Israel/Hamas PB Tribal Fight

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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/31/7426488/


Based on an UN report

 

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You don't provide documentation....you provide speculation based on your bias which is consistent blame of Israel.

BB does the same in regards to Palestinians.

What great company you have.

I can't help it you don't click on my links

 

[ll74]

I can't help it you don't click on my links

Lol.... right

 

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UN statement: "An entire population is being dehumanized" due to active choices of the Israeli Government.

They (the Israeli Government) simply do not care that innocent women and children are killed. To them...the Palestinian people deserve to die. They see no difference between them and Hamas.

Let's take the same approach here shall we? If you agree with Israel's choices in how they are proceeding...why should we not apply the same approach in this country? Do you support the elimination of all Republicans due to the actions of their leaders? Or how about elimination of "lower" classes? Should only the white Christians remain? Explain to the board...your beliefs.

I will start. Violence only begets more violence. The senseless murder of women and children is never acceptable...even in war. I do not believe we should eliminate those that supported an insurrection. I do not believe our "lower" classes should be eliminated

 

[ll74]

UN statement: "An entire population is being dehumanized" due to active choices of the Israeli Government.

They (the Israeli Government) simply do not care that innocent women and children are killed. To them...the Palestinian people deserve to die. They see no difference between them and Hamas.

Let's take the same approach here shall we? If you agree with Israel's choices in how they are proceeding...why should we not apply the same approach in this country? Do you support the elimination of all Republicans due to the actions of their leaders? Or how about elimination of "lower" classes? Should only the white Christians remain? Explain to the board...your beliefs.

I will start. Violence only begets more violence. The senseless murder of women and children is never acceptable...even in war. I do not believe we should eliminate those that supported an insurrection. I do not believe our "lower" classes should be eliminated

Israel targeting civilians is not acceptable.
Hamas using civilians as shields is not acceptable.
Hama's attack that began this was not acceptable.

Israel has a right to defend itself and to retaliate against Hamas.

Anyone seeking genocide is wrong.

Hamas deserves to be dismantled and its leaders held accountable. They are using sympathy and morality for public sentiment as a weapon against Israel

 

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Prove your point that civilians are being used as human shields. People on the ground say this is not the case. That is not to say it doesn't happen. But numbers never lie. Google number of Hamas in Gaza. Then Google number of Gazan civilians. Divide number of civilians by number of Hamas. Damn...they must be pretty fucking good to "use and control" so many to protect themselves

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/middleeast/israel-gaza-hamas-war-tuesday-intl-hnk/index.html

Anyone with a brain knows Israel is indiscriminately targeting sites used at points of safety...including churches, hospitals, water sources...

War crimes...are war crimes. We...as a country...only have influence over our "allies". If Israel cared...they would move civilians out of a war zone. Since Israel is the occupier...it is on them to act humanely

Anyone not calling out Israel for war crimes...supports the war crimes.

 

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Seed a few DIRTY tactical nukes at the border and forget the Philistines.

 

[ll74]

Prove your point that civilians are being used as human shields. People on the ground say this is not the case. That is not to say it doesn't happen. But numbers never lie. Google number of Hamas in Gaza. Then Google number of Gazan civilians. Divide number of civilians by number of Hamas. Damn...they must be pretty fucking good to "use and control" so many to protect themselves

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/middleeast/israel-gaza-hamas-war-tuesday-intl-hnk/index.html

Anyone with a brain knows Israel is indiscriminately targeting sites used at points of safety...including churches, hospitals, water sources...

War crimes...are war crimes. We...as a country...only have influence over our "allies". If Israel cared...they would move civilians out of a war zone. Since Israel is the occupier...it is on them to act humanely

Anyone not calling out Israel for war crimes...supports the war crimes.

