Wat's Guns-N-Stuff Thread

[Wat_Tyler]

If you're going to tee'em up I'm gong to take the swing.

Let no low-hanging fruit go unpicked.


Ever!!!

 

[HisArpy]

I agree. Keeping firearms out of the hands of mentally ill and dangerous people is a far more realistic way to address mass shootings than pie in the sky dreams of repealing 2A and confiscating hundreds of millions of guns. Due process and medical privacy laws are complex challenges for sure, but shouldnt be insurmountable.

It's more problematic than you think.

What exactly constitutes "mental illness"? As we've seen from the transgender craze, "mental illness" is a moving target subject to change based on social and political winds. What is "mental illness" one week, isn't the next. And vice versa.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Yes, that will also help with revenue shortfalls.

Tax the shit out if ammo. That should stop some of smug behavior we see out of the assholes who act as if 2A prevents any effective regulation.

You honestly believe raising taxes helps with revenue shortfalls? Not a snowball's chance in hell. Our politicians use our tax money like a drunken sailor on a 48 hour weekend pass. All giving them more ever does is let them spend more.

 

[ll74]

It's more problematic than you think.

What exactly constitutes "mental illness"? As we've seen from the transgender craze, "mental illness" is a moving target subject to change based on social and political winds. What is "mental illness" one week, isn't the next. And vice versa.

When a doctor declares you unfit to have a weapon.

Period.

 

[coati]

You honestly believe raising taxes helps with revenue shortfalls? Not a snowball's chance in hell. Our politicians use our tax money like a drunken sailor on a 48 hour weekend pass. All giving them more ever does is let them spend more.

I would not give two shits about this ^^^stupid Deplorable argument. Tax the hell out of ammo and earmark the revenue to help the victims of gun violence.

This gun violence is encouraged by assholes like you, HisArpy, Chobham, and Wat_Tyler who promote the myth that automatic and semi-automatic weaponry is just "fun stuff" (title of this thread), and that federal agents should be disarmed.

Federal agents actually need to take heed that Literotica is hosting this nonsense and those who are making these statements about law enforcement during the worst era of mass shootings in American history.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

You honestly believe raising taxes helps with revenue shortfalls? Not a snowball's chance in hell. Our politicians use our tax money like a drunken sailor on a 48 hour weekend pass. All giving them more ever does is let them spend more.

They'd be that responsible??? Perish the thought!!! Kinda like when state-wide lottery proceeds were earmarked for education and within five years were diverted to the General Fund to make up a budget shortfall. Pretty sure they never went back, and schools still suck.

 

[TrailerHitch]

I would not give two shits about this ^^^stupid Deplorable argument. Tax the hell out of ammo and earmark the revenue to help the victims of gun violence.

This gun violence is encouraged by assholes like you, HisArpy, Chobham, and Wat_Tyler who promote the myth that automatic and semi-automatic weaponry is just "fun stuff" (title of this thread), and that federal agents should be disarmed.

Federal agents actually need to take heed that Literotica is hosting this nonsense and those who are making these statements about law enforcement during the worst era of mass shootings in American history.

YAWN... Oh look folks a lib wants Big Brother to spy on you. You really are nothing but a puppet on a string.

By the way, find a single negative post that I made about law enforcement. No data, no proof, shut the fuck up. And no that's not hypocrisy, because it's not your opinion, you are stating it as a provable fact.

 

[Dribble]

Here are the deadliest mass murders in America

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476101/worst-mass-shootings-in-the-us/

Now comes the fun part. Scroll through them and find out what type of weapon was used. Explain why we see what we see.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Here are the deadliest mass murders in America

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476101/worst-mass-shootings-in-the-us/

Now comes the fun part. Scroll through them and find out what type of weapon was used. Explain why we see what we see.

Actually the greatest mass killings in the history of the US were committed by the military against Native Americans. Thousands were killed during the expansion westward. Wounded Knee being one of the most well known where 300 Native Americans were slaughtered by the US Army.

Then there's Waco and the Branch Davidians where 82 were killed by US government forces, including women, pregnant women, and children. Of course most weren't shot, they were burned to death.

Golly it wasn't so long ago that the federal government bought targets for their LEOs that included pregnant women and children.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It won't help. So far as I know no red flag law has worked to prevent a mass shooting or other similar event.

The problem, no matter how you slice it, is that we have too many mentally ill people running around out there without supervision in a society which has glorified violence through gaming, entertainment, music, and social media.

I agree with all the societal issues you mentioned, and I don’t think red flag laws by themselves are the be-all end-all solution. That said, it makes sense to me to remove guns from people that are mentally unstable (with due process of course).

Do red flag laws work? I don’t know. Have they ever prevented a mass shooting? That’s impossible to answer.

 

[Dribble]

Actually the greatest mass killings in the history of the US were committed by the military against Native Americans. Thousands were killed during the expansion westward. Wounded Knee being one of the most well known where 300 Native Americans were slaughtered by the US Army.

Then there's Waco and the Branch Davidians where 82 were killed by US government forces, including women, pregnant women, and children. Of course most weren't shot, they were burned to death.

Golly it wasn't so long ago that the federal government bought targets for their LEOs that included pregnant women and children.

