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[policywank]

lol. Really, Why? Because you believe it. PS that link isn't from a propaganda site,but since you doubt it,here's more

https://investingnews.com/daily/res...nd-gas-investing/top-oil-producing-countries/

https://www.reuters.com/business/en...rise-record-1276-mln-bpd-2023-eia-2023-08-08/

https://www.iea.org/reports/oil-market-report-october-2023

So how many more would it take to get you to believe. I'm thinking you will never believe because you drank the Kool aid...

The U.S has been the largest or one of the largest oil producers in the world for some time now. However, they are also the largest consumer of oil so up until the broad expansion of shale oil they were a net importer of oil. I think that nowadays they are not a net importer. They consume roughly the amount they produce. But there are other factors like the type of oil that suits certain refineries and the location of reserves and refineries, so they export from some locations and import to other locations.

We tend to think of Saudi Arabia as the biggest producer but they are not. What they are is a big net exporter because of the gap between their production and their consumption.

OPEC still has an impact though because the price of oil is set according to a world market and a coordinated reduction of supply affects all consumers. It is like any commodity in that sense. Even if a country is net self sufficient the price will move with the world market unless it is a closed or protected economy, which has other major economic implications.

 

[ll74]

"Grief moves quickly and war moves slowly" - Ezra Klein

 

[Rightguide]

The media is a propaganda tool for Muslims, terrorists and Jew haters

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716743106349940864

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716743106349940864

They like to put on a big show.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The U.S has been the largest or one of the largest oil producers in the world for some time now. However, they are also the largest consumer of oil so up until the broad expansion of shale oil they were a net importer of oil. I think that nowadays they are not a net importer. They consume roughly the amount they produce. But there are other factors like the type of oil that suits certain refineries and the location of reserves and refineries, so they export from some locations and import to other locations.

We tend to think of Saudi Arabia as the biggest producer but they are not. What they are is a big net exporter because of the gap between their production and their consumption.

OPEC still has an impact though because the price of oil is set according to a world market and a coordinated reduction of supply affects all consumers. It is like any commodity in that sense. Even if a country is net self sufficient the price will move with the world market unless it is a closed or protected economy, which has other major economic implications.

I already know this, but thanks for the post confirming.

You should be telling this dipshit below, he's the dumbfuck who doesn't get it...lol

Simply unrtrue.

 

[icanhelp1]

Thank you Greta!

 

[ll74]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716810524833313147

 

[Rotadom]

Just heard from an 85 year old Israeli who was taken hostage in the beginning. She said HAMAS treated them well, had medical staff in the tunnels, and made sure they were in good health and the tunnels were clean.

 

[Rotadom]

Thank you Greta!

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A little girl has wounded you.

 

[Lazaran]

Just heard from an 85 year old Israeli who was taken hostage in the beginning. She said HAMAS treated them well, had medical staff in the tunnels, and made sure they were in good health and the tunnels were clean.

So Hamas for the Nobel peace prize then???



Also: The 85 year old Israeli woman was terrorized and beaten during her kidnapping, and was marched for miles through damp underground tunnels where she was eventually separated from her husband, who remains a hostage.

Regular humanitarians, those Hamas animals.

 

[ll74]

I'm sick of this "Palestinians voted for Hamas" bullshit.

The equivalent statement would be if Obama refused to leave the oval and people said Americans voted for Obama.

Fuck off with that shit

 

[butters]

Just heard from an 85 year old Israeli who was taken hostage in the beginning. She said HAMAS treated them well, had medical staff in the tunnels, and made sure they were in good health and the tunnels were clean.

indeed

her capture was brutal, but she was looked after in a fairly basic way once inside the tunnels.

2 reasons and not necessarily exclusive of eachother:

1] the doctors and nurses and general humans co-opted to work with the brutal Hamas for whatever reason won't necessarily have the same viewpoints as the terrorists who took the captives, being more concerned with the well-being of an elderly individual than brutally ripping them from their home. This doesn't mean they do or don't support the regime. We don't know.
2] it serves Hamas' purposes to release captives who will speak well of the treatment they received at their hands

 

[LLCox]

Nothing to see here.

 

[Chobham]

You're entire schtick relies on lies.

So surly so early. Didn't sleep well or hitting the meth already?

 

[Raazor]

While people may favour eradicating Hamas - including, I imagine, a lot of people in Gaza, it will be difficult to accomplish. The tension and distrust between Netanyahu and the IDF which predates the terror attack will make the task even harder.

To remove Hamas from Gaza will require a ground invasion. Urban warfare is very difficult for the attacking force. Factor in ruins atop of a maze of tunnels with (approx) 30k fighting force dug in then the Israeli‘s will need a minimum force of 100k ie a 3:1 ratio. To say that it will be a long and bloody affair is an understatement. Tanks and vehicles will be vulnerable amidst the ruins and the war in Ukraine has shown how easily armour can be taken out with hand held weapons.

The IDF is pushing for the invasion to begin, Netanyahu is holding back. Western allies are also pushing for restraint as a ground invasion could destabilise surrounding states and that will rebound onto Israel. Hamas will slow play the hostages to gain time.

Beyond this, Netanyahu’s strategy of bolstering Hamas to kill the two state solution leaves Israel without a coherent Palestinian policy (Netanyahu’s cosying up to Putin is also now a bust) and without any idea what to do long term it is difficult to see a way out of this godawful mess for Israel or the Palestinians. Under the current political leadership on both sides the hope of anything resembling a viable political solution is zero.

In short, the situation is officially ‘fucked’.

 

[Rightguide]

Thank you Greta!

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She is a hapless little turd.

