Israel/Hamas PB Tribal Fight

[ll74]

People cheering the death of human beings disgust me.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pro-p...ttack-as-israel-supporters-rally-in-new-york/

 

[ll74]

Russia and Iran are strategic partners and Iran supports Hamas.

What are the chances Putin has a finger in what’s happening in Israel?

I’m not saying he’s behind all of it, but why would a strategist like him ignore the benefits of stretching the US interests to distract from the war in Ukraine?

I'm truly interested in seeing statements of world leaders, including Putin

 

[LLCox]

But they're not untrue.

If Israel had complied with various UN resolutions requiring withdrawal from the Occupied Territories, we might not be here now.

But no, Hamas, Hezbolala, Iran and the rest have professed Isreal's total destruction since before any resolutions. You see what has happened since Israel returned Gaza. I have no dog in this fight either. It has been going on for three thousand years. Isreal is no "good guy" but the Palestinians (Philistines) are animals.

 

[ll74]

I have to say I agree with Bolton somewhat. I don't want more war, but Iran is almost begging for it.....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711085159196287022

 

[Dribble]

I really don't get why people are surprised by any of this? If a country treats people like shit...they will respond irrationally because what else is there? Now Israel has cut off water, electricity, food, everything ...to the World's most densely populated region in existence...which was created like that by Israel...and then they bomb hospitals...all you are doing is creating the next generation that will rise against you. The only way to stop that is total annilation of a race. And to listen to the rhetoric...that is how it sounds. Why is this acceptable? Two wrongs don't make a right. People need to read the June 2023 report by the UN. Both sides are wrong

 

[jaF0]

I have to say I agree with Bolton somewhat. I don't want more war, but Iran is almost begging for it.....

We don't need to care what Iran or anyone else there does. That entire region has been in turmoil many times longer than the US has existed. We need to stay clear and let them deal with it the way they have for centuries.

 

[ll74]

We don't need to care what Iran or anyone else there does. That entire region has been in turmoil many times longer than the US has existed. We need to stay clear and let them deal with it the way they have for centuries.

Until oil isn't the primary driver of the world, ignoring the Middle East is not an option.

 

[LLCox]

I really don't get why people are surprised by any of this? If a country treats people like shit...they will respond irrationally because what else is there? Now Israel has cut off water, electricity, food, everything ...to the World's most densely populated region in existence...which was created like that by Israel...and then they bomb hospitals...all you are doing is creating the next generation that will rise against you. The only way to stop that is total annilation of a race. And to listen to the rhetoric...that is how it sounds. Why is this acceptable? Two wrongs don't make a right. People need to read the June 2023 report by the UN. Both sides are wrong

This conflict has been going on for three thousand years. Only one side or the others destruction is the only way it will end. if Gaza didn't want their sustenance cut off then they shouldn't have attacked. The Philistines are treated like animals because they are. When Gaza was handed back to them the Israeli's left a going Israeli business for them instead of tearing it down. They also were going to leave the houses that Israeli's had built for themselves but the Philistines told them to tear them down. Animals
Hamas makes good money and doesn't have to work because of the support from other anti Israeli Countries that support them. It's a sweet deal except when you have to kill yourself because you are stoopid.

 

[LLCox]

The more the deadlier...

https://thehill.com/policy/internat...-striking-territory-in-lebanon-officials-say/

 

[LLCox]

US swag on the way.

https://breakingdefense.com/2023/10...-israel-moves-ships-and-aircraft-into-region/

 

[Sean Renaud]

Better that they watch their people get slaughtered. Is that how you treated the enemy when they killed your friends in battle? Rolled out the red carpet so you could feel good about yourself? If that’s how you feel, go join up with Hamas and stick it to the Israeli’s. Torture is your thing isn’t it?

Nobody killed anybody I directly knew that being said we are required by law to "roll out the red carpet". That what the huge deal about Gitmo was/is that it is against the law and everybody involved should be in prison for life. Its that fucking simple.

