Vacate Watch - Speaker Mike Johnson (R - LA)

[ByteMe13]

Too hard for you? Pick one and answer it.

Pat Robertson aka The AntiChrist was the master of asking silly rhetorical questions.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Too hard for you? Pick one and answer it.

It’s their shit show we are powerless

Just as the whole Senate is fucked by one senator

We need a real GOP not these Trumplikans

 

[RoryN]

at least you can laugh at Republicans.

It has nothing to do with "laughing at" them. You're attempting to downplay the damage to that party if they elect Jordan, and the long-term, positive results of said damage.

Plus, none of those things you mention are a given if Jordan becomes Speaker.

 

[YDB95]

How is it a loss for the dems to let US citizens see what a shit show repubs are?

Exactly. If I'm reading Dribble right, they seem to think the Dems just have to be the adults in the room and do their best to clean up after the Republicans' mess, no matter how many times the Republicans accuse us of hating America, running pedophile rings out of some pizza joint, and heaven only knows what else. As I said before, it's a nice idea in principle, and if we really were dealing with a bunch of unruly children, I would agree. But we're not - the House Republicans act like a bunch of unruly children, but they are adults and elected officials, and they bear the responsibility for cleaning up their own mess.

And here's the kicker: they clearly do not want the Democrats' help. McCarthy could have gotten that if he were willing, and then he would still be Speaker. Even they recognize, in an off the wall sort of way, that it's their own mess. Either they think they can have their cake and eat it too, or they want the government to fail and the ensuing damages that will bring on.

Have you looked at Biden's approval ratings? Have you looked at the polling numbers in each state?

Yes, and that is absolutely irrelevant to what's going on in the House. Besides, if your point is that his popularity is relatively low, remember some of that is due to his base feeling he's not fighting back hard enough against the right-wing extremists. So for the members of his own party to do their bidding in the House...is not going to address the problem you're alluding to here at all.

Do you know McCarthy was nominated behind those doors and he declined saying all Republicans need to unite behind Jordan? Do you know the number Jordan needed to convince was right around 48 four hours ago. Do you know that number is now down to 20ish...give or take? Do you know how hard that is to do? Do you know that if this happens, Biden will be impeached? Do you know that if this happens, there is nothing that can be done to win the 24 elections if Biden runs?

You don't know that either. I don't know how old you are, but this time in 1995 everyone I knew was sure Clinton was toast in '96. Just for starters. And last I heard (less than an hour ago) Jordan had not made anywhere near the progress you're claiming here.

You people are blind to reality. You have no clue. People don't give a fuck they are a mess. They see us being a mess...what's the difference? You don't give a fuck we fucked up. They are no different.

For the nine millionth time, if any Republican wants the Dems' support, all s/he has to do is make a decent offer. It is not our fault they've all refused to do that.

Upcoming political ad in fall next year...The Democrats voted together to remove the Speaker of the House...putting our Country in danger. They did this without a plan. Voting without thinking of consequences is not what our country needs. How you vote matters. Please think before you vote

In other words, "Blame the Democrats for refusing to save the Republicans from themselves even though most Republicans won't even acknowledge that they're Americans at all." It's not going to fly, Dribble. Except maybe with people like you.

 

[Chernosoth]

Republicans accuse us of hating America

That is convenient for slogans, but apathy seems more accurate. If progressives see themselves as part of a global elite, then they may think nations don't matter anymore, so America would be just a region on a map where progress must inevitably happen. The widening gap between their ideals and the lack of progress in their own lives may be a factor in the shrill tones and mudfights of internet political discussions.

 

[butters]

so the gop shitshow goes home for the weekend...no speaker determined. They should have rules making them remain there till it's sorted... and if it's prolonged a certain number of days, theyir pay stops till they get to work again.

support weaker than expected for jordan, even if he increased the number to 152... still way short of the 217 required

House Republicans are adjourning for the weekend after their designated candidate for speaker, Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, appears to be well short of the support needed for a chamber-wide vote to give him the gavel.