Hamas’s Hostage-Taking Handbook Says to ‘Kill the Difficult Ones’ and Use Hostages as ‘Human Shields’​

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/hamas-hostage-taking-manual/675691/

Biden says Hamas using innocent Gazans as human shields; phones Netanyahu, PA’s Abbas​

https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden...s-as-human-shields-calls-netanyahu-pas-abbas/

Human shields’: Israel grapples with complexity of rescuing Hamas’ hostages​

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/...exity-of-rescuing-hamas-hostages-194857541682

Hamas Uses Western Morality as a Weapon Against Israel | Opinion​

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-uses-western-morality-weapon-against-israel-opinion-1834774

I have called out Israel's actions...specifically their disallowing of humanitarian aid and lack of end game goals publicly known.

The best case scenario for Palestinians is for Hamas to surrender.

 

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And the US is pressuring Israel to be responsible in it's retaliatory action

US says human shields do not ‘lessen’ responsibility of Israel to protect civilians​

https://thehill.com/policy/internat...esponsibility-of-israel-to-protect-civilians/

Note how the US isn't questioning reports of Hamas using civilians as shields. It's common knowledge

“They’re putting rockets and other terrorist infrastructure in civilian areas. That creates an added burden for the Israeli Defense Forces,” he said. “But it does not lessen their responsibility to distinguish between terrorists and innocent civilians and to protect the lives of innocent civilians as they conduct this military operation.”

“That’s true of striking from the air. It is true of going in on the ground, and this is something that we talk about with the Israelis on a daily basis,” he said.

 

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Note how the US isn't questioning reports of Hamas using civilians as shields. It's common knowledge

I know it is difficult...impossible for you...to admit your failures. Of the reported 8000 Palestinians murdered by Israel over the last 18 days...maybe...if you are lucky...800 at tops "may" have been used as "human" shields.

Prove to me...even half of the deaths...were not indiscriminate bombing deaths. You can't. Why? Because we know they were.

The World sees it. The World sees us talking empty words. The World sees us not controlling our puppy dog. It will come to us. Another 9-11. Can't blame them. Poor us...let's get involved in 2 more wars and lose both. Stupid people...make excuses

 

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I know it is difficult...impossible for you...to admit your failures. Of the reported 8000 Palestinians murdered by Israel over the last 18 days...maybe...if you are lucky...800 at tops "may" have been used as "human" shields.

So civilians are being used as human shields, as I said, which is wrong for Hamas to do.

Thanks for confirming.

Prove to me...even half of the deaths...were not indiscriminate bombing deaths. You can't. Why? Because we know they were.

So there's not enough civilian deaths due to being used as human shields.

Got it.

The World sees it. The World sees us talking empty words. The World sees us not controlling our puppy dog. It will come to us. Another 9-11. Can't blame them. Poor us...let's get involved in 2 more wars and lose both. Stupid people...make excuses

Hamas attacked Israel.
Israel is retaliating.
War sucks

I've already criticized Israel multiple times as well as Hamas.

You're a one trick pony and look no different than BB in your "dog fight"

 

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"We were targeting a senior Hamas official" by bombing the refugee camp today. Unfortunately we missed. But it is ok. We are allowed to murder innocent people as long as we "say" we were targeting a senior Hamas official.

This is approved by our OP that thinks it is acceptable to murder anyone as long as it is about the lie of being about Hamas

 

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define innocent

 

[CenSore]

"We were targeting a senior Hamas official" by bombing the refugee camp today. Unfortunately we missed. But it is ok. We are allowed to murder innocent people as long as we "say" we were targeting a senior Hamas official.

This is approved by our OP that thinks it is acceptable to murder anyone as long as it is about the lie of being about Hamas

826 civilians murdered by Hamas identified by Israel Police​

But that OK

RIGHT?

 

[ll74]

"We were targeting a senior Hamas official" by bombing the refugee camp today. Unfortunately we missed. But it is ok. We are allowed to murder innocent people as long as we "say" we were targeting a senior Hamas official.

This is approved by our OP that thinks it is acceptable to murder anyone as long as it is about the lie of being about Hamas

Yes, you support Hamas.

 

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I have no problem with Israel targeting Hamas militants. Israel could do as Egypt asked...and moved the women and children into the desert to prevent bloodshed of innocents. Israel refused. Why? Because their goal isn't about saving the Palestinians. It is about eradication. If Israel moved them...they would have to supply food and water. Way easier to let them die...and blame it on being used as shields.