Which has nothing to do with Jews committing genocide and America backing them. That is something we would never be able to get around. Everybody would KNOW we're the bad guys.

 

[Dribble]

For the ignorant...Google can help. Palestinians and Phillistines are not the same thing

 

[CenSore]

Sorry, just saw this thread, so here is my contribution, FWIW.

What’s behind Barack Obama’s silence on Israel?​

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I know that it really doesnt mean anything, doesnt help in fighting this war. Yet, as a former President one would have assumed he would say something, This question is being spread in many publications with all sorts of speculation as to motive.


https://unherd.com/thepost/whats-behind-barack-obamas-silence-on-israel/

 

[ll74]

Sorry, just saw this thread, so here is my contribution, FWIW.

What’s behind Barack Obama’s silence on Israel?​

I know that it really doesnt mean anything, doesnt help in fighting this war. Yet, as a former President one would have assumed he would say something, This question is being spread in many publications with all sorts of speculation as to motive.


https://unherd.com/thepost/whats-behind-barack-obamas-silence-on-israel/

I don't like the speculation, but can appreciate the questions.

 

[LLCox]

For the ignorant...Google can help. Palestinians and Phillistines are not the same thing

Yes, you should educate yourself.

https://metrovoicenews.com/dna-shows-philistines-and-modern-day-palestinians-were-really-european/

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...stinians/0000017f-e7d6-dc7e-adff-f7ffc2390000

 

[Dribble]

Yes, you should educate yourself.

https://metrovoicenews.com/dna-shows-philistines-and-modern-day-palestinians-were-really-european/

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...stinians/0000017f-e7d6-dc7e-adff-f7ffc2390000

You should look at more reputable sources.

 

[Dribble]

"The biblical Philistines were the so-called “sea people”.Their presence in what is now Israel is usually dated to 1150 BCE.The best guess is that they were part of the proto-Greek Minoan-Mycenian civilization. They probably came from Crete-though other origins have been sugested as well.After showing up in Canaan,they established 5 city states-Gaza,Gath (Goliath’s hometown),Ashdod,Ekron,and Ashkelon.They were bitter enemies of the Israelites.They were conquered by the Assyrians in the 8th century BCE and their remnants were eliminated by the Chaldeans in the 7th-after which they vanish from the pages of history.The liklihood is that they were deported to Assyria/Babylon-similar to what happened to the Israelites (and for the same reason).

The present day Palestinian Arabs are descended from a variety of peoples.These include Greek +Italian colonists from the Roman era,discharged Roman soldiers,Idumeans+Nabateans in the Negev,Jewish converts to Christianity or Islam,Arameans,and desert Arabs who showed up with Omar in the 7th century CE.Later conquerors like the Seljuks,Crusaders,and Ottomans added to their gene pool as did immigrants from Morocco,Egypt,Bosnia,and even Sudan.

Thus there is no ethnic,religious,or cultural connection between the long gone biblical Philistines and the present day Palestinian Arabs."

From a very prominent site you could easy Google

 

[Sean Renaud]

I really don't get why people are surprised by any of this? If a country treats people like shit...they will respond irrationally because what else is there? Now Israel has cut off water, electricity, food, everything ...to the World's most densely populated region in existence...which was created like that by Israel...and then they bomb hospitals...all you are doing is creating the next generation that will rise against you. The only way to stop that is total annilation of a race. And to listen to the rhetoric...that is how it sounds. Why is this acceptable? Two wrongs don't make a right. People need to read the June 2023 report by the UN. Both sides are wrong

When someone has pushed you this fucking hard is it really irrational to strike out. I live in a country that constantly claims its better to die on your feet than live on your knees. When we see someone being oppressed striking back with the only tools available we're suddenly "You're bad! Take a knee!" We really need to rethink the 2nd amendment and if that is something we actually believe in or not.

