Wat's Guns-N-Stuff Thread

[Dribble]

You know that escaped inmate in Pennsylvania? Well now he is armed. Cause guns make us safer...lol

 

[Chobham]

You know that escaped inmate in Pennsylvania? Well now he is armed. Cause guns make us safer...lol

The odds against him being taken alive just went up........dramatically.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

He found a squirrel gun. That don't make him Charles Whitman.

 

[Chobham]

He found a squirrel gun. That don't make him Charles Whitman.

Yup, and the way he's living he's gong to need what ammo he's got for squirrels and rabbits just so he can eat.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Yup, and the way he's living he's gong to need what ammo he's got for squirrels and rabbits just so he can eat.

If he got any ammo.

 

[Buffalogurl]

I’ll admit to mixed feelings on abortion.

On the one hand, it’s absolutely evil and in almost every case is nothing more than an attempt by stupid people to avoid the predictable consequences of bad choices.

On the other hand, 30 million more hood rats would take this sinking ship straight to the bottom.

And, while having an abortion is definitely sin… theology gives us reason to believe that the victims end up in heaven because they never reached the age of accountability.

I don’t buy into terminology like “reproductive freedom.” It’s infanticide. I never tolerated soldiers using euphemisms for killing. If you can’t say it, you probably shouldn’t be doing it.

And finally, if the successful outcome of a procedure is that someone ends up dead, it’s not “healthcare.”

Well stated^^^^^^^

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Most people on this forum would find it difficult to fathom that you cannot hang a framed painting or photograph with scotch tape

Really did you try that? Is this experience talking? ( coming from the guy promoting "carbon based water")

let alone understand the actual physical mechanics of using a hammer & nail.

lol you sure think people in general are unskilled....and it's not called a hammer. It's a "multipurpose, manually operated, impact generator".

After all, the only thing they've ever "hit" or "nailed" is imaginary pussy in their wet dreams.

Yes we know you can't get laid. You don't need to express it here...

 

[Buffalogurl]

Having an abortion is in the bible. There are plants in nature, created by your god, that do nothing but serve as abortifacients medicinally.

Of course you don't like that term reproductive freedom. It's not emotionally charged enough for your hysteria. The reality is abortion is self defense.

Yes a fetus, a developing human being, ends up dead. Because fetal slavery is worse. Unless of course you are willing to give up ownership of your body and tissues to support and save lives. As compelled by your government.

I find it interesting how hysterical the conservative male perspective is on abortion.

Adrina, please list any and all scripture in the Christian Bible that allows the destruction of the unborn. (This I gotta read).
What your argument distills down to is the simple fact that you and your kind do not want to be held accountable for your actions. Every thing has benefits and consequences..... every time people have sex (male, female sex) they risk a pregnancy, just a law of nature .

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Adrina, please list any and all scripture in the Christian Bible that allows the destruction of the unborn. (This I gotta read).

LOL who cares what a book of fictions says...when you got some "proof" it's non fiction, then come back. Until then it's just based upon "faith".

What your argument distills down to is the simple fact that you and your kind do not want to be held accountable for your actions.

What kind is she? A woman, who wants control over her own body? What is wrong with that????

Every thing has benefits and consequences..... every time people have sex (male, female sex) they risk a pregnancy, just a law of nature .

Every time you get out of bed you risk dying. What does that have to do with the right to have control over your own body???

 

[adrina]

Adrina, please list any and all scripture in the Christian Bible that allows the destruction of the unborn. (This I gotta read).
What your argument distills down to is the simple fact that you and your kind do not want to be held accountable for your actions. Every thing has benefits and consequences..... every time people have sex (male, female sex) they risk a pregnancy, just a law of nature .

Already listed above. Catch up baby tomato. How can anyone so ignorant have such strong opinions.

What it amounts to is that you want everyone to live by your religious dogma.

Get off your high horse. It's about control and punishment. Nothing else.

 

[Rightguide]

No, what I believe is the ruling by the court to send it back to the states is the correct one. Let the house and senate sort it out and make it law. I do believe some states are being anal, leave it up to the voters to adjust windage and elevation at the state level.

They don't understand the simple fact that the SCOTUS corrected itself. A right to abortion is not stated or implied in the Constitution outside of those "powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

 

[Bray123]

Adrina, please list any and all scripture in the Christian Bible that allows the destruction of the unborn. (This I gotta read).
What your argument distills down to is the simple fact that you and your kind do not want to be held accountable for your actions. Every thing has benefits and consequences..... every time people have sex (male, female sex) they risk a pregnancy, just a law of nature .