It's the second time GOP lawmakers have gathered to pick a speaker-designate in three days. Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La., won an internal vote on Wednesday but stepped back from the race on Thursday night after it became clear he did not have enough support for a House floor vote.

Jordan won 124 votes against his rival in the race, Rep. Austin Scott, R-Ga., who won 81. It was followed by a second secret ballot vote on whether lawmakers would support Jordan on the House floor, in which he won 152 votes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...31&cvid=eea20d4d1c2d4ab5a6266f444626f414&ei=8

 

[ByteMe13]

so the gop shitshow goes home for the weekend...no speaker determined. They should have rules making them remain there till it's sorted... and if it's prolonged a certain number of days, theyir pay stops till they get to work again.

support weaker than expected for jordan, even if he increased the number to 152... still way short of the 217 required




https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...31&cvid=eea20d4d1c2d4ab5a6266f444626f414&ei=8

Too bad the President can’t dissolve Congress if they can’t (or won’t) do their job.

They should all resign but we know they won’t.

Hopefully, voters will still remember next November.

 

[jomar]

Have you looked at Biden's approval ratings? Have you looked at the polling numbers in each state?

How is that relevant to the discussion?

Do you know McCarthy was nominated behind those doors and he declined saying all Republicans need to unite behind Jordan? Do you know the number Jordan needed to convince was right around 48 four hours ago. Do you know that number is now down to 20ish...give or take? Do you know how hard that is to do?

No. Do you?

Do you know that if this happens, Biden will be impeached? Do you know that if this happens, there is nothing that can be done to win the 24 elections if Biden runs?

There’s zero evidence. He won’t be impeached.

You people are blind to reality. You have no clue. People don't give a fuck they are a mess. They see us being a mess...what's the difference? You don't give a fuck we fucked up. They are no different.

You’re babbling. Please be more clear.

Upcoming political ad in fall next year...The Democrats voted together to remove the Speaker of the House...putting our Country in danger. They did this without a plan. Voting without thinking of consequences is not what our country needs. How you vote matters. Please think before you vote

Why aren’t you blaming republicans? They’re the ones who are creating congressional fuckery. They’re the one who are putting our country in danger by being held hostage to a few assholes. Why don’t repubs have a plan?

 

[butters]

Armed Services Chairman Mike Rogers and Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCaul acknowledged Thursday that their party is unable to get 217 votes to elect a speaker solely on the backs of Republican support. Republicans can afford to lose only four votes if Democrats remain united behind Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.

Rogers suggested Republicans might have to cut a deal with Democrats and called on Jeffries to spell out what concessions he would require to help the GOP elect a speaker.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...tp&cvid=2d44f53d48934462bb4646ed1242d7ae&ei=8

 

[YDB95]

Rogers suggested Republicans might have to cut a deal with Democrats and called on Jeffries to spell out what concessions he would require to help the GOP elect a speaker.

At least he's saying the right thing. But I have a very hard time believing enough Republicans would agree to much of anything Jeffries might plausibly ask for.

 

[YDB95]

Sexy topic for a Friday night!

Watching Republicans destroy each other? Well, it's not as good as sex, but it's pretty damn good.

 

[AlexBailey]

Did we vote to remove the Speaker of the House?

Answer: Yes.

So...what is our plan?

Yes...we offered him support. Yes...he turned it down. We knew the outcome. Now here are the results of that outcome.

Answer the question since you want to sit at the adult table...if the Republicans do not get their shit in line...how do we prevent a default. We voted for this knowing this was a possibility. How do we prevent a default without Republican support? Simple question

Did the democrats offer McCarthy help? Yes.

Did McCarthy accept? No.

Is Biden under an impeachment investigation now? Yes.

If Biden is impeached will the Senate vote to remove him? No.

