Serious question to Trump voters

[Fuzzy1975]

Like someone else posted Truman vs Dewey.

LOL Polls are a part of Statistics, but polls unlike vote counts are not the same. Because someone 70 some years ago tried to get the 'scoop" on a story by using polls, bears no relation to the modern day vote counting, on which today's Statistic projections are based....nice try though.

 

[TrailerHitch]

LOL Polls are a part of Statistics, but polls unlike vote counts are not the same. Because someone 70 some years ago tried to get the 'scoop" on a story by using polls, bears no relation to the modern day vote counting, on which today's Statistic projections are based....nice try though.

You are so full of shit. You just talk in circles. Either every vote counts, so we shouldn't "Statistically" announce a winner, OR, after you predict a winner no more votes count because you've already decide who won.

 

[phrodeau]

You are so full of shit. You just talk in circles. Either every vote counts, so we shouldn't "Statistically" announce a winner, OR, after you predict a winner no more votes count because you've already decide who won.

Winners are only announced early by the press. The EC ballots aren’t filled out until December.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Why do leftists have no shame in admitting they failed history class in grade school?

Look at any grade school US history textbook from 2000 to 2008 and you will find a section talking about freed slaves going back to the plantation to get an income after the civil war, that is literally standard in the curriculum of every state, it is not a Florida thing. And give me a fucking break about the 3/5ths nonsense, you would be laughed out of an elementary schoolhouse in the 1800s Deep South by Cletus himself for uttering that stupidity.

Yes they went back to the only available jobs. Florida is trying to pretend slavery was good.

 

[dkovic77]

The 3/5ths compromise was used to undermine the South while at the same time maintaining the value of slaves as people.

The North couldn’t not count the slaves as a person for representation but at the same time they couldn’t give the South what they wanted because the South didn’t actually think the slaves were people themselves so they said the slaves counted as 3/5ths of a vote to slightly favor the personhood of the slave but damage the representation at the same time.

Go back to grade school.

Check population numbers with and without the enslaved counting as 3/5 and then talk about how it undermined the south.

You are allowed to be wrong, just under-informed.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Winners are only announced early by the press. The EC ballots aren’t filled out until December.

Golly Super Genius...Who does the press get their data from on vote counts? And golly how does the press estimate EC votes on ELECTION NIGHT?

 

[dkovic77]

No, they went to do the jobs that they were qualified for and could handle. Slavery gave them that skill set which they later used to make money.

Florida is saying exactly what the textbooks have been saying for decades.

Only after the black codes made it illegal to be without work. Big incentive there.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You are so full of shit. You just talk in circles. Either every vote counts, so we shouldn't "Statistically" announce a winner, OR, after you predict a winner no more votes count because you've already decide who won.

What?> lol two separate points bought up by you. Trying to refute my posts. Don't try and shoot the messenger...just admit you don't understand math (statistics in this case), the vast majority of people fall in that group, it's not something to be embarrassed about.

 

[phrodeau]

And golly how does the press estimate EC votes on ELECTION NIGHT?

Statistics, dumbass.

 

[YDB95]

There were plenty of freed slaves who worked on plantations before the black codes.

Not as many as you undoubtedly believe.
And no, history books did not argue that slavery was beneficial to anyone but the slave owners.

 

[TrailerHitch]

What?> lol two separate points bought up by you. Trying to refute my posts. Don't try and shoot the messenger...just admit you don't understand math (statistics in this case), the vast majority of people fall in that group, it's not something to be embarrassed about.

Fuck off with your theoretical nonsense. Actual real counted votes will always outweigh your bull shit statistical analysis. If your statistics mean more than real votes then admit after the statistics supposedly show the winner then the rest of the votes don't matter. Or admit you are full of shit and are talking out of your ass.

 

[PaxNurgle]

No, they went to do the jobs that they were qualified for and could handle. Slavery gave them that skill set which they later used to make money.

Florida is saying exactly what the textbooks have been saying for decades.

Defending slavery now are we? Really?

You know why this board sucks?
Because of Racist goons like this, who keep coming back like a bad hot dog burp, screen name after screen name. Take it to the fucking Stormfront board, Mister Wizard.

 

[YDB95]

Color me unsurprised that you know what they'd say about anything at Stormfront!