Egypt correctly pointed out...if they allowed the women and children to leave into Egypt...Israel would never allow them back.

 

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Yes, you support Hamas.

Nice try. Unlike you...I support humanity.

 

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I have no problem with Israel targeting Hamas militants. Israel could do as Egypt asked...and moved the women and children into the desert to prevent bloodshed of innocents. Israel refused. Why? Because their goal isn't about saving the Palestinians. It is about eradication. If Israel moved them...they would have to supply food and water. Way easier to let them die...and blame it on being used as shields.

Egypt correctly pointed out...if they allowed the women and children to leave into Egypt...Israel would never allow them back.

And I've criticized Israel for their blocking of refugees and humanitarian aid.

The.citizens are being used as shields...regardless of what Israel says...it's the simple truth...Hamas wants their fellow citizens to die.....so they can gain support from more people like you.

 

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define innocent

People not involved in the fighting/war are innocent.

 

[ll74]

I have no problem with Israel targeting Hamas militants. Israel could do as Egypt asked...and moved the women and children into the desert to prevent bloodshed of innocents. Israel refused. Why? Because their goal isn't about saving the Palestinians. It is about eradication. If Israel moved them...they would have to supply food and water. Way easier to let them die...and blame it on being used as shields.

Egypt correctly pointed out...if they allowed the women and children to leave into Egypt...Israel would never allow them back.

And there is truly no doubt that the current escalation started with the attack by Has on October 7. You failing to recognize and admit that is your own issue.

 

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And there is truly no doubt that the current escalation started with the attack by Has on October 7. You failing to recognize and admit that is your own issue.

No one denies what Hamas did. However...that does not OK war crimes against innocent women and children. Except.. for.people...worms like you

 

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No one denies what Hamas did. However...that does not OK war crimes against innocent women and children. Except.. for.people...worms like you

So you agree that Hamas started this shit. Glad you confirmed.

I've never said it was ok to attack civilians. That includes men,.women and children.

 

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No one denies what Hamas did. However...that does not OK war crimes against innocent women and children. Except.. for.people...worms like you

Palestinians voted for Hamas knowing full well that putting Hamas in power was accepting the mission to take Israel out. Don’t make Palestinians as this completely innocent group, they are complicit to what’s happening to them today. Hamas using Palestinians as human shields is unfortunate but not an uncommon tactic used by Islamic extremism. They don’t value life like western civilization. Hamas has set up roadblocks to stop people from exiting. You have to do what you have to do to survive.

Over 500 Somalis died in Black Hawk down because terrorist groups used Somalis as human shields, over a thousand injured.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/jan/26/israel1


Figures from Palestinian officials tonight confirmed Hamas's shock win in the Palestinian parliamentary election over the once-dominant Fatah party.

Polls had predicted a coalition between the two parties as the most likely outcome of the vote, but a surprise surge in support for the Islamists took a party that calls for the destruction of the state of Israel into power.


The preliminary count put Hamas on 76 seats to Fatah's 43 in the 132 seat chamber. The result could complicate hopes of a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians. George Bush said the United States would not deal with a Hamas-led government unless the party recognised Israel's right to exist.

As the scale of the Fatah defeat became apparent, its officials conceded defeat and the Palestinian prime minister, Ahmed Qureia, and his cabinet submitted their resignations. "This is the choice of the people. It should be respected," Mr Qureia told reporters.

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/jan/26/israel1

No matter how many times you post this, it doesn't demonstrate anything...unless you can tell me that you'd be ok with Obama still as President

 

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So you agree that Hamas started this shit. Glad you confirmed.

I've never said it was ok to attack civilians. That includes men,.women and children.

You are missing the point dimshit. It is immaterial who started it. What matters is who are committing war crimes. Need an example of a war crime? Sure you do. Today...Israel bombed a refugee camp. Their claim is they were targeting one...high level Hamas militant. Do we agree so far?

So...to kill one high level Hamas militant...Israel was willing to kill several hundred innocent people. Cool huh. And you support this type of behavior. Shows your morals. Your parents fucking failed raising you