If Jordan becomes speaker and strikes popular social programs, bans abortion and support for Ukraine, will that increase Republican popularity among voters? Probably not.


If Jordan becomes speaker will he garner support from moderate Republican voters? Probably not.

If Jordan becomes speaker and tries to pull the J6 plan, will Kamala Harris do what Trump wanted Pence to do? No.

 

[ByteMe13]

Did the democrats offer McCarthy help? Yes.

Did McCarthy accept? No.

Is Biden under an impeachment investigation now? Yes.

If Biden is impeached will the Senate vote to remove him? No.

If Jordan becomes speaker and strikes popular social programs, bans abortion, and support for Ukraine, will that increase Republican popularity among voters? Probably not.


If Jordan becomes speaker will he garner support from moderate Republican voters? Probably not.

If Jordan becomes speaker and tries to pull the J6 plan, will Kamala Harris do what Trump wanted Pence to do? No.

I hope Democrats don’t rule out the possibility that Kamala Harris could decide which electoral votes to count in 2024.

 

[AlexBailey]

I hope Democrats don’t rule out the possibility that Kamala Harris could decide which electoral votes to count in 2024.

Yeah, that’s going to need a constitutional fix at some point. It should probably be done while Dems are in office while the corrupt GOP majority SCOTUS might support the change.

 

[Chernosoth]

Since McCarthy is a nobody now, I am too late to do anything with the name Carthy McCarthyface.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Since McCarthy is a nobody now, I am too late to do anything with the name Carthy McCarthyface.

^^^^^^^^^

Proof Republicans fail at humour.

 

[Chernosoth]

A few Dems would have been enough to keep McCarthy, but he let the Biden impeachment proceed. And very soon the Dems will need to dump Biden anyway. But now with a speaker vacancy they could advance the Senate president pro tempore Patty Murray to the presidency, if they are ready to dump both Biden and Harris. That option may become more attractive as that window is left open.

 

[ByteMe13]

A few Dems would have been enough to keep McCarthy, but he let the Biden impeachment proceed. And very soon the Dems will need to dump Biden anyway. But now with a speaker vacancy they could advance the Senate president pro tempore Patty Murray to the presidency, if they are ready to dump both Biden and Harris. That option may become more attractive as that window is left open.

Pretty unlikely. If something happened to Biden and there was a possibility of something happening to Harris, House GOP would make Trump The Speaker. Then he could get reinstated

 

[lovecraft68]

 

[Lazaran]

A few Dems would have been enough to keep McCarthy, but he let the Biden impeachment proceed. And very soon the Dems will need to dump Biden anyway. But now with a speaker vacancy they could advance the Senate president pro tempore Patty Murray to the presidency, if they are ready to dump both Biden and Harris. That option may become more attractive as that window is left open.

Are you angling for the title of “Dumbest poster on the PB” or “Craziest poster on the PB”???



Sternosot

 

[RoryN]

Since McCarthy is a nobody now, I am too late to do anything with the name Carthy McCarthyface.

Wow...you actually thought this was worth sharing?

This is the sort of post that acts as a reality window. If you fail at humor this badly, you're likely way out of touch socially.

 

[Chernosoth]

Sternosot

Canned heat? I'm OK with being a candle in the darkness.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Canned heat? I'm OK with being a candle in the darkness.

Ummm for the candle to be of any good,it should have been lit. Sadly you forgot that "very" important part.....

 

[RoryN]

Senior House Republican says GOP members ready to block Jordan​

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/15/politics/jim-jordan-house-republicans-speaker/index.html

 

[ll74]

So interesting to see, though predictable, that the freedom caucus is pushing the term, "uniparty" in order to distance themselves from other Republicans in the speaker battle.

Jim Jordan seems close to securing the vote and a vote seems to be expected on Tuesday - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-speaker-vote-jim-jordan-expected-10-17-2023/

https://twitter.com/x/status/1713949127078297660