 

[dkovic77]

If the slaves counted as a whole person then the South would have had even more power and they could import even more slaves to gain even more still(directly incentivizing slavery). By only counting them as 3/5ths the South had to basically bring 2 slaves over for every white immigrant from Europe that the North got or every escaped slave that fled North, that is completely unsustainable for the South.

Because of the 3/5ths compromise the South would have had to end slavery to avoid completely losing power at the federal level if the Civil War didn’t happen.

Math isn’t strong for you is it?

If the south was to be really hindered, counting them at zero would have done it.

The south is able to use this portion of count the 4 million enslaved folks towards their numbers.

Now I’m sure I’m your southern Dixie history classes it’s down played the boost to southern life the addition of these enslaved people, but any additional population (and they were able to negotiate 3/5) helps them. As population far outpaces in the north, the only thing they have to cling to is their booming enslaved population.

It helps the psyche of the former slave holding descendants to think 3/5 hurt the south.

 

[Dribble]

I always wanted to be a cotton-picker. Such a great way to feed my family

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Fuck off with your theoretical nonsense. Actual real counted votes will always outweigh your bull shit statistical analysis. If your statistics mean more than real votes then admit after the statistics supposedly show the winner then the rest of the votes don't matter. Or admit you are full of shit and are talking out of your ass.

Awww look who's resorting to cursing now....Well I guess that is to be expected, since you can't seem to grasp Statistics.

 

[ll74]

No one defends slavery anymore anywhere outside of where it is still legal you idiot. You can even go to Stormfront and they will tell you that chattel slavery should have never happened because that would mean there wouldn’t be black people in this country to any great degree.

The point is that logically slavery is unpaid labor so when that job that you did without getting paid becomes a job that pays then you can use the experience you have as a unpaid laborer to make money and possibly make a living doing what you have done a considerable part of your life similar to being an apprentice or something.

There are obviously better and more ethical ways to get this experience and this skill set but it is a way to get it nonetheless and it will end up benefiting freed slaves in the end.

It wasn't unpaid labor. It was forced labor. Slavery wasnt a fucking internship. Making a choice to do a job for free or not for free is a choice.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

If you have done it for decades under a lot worse conditions then getting paid for doing something you are by all accounts an expert at is not too bad when people are starving for work everywhere.

Try your own advice sometime, oh wait you can't. Guess you're just out of luck to get to live that experience and see how it compares to your own views, eh?

 

[ll74]

It was forced unpaid labor but the point is that it was labor and slaves did develop skills from it that they didn’t have before.

They were forced to do things they didn't want to do.

Nobody is defending slavery here, what is in dispute is the asinine idea that slaves didn’t develop something from their years of hard work.

You're trying to say that there were positive things that came from slavery. That is a defense of slavery, whether you recognize that or not. The "skills" they developed did not amount to anything but saying "yes sir" and not to scream when being beaten.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

anti-white stuff.

LMFAO.......anti-white....whats next? You're a fucking laugh a minute.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

And you dumbasses wonder why no white person with more than 2 brain cells votes for your party.

And what party is that? I'm betting you can't get that one right. In fact I'm willing to make a wager on it. Are you?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You either voted for Biden or you are part of a left wing party equivalent in another country, either way you idiots are all the same worthless trash.

I asked if you would make a wager? Not for you to make a guess. Are you really that obtuse?

 

[ll74]

Yes, hard times create strong men. Being a strong man is a good thing no matter what it took for you to get there.

They learned quite a bit more than that but you don’t know anything other than fake shit like Roots.

Slavery isn't hard times. Slavery is forced labor.

As I said, you ARE defending slavery as something beneficial to anyone who was a slave. Freedom to do work and put yourself through hardship is beneficial. Being forced to do labor,get beat, be taken from your family, thrown on a boat in chains was not,.at all, beneficial. Roots was a good show that told a story, because it gave a small window into the hell that was slavery.

It did create a culture that is unique in spite of the hell they went through, not as a benefit of the process.

 

[ll74]

Unlike you I educate myself on topics.

When forums I frequented started talking about Stormfront in the mid 2000s I went over there to see what they were actually saying and to find out what I agreed or disagreed with them on and I ultimately concluded that they are too angry to have a productive conversation with on anything other than being against anti-white stuff.

Oh ...I remember you now. You're the guy who was kicked off of white supremacist sites so obviously you aren't a white supremacist.

Fun

Your old user name escapes me.

 

[adrina]

Your old user name escapes me.

Which one?