To save you from reading the book that props up the dodgy table:

Numbers 5. Verses 19 through 22:

Then the priest shall make her take an oath, saying, “If no man has lain with you, if you have not turned aside to uncleanness while under your husband’s authority, be immune to this water of bitterness that brings the curse. But if you have gone astray while under your husband’s authority, if you have defiled yourself and some man other than your husband has had intercourse with you,” —let the priest make the woman take the oath of the curse and say to the woman—“the Lord make you an execration and an oath among your people, when the Lord makes your uterus drop, your womb discharge; now may this water that brings the curse enter your bowels and make your womb discharge, your uterus drop!” And the woman shall say, “Amen. Amen.”

 

[HisArpy]

To save you from reading the book that props up the dodgy table:

Numbers 5. Verses 19 through 22:

Then the priest shall make her take an oath, saying, “If no man has lain with you, if you have not turned aside to uncleanness while under your husband’s authority, be immune to this water of bitterness that brings the curse. But if you have gone astray while under your husband’s authority, if you have defiled yourself and some man other than your husband has had intercourse with you,” —let the priest make the woman take the oath of the curse and say to the woman—“the Lord make you an execration and an oath among your people, when the Lord makes your uterus drop, your womb discharge; now may this water that brings the curse enter your bowels and make your womb discharge, your uterus drop!” And the woman shall say, “Amen. Amen.”

That's a very strange reading you have where you equate a divine miracle as a medical procedure performed by man.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Wait, are we not going to talk about how being able to hang pictures on a wall makes you a real man?

That was a good tangent. Let's get back to that.

 

[Rightguide]

Is your knowledge really that paltry?


Numbers 5. Verses 19 through 22:


Then the priest shall make her take an oath, saying, “If no man has lain with you, if you have not turned aside to uncleanness while under your husband’s authority, be immune to this water of bitterness that brings the curse. But if you have gone astray while under your husband’s authority, if you have defiled yourself and some man other than your husband has had intercourse with you,” —let the priest make the woman take the oath of the curse and say to the woman—“the Lord make you an execration and an oath among your people, when the Lord makes your uterus drop, your womb discharge; now may this water that brings the curse enter your bowels and make your womb discharge, your uterus drop!” And the woman shall say, “Amen. Amen.”

First off this is sometimes called the of Jealousy or the Ordeal Of The Bitter Water. It doesn't have anything to do with condoning abortion as we know it today. We can see this is a ritual where a jealous man brings his wife to a priest to determine by ordeal whether her pregnancy resulted from an alleged act of adultery, she drinks the bitter water and if guilty she has physical consequences of some sort but if innocent she does not. So this is not testimony to an abortion procedure. The key is in the translations of the ancient texts and a discussion of that subject you ca refer to here that proves my point:

Numbers 5 and Abortion: Does the Old Testament Law Condone Abortion?
by Troy Lacey and Dr. Tim Chaffey on July 8, 2020

https://answersingenesis.org/sanctity-of-life/numbers-5-and-abortion/

 

[Dribble]

He found a squirrel gun. That don't make him Charles Whitman.

The point is...responsible gun owners don't leave guns laying around. Keep your head up your ass. We will keep making fun of uou

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://www.bestofbritishbeer.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/bdf8a0023a647178d416cef4d2d227f2/t/r/trad_bitters.jpg

I got your bitter water right here.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

The point is...responsible gun owners don't leave guns laying around. Keep your head up your ass. We will keep making fun of uou

It wasn't lying around. It was in his house which was entered by trespassing thieving scum.


Questions?

 

[icanhelp1]

The other problem with the abortion decision has always been the fact that there is no “right to privacy.” That was a complete fabrication which has been used to support other decisions.

A right to privacy might be a good idea, but if it is, it should be an amendment to the constitution, where it can be defined, debated, and passed into real law. But that is too much bother for modern Americans. They prefer to appoint corrupt judges, and justices to create law that can’t be properly made.

The abortion decision is the perfect example of what is wrong with this approach. Controversial laws imposed by judicial fiat always leave one side feeling cheated. They are correct to feel that way and the issue is never really settled.

Incidentally, it has occurred to me that the overturning of Roe might not really have much to do with the abortion issue itself.

It may be more about eliminating the “right to privacy” created by that decision.

How does the concept of privacy, much less a legal right to it, fit into the modern surveillance society? Your formerly private information, is a commodity that can be bought and sold at tremendous profit, or collected by government for any purpose it can dream up, without your consent or involvement.

Taking a right to privacy seriously could only hinder that and make it more expensive to do business. I think it is entirely possible that this, not some newfound concern for constitutional limitations, is the real reason the decision was overturned.

Exactly 100%, the word I would exchange for law is ruling.

 

[Rightguide]

The other problem with the abortion decision has always been the fact that there is no “right to privacy.” That was a complete fabrication which has been used to support other decisions.

A right to privacy might be a good idea, but if it is, it should be an amendment to the constitution, where it can be defined, debated, and passed into real law. But that is too much bother for modern Americans. They prefer to appoint corrupt judges, and justices to create law that can’t be properly made.

The abortion decision is the perfect example of what is wrong with this approach. Controversial laws imposed by judicial fiat always leave one side feeling cheated. They are correct to feel that way and the issue is never really settled.