And? Your point? Be careful....you are being set up

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It's more problematic than you think.

What exactly constitutes "mental illness"? As we've seen from the transgender craze, "mental illness" is a moving target subject to change based on social and political winds. What is "mental illness" one week, isn't the next. And vice versa.

Understood. I’m not dismissing your points. In this case, the sister in law observed dangerous behavior and he was hospitalized for mental illness. A fair hearing before a judge to secure his weapons and ammo for a fixed period of time might have prevented this.

 

[Dribble]

Understood. I’m not dismissing your points. In this case, the sister in law observed dangerous behavior and he was hospitalized for mental illness. A fair hearing before a judge to secure his weapons and ammo for a fixed period of time might have prevented this.

Great....let's do it. Call your Senators and Representatives and say you want something done.

 

[RoryN]

One thing that's consistent in this thread, are the ammosexuals who are trying waaaaaay too hard to look like intellectuals. You can tell they're fighting an image.

Must have something to do with all the mouth-breathers in their flock who are murdering people, leaving guns out for the kids to find and shoot, supposed gun experts shooting themselves in the hand, etc.

 

[TrailerHitch]

And? Your point? Be careful....you are being set up

There is no set up. Your information is incorrect. The greatest shooting massacres in US history were perpetrated by the government. End of story.

 

[coati]

By the way, find a single negative post that I made about law enforcement. No data, no proof, shut the fuck up. And no that's not hypocrisy, because it's not your opinion, you are stating it as a provable fact.

Cool, I at least got you to separate yourself from Wat, Chobham, and HisArpy on that particular point.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Cool, I at least got you to separate yourself from Wat, Chobham, and HisArpy on that particular point.

I have my opinions on law enforcement of course. Mostly positive on the local level. While I can't say the same for those at the federal level I do not in any way wish them any harm.

 

[coati]

Yeah. Why the fuck does the IRS need guns?

To garnish your wages?

Assisted agent suicide?

That's what should be illegal.

They should in no way be a law enforcement arm of the government.

It's bad enough that they're already a hand out looking for handouts at the figurative point of Mao's barrel...

If they qualify as 'police officers' then they're #3 on the top ten list of suicides by profession.

It needs to be #1 by a huge margin . . . .

There may be some merit in disarming the FBI.

So, all this ^^^ is just "fun stuff" from Literotica posters who claim they have no other agenda than writing about the technology of military-grade weapons.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Some really :eyeroll: material here recently.


In other news, .223/556 seems to be experiencing a bit of price hike. Capitalism works just fine, it seems, along with basic economics.

 

[coati]

I have my opinions on law enforcement of course. Mostly positive on the local level. While I can't say the same for those at the federal level I do not in any way wish them any harm.

Bless your heart. You just broke Stormfront rank with JoePepsiCo, Chobham, and Wat_Tyler.

 

[HisArpy]

Understood. I’m not dismissing your points. In this case, the sister in law observed dangerous behavior and he was hospitalized for mental illness. A fair hearing before a judge to secure his weapons and ammo for a fixed period of time might have prevented this.

He was referred for observation by the Army and was committed to a mental hospital/ward.

At that point in time his name should have been entered into the NICS database and any match should have generated a warrant to search and seize his guns.

Those are the laws which already exist and which DO NOT WORK despite the Left constantly trying to impose them all over again while saying that's what we need to stop mass shootings.

Fact: The laws already exist.
Fact: The laws do not work.

Anyone saying that we need more laws needs to understand that if the laws we have don't work, adding more laws will not change anything. It's not the law, it's the incompetent people charged with enforcing the law.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The greatest shooting massacres in US history were perpetrated by the government. End of story.

100% true, but where do we limit that discussion? Do we also bring in the war of 1812, the Civil war, or how about WW1 and WW2. Korea? Vietnam? Or do we accept those happened in the past, and have nothing to do with civilians shooting their fellow country men and women.

It's funny watching you offer up the actual facts, that yes the USA government has been complicit in mass shootings. Which are numerically superior to the ones we see today. But you fail to add in the context. While no one would dispute the Indian wars were tragic and a crime, they were sanctioned by the Government of the day and legal.

What the discussion is now, is in regards to present day criminal mass shootings.It is in that context you need to operate, or not. It's your choice.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

He was referred for observation by the Army and was committed to a mental hospital/ward.

At that point in time his name should have been entered into the NICS database and any match should have generated a warrant to search and seize his guns.

Those are the laws which already exist and which DO NOT WORK despite the Left constantly trying to impose them all over again while saying that's what we need to stop mass shootings.

Fact: The laws already exist.
Fact: The laws do not work.

Anyone saying that we need more laws needs to understand that if the laws we have don't work, adding more laws will not change anything. It's not the law, it's the incompetent people charged with enforcing the law.

Thanks for that background. In this case, there should have been no need for a red flag law. The law didn’t work as it should have.

 

[CuriousRick]

Thanks for that background. In this case, there should have been no need for a red flag law. The law didn’t work as it should have.

It is almost like the mentally ill and criminals don’t obey gun laws.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It is almost like the mentally ill and criminals don’t obey gun laws.

Drug addict adult children of Biden don’t obey them either.