Vacate Watch - Speaker Mike Johnson (R - LA)

[jaF0]

Poor Gymmie ....

Jim Jordan

Jim Jordan's Speaker Dreams Hanging By a Thread​

The Ohio congressman looks set to face same issues as Rep. Steve Scalise, with a number of GOP lawmakers saying they will not back Jordan for House speaker.

Jack Smith

Will Jim Jordan Be Indicted by Jack Smith? What We Know​

Jordan spread conspiracy theories about the 2020 election, but it might not be enough for an indictment, experts believe.

 

[RobDownSouth]

There are at least five factions/caucuses in Congress, plus a few congresscritters in parties but outside the factions. The binary party system mostly works, until it doesn't.

This multifaction morass actually worked until the late 1970s, when well-meaning congressmen and women basically neutered the power of the all-powerful committee chairs (which at the time were chaired by sclerotic conservative Democrats). When committee chairs were essentially neutered, it gave rise to nihilist bombthrowers such as Newt Gingrich.

 

[Dribble]

You actually think that the Democrats voting against vacating the chair would have gotten us anywhere different. Lol...how cute.

Republicans are the issue here. Democrats helping them implode or not helping them implode means nothing. They offered McCarthy a lifeline in return for assurances and he refused. That was the best outcome and he turned it down.

Did we vote to remove the Speaker of the House?

Answer: Yes.

So...what is our plan?

Yes...we offered him support. Yes...he turned it down. We knew the outcome. Now here are the results of that outcome.

Answer the question since you want to sit at the adult table...if the Republicans do not get their shit in line...how do we prevent a default. We voted for this knowing this was a possibility. How do we prevent a default without Republican support? Simple question

 

[ll74]

Did we vote to remove the Speaker of the House?

Answer: Yes.

So...what is our plan?

Support Jeffries who is the only candidate who supports our policies unless a Republican offers to support them in return for our votes.

Yes...we offered him support. Yes...he turned it down. We knew the outcome. Now here are the results of that outcome.

Yes, these are the results of him refusing to concede to our party requests.

Answer the question since you want to sit at the adult table...if the Republicans do not get their shit in line...how do we prevent a default. We voted for this knowing this was a possibility. How do we prevent a default without Republican support? Simple question

We can't. Simple answer.

This is the result of a Republican majority.

 

[Dribble]

Support Jeffries who is the only candidate who supports our policies unless a Republican offers to support them in return for our votes.


Yes, these are the results of him refusing to concede to our party requests.


We can't. Simple answer.

This is the result of a Republican majority.

No...this is a result of Democrats voting to remove a Speaker...siding WITH TRAITORS... to make some political point that proved nothing. I expect more from my Party. If you are gonna vote someone like the Speaker out...have a plan in place. Once again...stupidity reigns

Republicans will not vote for Jeffries. Nor should they.

But I am glad you see the reality...there is nothing we can do to prevent a default without Republican support.

So then...how do Republicans nominate someone that half the Democrats will support?

See? This is our problem as much as it is Republicans because it is our elected officials job to figure this out. Both sides must work together. What do we do if the Republican leadership do not come through?

 

[AlexBailey]

The framers of the constitution intended that congress would have to negotiate and compromise with each other.

 

[ll74]

No...this is a result of Democrats voting to remove a Speaker...siding WITH TRAITORS... to make some political point that proved nothing. I expect more from my Party. If you are gonna vote someone like the Speaker out...have a plan in place. Once again...stupidity reigns

This was inevitable. This was not the fault of Democrats.

Republicans will not vote for Jeffries. Nor should they.

I agree.

But I am glad you see the reality...there is nothing we can do to prevent a default without Republican support.

Correct.

So then...how do Republicans nominate someone that half the Democrats will support?

They can't unless the Republican works to gain their support.

See? This is our problem as much as it is Republicans because it is our elected officials job to figure this out. Both sides must work together. What do we do if the Republican leadership do not come through?

Yes, you don't like our government makeup.

Compromise is the only way. Democrats have offered that and Republicans have refused.

 

[Bn2f]

Did we vote to remove the Speaker of the House?

Answer: Yes.

So...what is our plan?

Yes...we offered him support. Yes...he turned it down. We knew the outcome. Now here are the results of that outcome.

Answer the question since you want to sit at the adult table...if the Republicans do not get their shit in line...how do we prevent a default. We voted for this knowing this was a possibility. How do we prevent a default without Republican support? Simple question

I'm trying. I'm really trying. I once thought that you were not a democrat, but I am convinced you are the democrat who whispers in the ear of Gore to accept the narrative of republicans and for the good of the country stop tabulating votes in Florida. You're the democrat who raised their hand from the back of the huddle and recommended that Hillary upset the apple cart and pick Tim Kaine as VP.

 

[AlexBailey]

Congress has an obligation to function for the interests of the people of the United States. The rules for congress were designed so that differing parties would have to communicate and work together.

Right now there is an opportunity and need for cooperation among the parties but there is too much division.

Let’s see if respect and responsibility can overcome ego and idealism.

Right now the anti US government MAGA wing is winning.

 

[jaF0]

^^^ Congress has an obligation to function for the interests of the Critters and the Special Interest groups that fund their campaigns.

 

[butters]

scott throws in his hat for speakership as a protest to jordan

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=5847ec92bda044838bc71a2b7477dd64&ei=34

 

[jaF0]

Scott who?

 

[jaF0]

Oh, you mean this guy?