 

[AveryElle]

It would be kinda cool after decades of bitching for the Israelis to commit genocide while America cheered em on.

If the world is going to claim you’re doing it anyway….

 

[AveryElle]

Well they are cut off totally now so good luck getting support unless some of their "buddies" attack too. I guess they like being fodder for Iran's games. Never do the Arabs/Iranians win. An exercise in futility.

It’s not like they haven’t had 75 years to, I don’t know, build their own infrastructure, provide for their own people, have the workings of a state so when you become a state (since they never were one), you’re ready. The problem with statehood is that you then have to govern. It’s much easier to wrap up your collection identities in Jew Hate instead of doing something.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It’s not like they haven’t had 75 years to, I don’t know, build their own infrastructure, provide for their own people, have the workings of a state so when you become a state (since they never were one), you’re ready. The problem with statehood is that you then have to govern. It’s much easier to wrap up your collection identities in Jew Hate instead of doing something.

Israel keeps taking land so anyplace they built their own infrastructure would like soon become Israel. Not that they are completely devoid of those things mind you. This has nothing really to do with Jew Hate anyhow.

As for the world will blame us either way, that's not entirely true. If Biden and in magical fairy land the Republican Leadership at least postured like peace was the goal it becomes harder to blame us.

 

[Dribble]

When someone has pushed you this fucking hard is it really irrational to strike out. I live in a country that constantly claims its better to die on your feet than live on your knees. When we see someone being oppressed striking back with the only tools available we're suddenly "You're bad! Take a knee!" We really need to rethink the 2nd amendment and if that is something we actually believe in or not.

If it results in total annilation? Yea...I call it irrational. Is it understandable? Yes. I believe this has been the long-term goal of Israel ever since Trump declared Jerusalem the capital if not longer. They have every intention of taking all of Gaza

 

[AveryElle]

I really don't get why people are surprised by any of this? If a country treats people like shit...they will respond irrationally because what else is there? Now Israel has cut off water, electricity, food, everything ...to the World's most densely populated region in existence...which was created like that by Israel...and then they bomb hospitals...all you are doing is creating the next generation that will rise against you. The only way to stop that is total annilation of a race. And to listen to the rhetoric...that is how it sounds. Why is this acceptable? Two wrongs don't make a right. People need to read the June 2023 report by the UN. Both sides are wrong

Both sidesism.
If Hamas (or anyone) would use resources to create proper shelter and not use hospitals and schools as hide outs and from where they launch attacks, I’d feel bad. I don’t agree with Netanyahu even if he is a Philly boy. But ‘Palestinians’ have had at least five chances to have a state. They don’t want one because they can’t govern. They only want to be victims of Israel, and spread lies that Jews are not indigenous to the land of Judea.
Every Jew you know outside of Israel lives in the diaspora from 2k years of displacement. It is mostly Jordanians and Egyptians make up the concept of Palestinians. Ask yourself why they don’t want a state (because their goal is to eliminate Jews, not to have Israel as theirs) and then ask why Egypt and Jordan, their actual ancestral homes, don’t want them.

 

[AveryElle]

Israel keeps taking land so anyplace they built their own infrastructure would like soon become Israel. Not that they are completely devoid of those things mind you. This has nothing really to do with Jew Hate anyhow.

As for the world will blame us either way, that's not entirely true. If Biden and in magical fairy land the Republican Leadership at least postured like peace was the goal it becomes harder to blame us.

Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005. I don’t support settlements, but if you attack a country and that country wins, do you not get what you won? It should Poland be speaking Russian now?

And EVERYTHING about the public response to this has to do with Jew hate. Jews are not safe anywhere. If you think they are, you’re probably not Jewish.

 

[AveryElle]

If it results in total annilation? Yea...I call it irrational. Is it understandable? Yes. I believe this has been the long-term goal of Israel ever since Trump declared Jerusalem the capital if not longer. They have every intention of taking all of Gaza

They will now. They don’t want the shit hole but they have no choice now.