Israel/Hamas PB Tribal Fight

[AveryElle]

They have as much or more right to it as Israel.

based on what?
If we're basing it on who is indigenous, then sorry, Jews are.
If they're basing it on wars won? I mean, if you invade a country and lose...you have to deal with the consequences.

I don't support West Bank settlements - they're a distraction courtesy of an extreme religious minority - but "Palestinians" have been offered a state FIVE times and said no. All arab neighboring nations started wars that Israel won, even when it was nothing of a country in 1948. So what? Winning wars has consequences. But if you hate Jews, then it doesn't matter and Israel shouldn't exist, and why stop there?

 

[Sean Renaud]

What media do you read? The BBC? NYT? Because the NYT didn't even mention Hamas yesterday in the front page.
I don't even know what "being a Jew is an extreme sport" means.
Hamas doesn't want concessions. They want all of the land and they won't stop at that. Read their mission statement.

Mostly Reuters and Al Jazzeer English. But I do wander into Fox and CNN from time to time though CNN has gotten pretty bad as of late.

 

[ll74]

Schumer criticizes China:

During rare China trip, Schumer criticizes country’s initial reaction to Hamas attack on Israel​

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/...l-reaction-to-hamas-attack-on-israel-00120584
I raised with President Xi the unfolding atrocities carried out against Israel and the need for the world community to stand together against terrorism and with the Israeli people, and pointedly requested from President Xi that the Chinese Foreign Minister strengthen their statement; they did,” Schumer said in a statement

 

[AveryElle]

I'll go with, "damned if you don't." Americans abroad need to be responsible for their own ass as far as I'm concerned.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/biden-awol-as-hamas-threatens-to-kill-hostages

at least use reputable media not toilet paper

 

[ll74]

I'll go with, "damned if you don't." Americans abroad need to be responsible for their own ass as far as I'm concerned.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/biden-awol-as-hamas-threatens-to-kill-hostages

The blame Biden thread is elsewhere.

Biden didn't stop working.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You obviously dislike Jewish people, why, I don’t know, but innocent children being murdered should be beyond your ability to stomach.

Don’t try to mix your views of American racism with the real war and death happening right now. A world exists beyond your black lives matter mantra.

I got nothing but love for Jewish people. Israel has killed more innocent children by an order of magnitude and you don't give shit. Stop with that.

American racism is important to bring up here because it totally shoots down your bullshit point. Black Lives MAtter should be something you could get 100% behind cus otherwise how are you any better than Hamas? Oh wait that's not actually your goal.

You would have no more problem with them killing all of us here than you all of them there. At least I own you should defend yourself anyway you must.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The blame Biden thread is elsewhere.

Biden didn't stop working.

Didn't you hear? Biden had a BBQ instead of jumping in the Batjet and saving everybody.

 

[Sean Renaud]

What media do you read? The BBC? NYT? Because the NYT didn't even mention Hamas yesterday in the front page.
I don't even know what "being a Jew is an extreme sport" means.
Hamas doesn't want concessions. They want all of the land and they won't stop at that. Read their mission statement.

You've literally never heard of the X-Games? Were you under a rock for the 90's and 2000's?

 

[LLCox]

The blame Biden thread is elsewhere.

IDK

 

[LLCox]

at least use reputable media not toilet paper

They are all toilet paper.

 

[SubzeroGirl]

I got nothing but love for Jewish people. Israel has killed more innocent children by an order of magnitude and you don't give shit. Stop with that.

American racism is important to bring up here because it totally shoots down your bullshit point. Black Lives MAtter should be something you could get 100% behind cus otherwise how are you any better than Hamas? Oh wait that's not actually your goal.

You would have no more problem with them killing all of us here than you all of them there. At least I own you should defend yourself anyway you must.

BLM is a topic for a different thread.

You have the utmost love for people you claim have murdered magnitudes of innocents? I really try to treat you as if all the wiring in your head is connected, but obviously there’s a short. Logic seems to have been the casualty.

Let the purple pony keep dancing around in your head and sing along.

 

[Dribble]

Nope. Just pointing out that your god complex doesn't contribute anything to this thread.