Incidentally, it has occurred to me that the overturning of Roe might not really have much to do with the abortion issue itself.

It may be more about eliminating the “right to privacy” created by that decision.

How does the concept of privacy, much less a legal right to it, fit into the modern surveillance society? Your formerly private information, is a commodity that can be bought and sold at tremendous profit, or collected by government for any purpose it can dream up, without your consent or involvement.

Taking a right to privacy seriously could only hinder that and make it more expensive to do business. I think it is entirely possible that this, not some newfound concern for constitutional limitations, is the real reason the decision was overturned.

There is this understanding of the existence of a right to privacy but in practical terms little of which escapes the grasp of a court-ordered search warrant or a well-timed leak:

"The right to privacy refers to the belief that an individual's personal information should be protected from public scrutiny.23 While the Constitution does not explicitly mention the word "privacy," the Supreme Court has inferred a right to privacy from various portions of the Bill of Rights and common law. The Fourth Amendment protects individuals in their persons, homes, papers, and effects from "unreasonable searches and seizures" by the government. The First Amendment also implicitly safeguards the right to privacy in the form of freedom of thought and intellect.1 The Privacy Act of 1974 prohibits the disclosure of a record about an individual from a system of records absent the written consent of the individual, unless the disclosure is pursuant to one of twelve statutory exceptions. The Act also provides individuals with a means by which to seek access to and amendment of their records, and sets forth various agency record-keeping requirements.4 The Privacy Act of 1974 guarantees the right of individuals to be protected against an unwarranted invasion of their privacy from the collection, maintenance, use, and disclosure of personal information."
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[Bray123]

First off this is sometimes called the of Jealousy or the Ordeal Of The Bitter Water. It doesn't have anything to do with condoning abortion as we know it today. We can see this is a ritual where a jealous man brings his wife to a priest to determine by ordeal whether her pregnancy resulted from an alleged act of adultery, she drinks the bitter water and if guilty she has physical consequences of some sort but if innocent she does not. So this is not testimony to an abortion procedure. The key is in the translations of the ancient texts and a discussion of that subject you ca refer to here that proves my point:

Numbers 5 and Abortion: Does the Old Testament Law Condone Abortion?
by Troy Lacey and Dr. Tim Chaffey on July 8, 2020

https://answersingenesis.org/sanctity-of-life/numbers-5-and-abortion/

Don't worry about how some lunatics re-write it, read the words for yourself.

 

[Chobham]

Except within certain circumstances there is NO inherent 'right to privacy.' The principle of 'privacy,' what it encompasses, and what it doesn't goes back to Roman law. Essentially that privacy existed only within the confines of your own house. We have extended that to include interactions with your lawyer, doctor, and other select professionals. But even those protections collapse if the individual and select professional are engaged in a conspiracy to commit a felony.

 

[Rightguide]

• AMERICAN NEWS
• Sep 12, 2023

BREAKING: New Mexico AG says he won't defend governor in lawsuits over ban on carrying guns​

"My duty to uphold and defend the constitutional rights of every citizen takes precedence."

Hannah NightingaleWashington DC
Sep 12, 2023

In a letter sent to New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham on Tuesday, state Attorney General Raul Torrez said that his office would not be defending her administration in lawsuits related to her blocking the carrying of firearms.

"I am writing to inform you that my office will not defend your administration in the above referenced cases challenging the Public Health Emergency Order Imposing Temporary Firearm Restrictions, Drug Monitoring and Other Public Safety Measures 9the Emergency Order) issued by the Secretary of Health on September 8, 2023," the letter stated.

"Though I recognize my statutory obligation as New Mexico’s chief legal officer to defend state officials when they are sued in their official capacity, my duty to uphold and defend the constitutional rights of every citizen takes precedence."

The full letter here: https://thepostmillennial.com/break...-over-ban-on-carrying-guns?utm_campaign=64487

This is coming from a Democrat AG.

It's also interesting to note that Ted Lieu a well-known California leftist ex-Congressman has denounced the New Mexico Governor's ban on the right to carry in New Mexico: https://www.newsweek.com/ted-lieu-accuses-democrat-governor-violating-constitution-gun-order-1825833

 

[Wat_Tyler]

My former rep was three years behind me in school, six and a half feet tall, and pushing 350 pounds anyway. And he was terrified of firearms. Wanted to ban all sorts of stuff he knew nothing about. Then it would seem that he got teh cancer and kicked it. Maybe it was a punishment from Allah.

 

[HisArpy]

My former rep was three years behind me in school, six and a half feet tall, and pushing 350 pounds anyway. And he was terrified of firearms. Wanted to ban all sorts of stuff he knew nothing about. Then it would seem that he got teh cancer and kicked it. Maybe it was a punishment from Allah.

I've never understood the ability of man to blame the Heavens for bad things.