both sides to be motivated to pursue it while war only requires one.

The thing that people seem to be stuck on is that it's impossible because of *insert opposing side here* rather than acknowledging that it's difficult becaause of *insert opposing side here* but we can do it with time and proper effort.

I've heard people on here saying that Israel does not have the right to exist (directly and indirectly) and I've heard people in here saying that all Palestinians need to be wiped from the Earth (directly and I directly). These aren't serious people who want peace....people who want peace work towards it

Anyway....thanks for the insightful post. While it was focused on one side, it wasn't overtly so, which is great to see.

 

[DeluxAuto]

You're the delusional one. You were delusional on Russiagate, Crossfire Hurricane, FISA Court abuse, FBI corruption, on the law, Second Amendment, Charlottesville, the Kavanaugh nomination, The intelligence letter, the Constitution, Presidential classification matters, the list goes on but I tire of your general incompetence.

And to your whine about this thread, unlike others you have never put a paragraph of critical thought into any of your posts in a thread of mine. So you only reap what you sow.

Delusional about a hurricane?

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[DeluxAuto]

The left supports Hamas, and it is clear they do not support America.

Who on the "Left" supports HAMAS, Jack?

 

[silky52]

I want to see lasting peace in the Middle East. I want to see the Palestinian Arabs, as well as the Israelis, have a full, meaningful right of self-determination and self-governance.

But how can it possibly happen as long as Arabs and their sympathizers deny the right of Israel to exist as an independent sovereign state, and are dedicated to using violence to oppose its right to exist? This is what they have done, without let up, since 1947. Even today in debates in the US and Europe when they chant, "From the river to the sea." That means wanting to abolish Israel. It means consolidating all of the land of greater Palestine under Arab Muslim control. Hamas is crystal clear about this. That's never, ever, ever going to happen. Israel has no reason to cease its measures to provide greater security for itself, like attacking Hamas in Gaza or settling the West Bank, until the Arabs give up the desire to destroy Israel and fold it into a greater Arab Muslim state.

Although I totally appreciate what you have said here, you have made a few errors. First of all, Israel did not attack Hamas-IsIs. They attacked Israel, they perpetrated genocide! They murdered, beheaded, raped and burnt babies, women and families in their beds in the early hours of Saturday, October 7th. You are however totally correct that Hamas-IsIs will not stop until they see Israelis into the sea. Thank you for recognising that very important point.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Your opinion is and never has been, any form of truth. But this thread is for information and background on the Israel/Hamas conflict.

One of the main reasons we laugh at Rightguide and his "elk" (sic) is that 1) he thinks his opinions are equal to established facts and 2) he reserves the exclusive right to determine what constitutes "truth".

 

[RobDownSouth]

Who on the "Left" supports HAMAS, Jack?

Lol...understand the dimunitive mind of Rightguide...
"Me no like Hamas"
"Me no like the Left"
"so....so....Left must like Hamas!"

 

[ll74]

One of the main reasons we laugh at Rightguide and his "elk" (sic) is that 1) he thinks his opinions are equal to established facts and 2) he reserves the exclusive right to determine what constitutes "truth".

Yah, I get his schtick. He has plenty of threads that just blame the left disguised as substantive discussion...and he's not the only one.

In the end, his bias is clear and not needed to be repeated here more than once. It's the same one that BB has.

In this conflict, there seems to be many people who believe the only solution is the elimination of a group of people. I don't accept that...it's lazy and non productive and we need more people in the world who demand more...imo. RG certainly isn't that.

 

[ll74]

not delusional

he needs to contradict everything that makes his side

look like the EVIL they are

like so many here

oh

and

A LIAR

and sticks with the LIES even after shown he LIED

I don't have a side except peace and security for all.

You want dead Palestinians.