 

[Rightguide]

I'm sick of this "Palestinians voted for Hamas" bullshit.

The equivalent statement would be if Obama refused to leave the oval and people said Americans voted for Obama.

Fuck off with that shit

I'm sure you are but they did. In fact the majority supports Hamas:

https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8e1323fc1cad819c34da08fd87

 

[ll74]

I'm sure you are but they did. In fact the majority supports Hamas:

https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8e1323fc1cad819c34da08fd87

That's the equivalent of saying that you support Obama as President currently.

Fuck off.

 

[Rightguide]

While people may favour eradicating Hamas - including, I imagine, a lot of people in Gaza, it will be difficult to accomplish. The tension and distrust between Netanyahu and the IDF which predates the terror attack will make the task even harder.

To remove Hamas from Gaza will require a ground invasion. Urban warfare is very difficult for the attacking force. Factor in ruins atop of a maze of tunnels with (approx) 30k fighting force dug in then the Israeli‘s will need a minimum force of 100k ie a 3:1 ratio. To say that it will be a long and bloody affair is an understatement. Tanks and vehicles will be vulnerable amidst the ruins and the war in Ukraine has shown how easily armour can be taken out with hand held weapons.

The IDF is pushing for the invasion to begin, Netanyahu is holding back. Western allies are also pushing for restraint as a ground invasion could destabilise surrounding states and that will rebound onto Israel. Hamas will slow play the hostages to gain time.

Beyond this, Netanyahu’s strategy of bolstering Hamas to kill the two state solution leaves Israel without a coherent Palestinian policy (Netanyahu’s cosying up to Putin is also now a bust) and without any idea what to do long term it is difficult to see a way out of this godawful mess for Israel or the Palestinians. Under the current political leadership on both sides the hope of anything resembling a viable political solution is zero.

In short, the situation is officially ‘fucked’.

I agree. If Iran enters the war they have long-range strike systems that can put at risk most of Israel. If Turkey were to join a region-wide war in the defense of Arab nations, Israel would be finished.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

She is a hapless little turd.

It's funny how a 16 year old girl pissed you off so much, you still harp on it! Did she turn down your offer of corn???

 

[dmallord]

oBiden rescinded all energy related Executive orders Trump put in place. Eliminating US oil production and emptying all of the US oil reserve. Oil is being purchased from other countries instead of our own. oBiden drove up the cost of oil with these tactics which caused uncontrollable inflation and continuous rate increases that only complicate the situation.
He fucked up exactly how he said he would when he was in the basement.

This info is from a Forbes article in 2021 from the author's interviews: Biden's Executive Impact on the Oil Industry

"For a more in-depth interpretation of Biden’s recent executive orders, I spoke with Stacey Morris, who is Director of Research for midstream index and data provider Alerian. She explained that the orders were certainly not as bad as they seemed:

“These executive orders were pretty well-telegraphed. They were even a little bit softened from what was said during the campaign. The language on the Biden website discussed banning permitting on federal land. The executive order is a pause on new leases. They aren't looking at a full out fracking ban.”

When I asked how companies might be affected, she explained “Companies have been stockpiling permits in anticipation of a move like this. Right now there are 7,700 unused permits. For example, Devon EnergyDVN -0.5% has over four years of permit backlog and drilling inventory. They expect to be able to execute on their federal lands program based on comments made in November.”

There is more in the informative article on the cost of oil impact etc.

Fucked up? - or - Just followed through with a campaign promise?

The federal regulations Biden has smothered the oil companies with since taking office have retarded new oil production.

Note the above speaks to this as well. Others have pointed out we are producing more than we import. So, - facts are facts as they say. It's in the public realm - believe what you want and keep ignoring reality.

 

[Raazor]

I agree. If Iran enters the war they have long-range strike systems that can put at risk most of Israel. If Turkey were to join a region-wide war in the defense of Arab nations, Israel would be finished.

Iran will stay on the sidelines, the US has already put the squeeze on them and the mullahs are more interested in retaining power than risking it with a direct war with Israel and by extension the US. Turkey is pushing for a lead mediator role in the conflict - the US price for this was Erdogan green lighting Sweden’s NATO membership which has now been passed to the Turkish Parliament.

The danger to Israel lies more in Egypt collapsing. It’s currently a basket case economically and there are elections in December. A ground war pushing thousands of refugees into Egypt is not something Egypt can cope with and the last thing Israel needs is a major border state in turmoil with a million displaced people in its borders.

My feeling is that Israel cannot undertake a major offensive in Gaza without weakening itself militarily and economically. Politically it is also weaker, Netanyahu’s legacy will be a divided Israel. Right wing populists need internal division to rule. They feed on strife.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Note the above speaks to this as well. Others have pointed out we are producing more than we import. So, - facts are facts as they say. It's in the public realm - believe what you want and keep ignoring reality.

Wrongway ignores reality on a daily basis.

 

[CenSore]

UPDATE NEWSPEAK DICTIONARIES ACCORDINGLY: New York Magazine Writer Splits Hairs Between ‘Beheaded’ Babies and Babies That ‘Were Found Headless.’

 

[ll74]

UPDATE NEWSPEAK DICTIONARIES ACCORDINGLY: New York Magazine Writer Splits Hairs Between ‘Beheaded’ Babies and Babies That ‘Were Found Headless.’

The right wing doesn't care about evidence or details.

And specifically you would prefer to see Gaza burned to the ground.

 

[CenSore]

what does this....UPDATE NEWSPEAK DICTIONARIES ACCORDINGLY: New York Magazine Writer Splits Hairs Between ‘Beheaded’ Babies and Babies That ‘Were Found Headless.’

Have to do with evidence and what details?