Sure it does. I don't make a history of going around telling people where to post. Keep trying. Someday...some year...you will better me.

 

[ll74]

Sure it does. I don't make a history of going around telling people where to post. Keep trying. Someday...some year...you will better me.

It does not.

You're in whatever competition you are in. I am not.

 

[ll74]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...with-israel-2023-10-09/?utm_source=reddit.com

I saw that.

What a weird turn of events.

 

[CenSore]

Sorry, just saw this thread, so here is my contribution, FWIW.

What’s behind Barack Obama’s silence on Israel?​

I know that it really doesnt mean anything, doesnt help in fighting this war. Yet, as a former President one would have assumed he would say something, This question is being spread in many publications with all sorts of speculation as to motive.


https://unherd.com/thepost/whats-behind-barack-obamas-silence-on-israel/

Statement:







https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1329647526807543809/2SGvnHYV_bigger.jpg

Barack Obama


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1644381876465938433/7TiSgwTB_bigger.jpg
@BarackObama


All Americans should be horrified and outraged by the brazen terrorist attacks on Israel and the slaughter of innocent civilians. We grieve for those who died, pray for the safe return of those who’ve been held hostage, and stand squarely alongside our ally, Israel, as it dismantles Hamas. As we support Israel’s right to defend itself against terror, we must keep striving for a just and lasting peace for Israelis and Palestinians alike.

 

[ll74]

Statement:







https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1329647526807543809/2SGvnHYV_bigger.jpg

Barack Obama


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1644381876465938433/7TiSgwTB_bigger.jpg
@BarackObama


All Americans should be horrified and outraged by the brazen terrorist attacks on Israel and the slaughter of innocent civilians. We grieve for those who died, pray for the safe return of those who’ve been held hostage, and stand squarely alongside our ally, Israel, as it dismantles Hamas. As we support Israel’s right to defend itself against terror, we must keep striving for a just and lasting peace for Israelis and Palestinians alike.

It was a good message imo.

 

[Dribble]

It does not.

You're in whatever competition you are in. I am not.

You really should try to stay on topic...that way people don't get confused as to the competition you claim not to be in

 

[ll74]

You really should try to stay on topic...that way people don't get confused as to the competition you claim not to be in

Thanks for the valuable feedback

 

[AveryElle]

Nobody gets kicked out of places for being good, honest, hardworking people who live clean and play by the rules.

It’s almost comical how well you have been trained not to wonder why they have been hated for so many centuries in so many places. Their story just doesn’t add up.

Haha ok bro.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Nobody gets kicked out of places for being good, honest, hardworking people who live clean and play by the rules.

It’s almost comical how well you have been trained not to wonder why they have been hated for so many centuries in so many places. Their story just doesn’t add up.

Jews know that being good, hardworking people won't save us when the pogroms start.

 

[AveryElle]

Exactly the level of response I expected... because there is no logical rebuttal.

No, because it’s really not fair to engage with someone who has a learning disability.

 

[RobDownSouth]

If they're basing it on wars won? I mean, if you invade a country and lose...you have to deal with the consequences.

If your country is a signatory to the Fourth Geneva Convention your country may not permanently occupy conquered territory nor evict inhabitants

 

[RandyRebecca]

Israel is vile. A racist apartheid state that has been systematically and brutally oppressing Palestinians for decades. Israel deserve all the negatives that they are getting. Notice how Trump, RFK Jr. and Biden all stand behind Israel? All big business capitalist-imperialist stooges. Biden even said that Israel should fight to the end! That raises the question, what is the end? Reoccupation of Gaza? A Holocaust? What?

 

[ll74]

Israel is vile. A racist apartheid state that has been systematically and brutally oppressing Palestinians for decades. Israel deserve all the negatives that they are getting.

So you support the killing of Israelis.

Neat.

 

[RandyRebecca]

So you support the killing of Israelis.

Neat.

You support the killing of Palestinians?

Is the violence of a slave against a slave owner as bad or worse as the violence of a slave owner against a slave? Contemptible morality if so. Liberal morality laid bare in its bankruptcy right there.