 

[Rightguide]

Hamas Using 10-Year-Olds in Terror Attacks​

JAZZ SHAW 11:21 AM on November 14, 2023

One of the primary complaints we hear from the pro-Hamas crowd involves the danger to innocent children and babies during the ongoing fighting in Gaza. “Think of the children!” It’s one of the most common lines of rhetorical attack coming from those advocating a ceasefire and the subsequent defeat of Israel. But new evidence suggests that not all of the children are really that “innocent” when it comes to the Palestinians. The Free Beacon reports this week that videos recorded during the October 7 terror attacks show the Hamas fighters following children into various Israeli neighborhoods. Some of them were as young as ten, and they were laughing and pointing out victims to be murdered or kidnapped. Some young women were also involved. It’s simply shocking.

Eran Smilansky, a 28-year-old potato farmer, watched Gazan children go from house to house in his kibbutz on Oct. 7. Hamas terrorists followed. The boys laughed as the gunmen shot or dragged away Israeli families.

“They were like young, young kids,” said Smilansky, who defended his home from terrorists for more than six hours that day. “They were going in front of the terrorists, laughing with their friends and looking very calm. I remember thinking, What the f***?”

Smilansky was one of a dozen survivors of the Nir Oz massacre who told the Washington Free Beacon they witnessed boys or women from the Gaza Strip looting the kibbutz, helping the armed terrorists, and apparently enjoying themselves. The youngest children were around 10 years old, according to several of the survivors, one of whom provided photographs of some of the women and children he saw.

More here: https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/11/14/hamas-using-10-year-olds-in-terror-attacks-n592340

Hamas (Harvard's heroes) are busy training the next generation to be emotionally desensitized to murderous violence so they can replace what is sure to be dead men walking.

 

[ll74]

Hamas Using 10-Year-Olds in Terror Attacks​

JAZZ SHAW 11:21 AM on November 14, 2023

One of the primary complaints we hear from the pro-Hamas crowd involves the danger to innocent children and babies during the ongoing fighting in Gaza. “Think of the children!” It’s one of the most common lines of rhetorical attack coming from those advocating a ceasefire and the subsequent defeat of Israel. But new evidence suggests that not all of the children are really that “innocent” when it comes to the Palestinians. The Free Beacon reports this week that videos recorded during the October 7 terror attacks show the Hamas fighters following children into various Israeli neighborhoods. Some of them were as young as ten, and they were laughing and pointing out victims to be murdered or kidnapped. Some young women were also involved. It’s simply shocking.

Eran Smilansky, a 28-year-old potato farmer, watched Gazan children go from house to house in his kibbutz on Oct. 7. Hamas terrorists followed. The boys laughed as the gunmen shot or dragged away Israeli families.

“They were like young, young kids,” said Smilansky, who defended his home from terrorists for more than six hours that day. “They were going in front of the terrorists, laughing with their friends and looking very calm. I remember thinking, What the f***?”

Smilansky was one of a dozen survivors of the Nir Oz massacre who told the Washington Free Beacon they witnessed boys or women from the Gaza Strip looting the kibbutz, helping the armed terrorists, and apparently enjoying themselves. The youngest children were around 10 years old, according to several of the survivors, one of whom provided photographs of some of the women and children he saw.

More here: https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/11/14/hamas-using-10-year-olds-in-terror-attacks-n592340

Hamas (Harvard's heroes) are busy training the next generation to be emotionally desensitized to murderous violence so they can replace what is sure to be dead men walking.

As was mentioned earlier, Hamas using people(or children or babies) as human shields is inexcusable.

That does not, however,.excuse Israel of indiscriminately killing anyone in the area.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule35
Per the Geneva Convention

Rule 35. Directing an attack against a zone established to shelter the wounded, the sick and civilians from the effects of hostilities is prohibited

 

[DeluxAuto]

Lol...understand the dimunitive mind of Rightguide...
"Me no like Hamas"
"Me no like the Left"
"so....so....Left must like Hamas!"

He's a very small person with the cognitive function to match.

Even if someone on the Left supports HAMAS, he has no idea who that is or any facts to back him up.