The Psychology of White Supremacy

[Lazaran]

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ineedhelp1 obviously needs help comprehending a comment that literally spelled out the reason white slavers dehumanized black people AND the reason that dehumanization is perpetuated by modern white supremacists.



ineedhelp1

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Cling to their whiteness identity?? What is that? Are you describing the Polish? The Italians? The French? Scandinavians? Is whiteness the opposite of blackness?

Most people who make a big deal out of being white have lost touch with their actual European ethnic identity. If you want to celebrate your Polish, Italian, French, or Scandinavian culture and traditions, more power to you!

The problem with calling yourself "white" is that there is no "white heritage" or "white traditions". It's a cultural vacuity.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Who the fuck is actually “white”?
There was a movie called Powder
Clowns seem to be white

White certainly didnt include the Italians.. Irish .. when it suited the “White” cause
Or Catholics.. Jews… any one they could cast as “Other”

We used to allow immigrant labor. Reagan ended that i believe. Fucking genius!!

 

[RandyRebecca]

We used to allow immigrant labor. Reagan ended that i believe. Fucking genius!!

Did he? I thought Ronald Reagan was pro-immigration, for anti-union and cheap labor purposes? Bill Clinton was even worse in this regard, with NAFTA and his attacks on welfare, summed up by Ross Perot's comment during a 1992 presidential election debate that NAFTA would mean "a giant sucking sound down south" (i.e. Mexico).

 

[ll74]

Earth to fucking dumbass, I am literally talking about Europe.

Yes dumbass, those are my ethnic homelands.

You weren't born there.

So when they say, "go back to where you came from*....you don't go to Europe

All people on Earth come from two ethnic homelands.

 

[ll74]

If I wanted to know the psychology of a belief system, I’d start by hearing from the people who believe it - not from those who despise them.

What do you think this thread was created for?

 

[ll74]

Leftists will never understand this.

They think they can define themselves and define their enemies at the same time with no logical or moral inconsistency.

Self reflection is fun

 

[ll74]

This is irrelevant.

My parents raised me based on how they were raised and their parents raised them based on how their parents’ parents raised them…until you wind up in Europe.

I am a direct product of Europe, not only genetically but culturally as well.

Lol....do they?

May want to research that position a bit more.

You're not a direct product of Europe. You're a direct product of the United States.

And you, for sure, are a direct product of racism.

I absolutely doubt that you have any real idea of your genealogy outside of your delusions

 

[ll74]

Nothing I said can be disputed. Your upbringing comes from the same source(and literally the same European countries as mine as well).

Of course it can be disputed.....that's dumb
I disputed it.

As for being a product of the United States, my politics is Americanized to an extent because of the Constitution, but America itself was originally founded as a pan European state; it was supposed to be a new Europe rather than it’s own unique thing and the influences from England and Germany and France and even Ireland can be seen very clearly in early America.

Lol.....twisting pretzels logic


This is what you need to believe because not having the proper amount of white in your genetics would make your head explode

 

[Bray123]

America started as an English colony with remnants of colonies from other European countries being added on and immigrants from all over Europe coming in. This is the history of this country whether you like it or not.

Nuh uh. America started as settlements of people from Asia, then a few folks from Scandinavia and eventually Spain & Italy.
England came a lot later.

 

[ll74]

“Nuh uh” is not disputing something

May want to research that one too

May also look into the evidence provided to prove your point that is being disputed.
(Hint: "uh huh")

America started as an English colony with remnants of colonies from other European countries being added on and immigrants from all over Europe coming in. This is the history of this country whether you like it or not.

So all Americans are a product of Europeans.

Cool.

See, I can use your pretzel logic too.

No, if I was not white I would simply exist as what and who I am while appreciating that(although that would be considerably more difficult if I was biracial or something).

Of course you would

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Nothing I said can be disputed. Your upbringing comes from the same source(and literally the same European countries as mine as well).

As for being a product of the United States, my politics is Americanized to an extent because of the Constitution, but America itself was originally founded as a pan European state; it was supposed to be a new Europe rather than it’s own unique thing and the influences from England and Germany and France and even Ireland can be seen very clearly in early America.

American culture was also heavily influenced by African culture. There’s nothing more American than Jazz and Rock and Roll.

 

[ll74]

American culture was also heavily influenced by African culture. There’s nothing more American than Jazz and Rock and Roll.

Blues

 

[Bray123]

No, if I were not white

You may as well learn some English alongside the history.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

That isn’t America’s origin story, that is the history of the land that America is located on before America was founded.

Native Americans were here first. There were large cities in the Americas long before the Europeans arrived. And Enlightenment ideas about freedom were heavily influenced by Native American political thinkers.

 

[RoryN]

you know that my arguments and world view are much more complex than that

Bhuahahahaha!

 

[ll74]

Yes?

Thanks for confirming.

So black Americans have white history and white Americans have black history

This is why I call you a gnat. You know what I said before about other races not being inferior, you know that my arguments and world view are much more complex than that but yet you continue to buzz in my ear with nonsense regardless.

Yes, I get that you think you're not a racist shit.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

This is why I say that leftists don’t understand what nations are.

America is a nation, the Native American tribes were also distinct nations. It is not about the land, it is about the people on that land and what they created. That is why in Canada North American natives are called “FIRST NATIONS”; their nations were different from America and Canada.

Without the founders America literally doesn’t ever come to be, but without Native Americans America still gets founded from a British colony and is very much like the America we got.

For a modern example of what I am talking about, let’s go back to Europe again; when European countries cease to resemble what they were with indigenous Europeans running them then those European nations(Britain, Germany, France, Italy etc)will then take the shape of indigenous Europeans themselves(white people) and the landmass known as Europe as well as the countries within will no longer be the representation of those nations primarily.

Native Americans had their own political ideas different from the Europeans. The Founding Fathers’ ideas of Freedom came directly from the colonists’ contact with indigenous nations. Europe in the 18th century was governed by aristocrats. Contact with the different polity of the New World shook that system up.

 

[ll74]

This is completely false. Colonists literally came to America to flee religious persecution, they already had a sense of freedom from that.

They all came here for that?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

This is completely false. Colonists literally came to America to flee religious persecution, they already had a sense of freedom from that.

The initial Puritan colonies were repressive theocracies. They had a perpetual problem with people slipping away to live freely among the neighboring Indians.

 

[ll74]

The founders were not influenced by ancient hippies and neither was the Enlightenment.

The point of the colonies was that you didn’t have to worry what religion your king had.

So our country wasn't founded on christianity.

I agree.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The founders were not influenced by ancient hippies and neither was the Enlightenment.

The point of the colonies was that you didn’t have to worry what religion your king had.

Don’t you find it curious that after two millennia of repressive monarchy, Europeans should abruptly rediscover the ideals of freedom and democracy only a few decades after they came in contact with Native American governments like the Iroquois Confederation?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

“Nuh uh” is not disputing something

I brought up hormones from the get go, like threads ago when you were cowering under your iggy bunker making shit up based upon second hand information and manipulated posts. And I never said "Nuh uh! it's the chromosomes! They're magic" you liar.

Oh look a "Nuh uh!" siting.....

 

[ll74]

No, it just wasn’t based on a monarchy.

A good pious Christian lifestyle was still very much the expected norm.

So the religion of one person was replaced by the religion of a few.

Neat.

That seems productive.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

If I wanted to know the psychology of a belief system, I’d start by hearing from the people who believe it - not from those who despise them.

That’s why I’ve used this thread to directly ask QueanKing about the origins of his beliefs. If you have insight into the psychology of white supremacy, please share it.