U.S. News // 15 minutes ago
U.S. House Republicans continue to search for who will be next speaker
Oct. 13 (UPI) -- Rep. Austin Scott, R-Ga., a critic of the eight Republicans to voted to remove Rep. Kevin McCarthy as House speaker, has thrown his hat into the ring for the job, running against Rep. Jim Jordan,

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[RobDownSouth]

Jordan defeated Scott in a private Republican vote.
Jordan is now the official Republican candidate against Hakeem Jeffries.
Now it is time for the Matt Gaetz and Margorie Taylor Greene sideshow.

 

[Dribble]

Word from behind the scenes...the Moderate Republicans are going to cave. Still a couple holdouts...but they have started flipping. Take it or leave it.

Still waiting for anyone to tell me how removing the Speaker was a win for the Democratic Party.

 

[Dribble]

I'm trying. I'm really trying. I once thought that you were not a democrat, but I am convinced you are the democrat who whispers in the ear of Gore to accept the narrative of republicans and for the good of the country stop tabulating votes in Florida. You're the democrat who raised their hand from the back of the huddle and recommended that Hillary upset the apple cart and pick Tim Kaine as VP.

Nice deflection attempt. Watch and learn with the rest here.

 

[ByteMe13]

Word from behind the scenes...the Moderate Republicans are going to cave. Still a couple holdouts...but they have started flipping. Take it or leave it.

Still waiting for anyone to tell me how removing the Speaker was a win for the Democratic Party.

What’s your source?

55 GOP reps voted against supporting the insurrectionist on the House floor.

 

[ll74]

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Word from behind the scenes...the Moderate Republicans are going to cave. Still a couple holdouts...but they have started flipping. Take it or leave it.

Still waiting for anyone to tell me how removing the Speaker was a win for the Democratic Party.

Source or stfu

 

[jomar]

Word from behind the scenes...the Moderate Republicans are going to cave. Still a couple holdouts...but they have started flipping. Take it or leave it.

Time will tell.

Still waiting for anyone to tell me how removing the Speaker was a win for the Democratic Party.

How is it a loss for the dems to let US citizens see what a shit show repubs are?

 

[RoryN]

Getting Jim Jordan as Speaker would be almost as good as getting Boebert or MTG. It would completely open the kimono on how dysfunctional the Republican party really is.

Sure, it'd be nice to have a Congress that actually got stuff done. But, if that's not going to happen anyhow, let the circus ascend to the next level.

 

[Dribble]

Time will tell.


How is it a loss for the dems to let US citizens see what a shit show repubs are?

Have you looked at Biden's approval ratings? Have you looked at the polling numbers in each state?

Do you know McCarthy was nominated behind those doors and he declined saying all Republicans need to unite behind Jordan? Do you know the number Jordan needed to convince was right around 48 four hours ago. Do you know that number is now down to 20ish...give or take? Do you know how hard that is to do? Do you know that if this happens, Biden will be impeached? Do you know that if this happens, there is nothing that can be done to win the 24 elections if Biden runs?

You people are blind to reality. You have no clue. People don't give a fuck they are a mess. They see us being a mess...what's the difference? You don't give a fuck we fucked up. They are no different.

Upcoming political ad in fall next year...The Democrats voted together to remove the Speaker of the House...putting our Country in danger. They did this without a plan. Voting without thinking of consequences is not what our country needs. How you vote matters. Please think before you vote

 

[ByteMe13]

Have you looked at Biden's approval ratings? Have you looked at the polling numbers in each state?

Do you know McCarthy was nominated behind those doors and he declined saying all Republicans need to unite behind Jordan? Do you know the number Jordan needed to convince was right around 48 four hours ago. Do you know that number is now down to 20ish...give or take? Do you know how hard that is to do? Do you know that if this happens, Biden will be impeached? Do you know that if this happens, there is nothing that can be done to win the 24 elections if Biden runs?

You people are blind to reality. You have no clue. People don't give a fuck they are a mess. They see us being a mess...what's the difference? You don't give a fuck we fucked up. They are no different.

Upcoming political ad in fall next year...The Democrats voted together to remove the Speaker of the House...putting our Country in danger. They did this without a plan. Voting without thinking of consequences is not what our country needs. How you vote matters. Please think before you vote

There should be a limit on the number of rhetorical questions a poster can have in a post, much less in a paragraph

 

[Dribble]

Getting Jim Jordan as Speaker would be almost as good as getting Boebert or MTG. It will completely open the kimono on how dysfunctional the Republican party really is.

Sure, it'd be nice to have a Congress that actually got stuff done. But, if that's not going to happen anyhow, let the circus ascend to the next level.

Sure...kiss Ukraine funding goodbye. Brilliant...at least you can laugh at Republicans.

Kiss 3% of all those cool things like WIC goodbye. Brilliant...at least you can laugh at Republicans.

Biden will be impeached. Brilliant...at least you can laugh at Republicans.

Think. This is not a good thing

 

[Dribble]

There should be a limit on the number of rhetorical questions a poster can have in a post, much less in a paragraph

Too hard for you? Pick one and answer it.

 

[ByteMe13]

Getting Jim Jordan as Speaker would be almost as good as getting Boebert or MTG. It would completely open the kimono on how dysfunctional the Republican party really is.

Sure, it'd be nice to have a Congress that actually got stuff done. But, if that's not going to happen anyhow, let the circus ascend to the next level.

Donald Trump as Speaker is only slightly worse than Jim Jordan as Speaker. Did anyone tell Jordan there are no naked boys in the Speaker’s office?