Serious question to Trump voters

[Rightguide]

Dumping the Constitution would be a step in the right direction but you're obsession with Marx is absurd. Have you even read anything by him?

Probably everything he ever wrote and much of what his disciples have written. How about you?

 

[Rightguide]

You'd be correct. But I'm sure you can sum it up pretty easily since you obviously did. Highlight reel please?

Communism is evil.

 

[schism666]

There's a Pol Pot mentality developing in the radical American left.

you're a lunatic.

They do want to solve the "problem" of the 70 to 80 million "Trump supporters"

that's less than a 3rd of the population. you meant 70-80 million cult voters, dumbfuck.

 

[dkovic77]

lol, no Mr. I don't carry water for Trump", but your government is a form of Democracy,just as the Canadian Parliamentarian form is. Yes it's correct to name the system you use, but it is not correct to not call it a "Democracy".

We had this discussion a few years back, so I'm not gonna bother re-educating you on it. Seems you're a poor study. I doubt anyone here is surprised by your lack of an education. They teach a lot more about Government in a Political Science University course, than the instruction students are given in some butt fuck high school in Hickville USA.

Oh .. you forget, can’t help had a security clearance at one point. Just not sure what kind of clearance though.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Oh .. you forget, can’t help had a security clearance at one point. Just not sure what kind of clearance though.

Umm qualifying for a "security clearance" doesn't equal being "educated". One trait I note of 90% of the RWCJ posters here, none have had any education beyond the K-12 system.

 

[lovecraft68]

Right now my voting for 2024 would be

I'd consider Kennedy, but no way the Dems would give him the nomination because he talks about unity and they don't want that-nor does the right for that matter
If Gabbard ran as an Indy I would vote for her.
If neither of those things happen....its Jo Jorgensen....again because I voted for her in 2020 as I refuse to buy into the propaganda pushed by both sides that I'm throwing my vote away if its not for a left or right candidate.

Truth is anyone who votes left or right for the most part is throwing their vote away, they're just to brainwashed to see that.

2024's bi partisan slogan should be "Vote for more fear, hate, division and lies."

 

[zipman]

Right now my voting for 2024 would be

I'd consider Kennedy, but no way the Dems would give him the nomination because he talks about unity and they don't want that-nor does the right for that matter
If Gabbard ran as an Indy I would vote for her.
If neither of those things happen....its Jo Jorgensen....again because I voted for her in 2020 as I refuse to buy into the propaganda pushed by both sides that I'm throwing my vote away if its not for a left or right candidate.

Truth is anyone who votes left or right for the most part is throwing their vote away, they're just to brainwashed to see that.

2024's bi partisan slogan should be "Vote for more fear, hate, division and lies."

No one gives a fuck who you would vote for, you moron.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Listen Hitch, there is no "pure Democracy". There is only the meaning of the word "Democracy", and the forms of Government it can take.

You can have a "First past the Post" elections, or like in the US "Weighted voting" elections or you can have "Ranked voting" elections. There are a lot of "mechanics" of how representatives get "elected to their office". But they share the same common denominator, people get to vote in a regular, free and open for scrutiny manner for candidates for those offices.

Now if for example; your President election was decide by a coin toss, or guessing a number between one or ten, or maybe though "trial by combat", or who can spell their name first in the snow, none of those methods are "Democratic".

See how this works? I'm sorry that in the US your school civics teachers were misinformed, but you're now an adult, you should be able to self educate!

Pure and simple, last time, if we were a true federal democracy then the president would be elected by the popular vote. With the system currently in place a president could win the electoral college and still lose the popular vote. That's why federally we are a republic.

None of your fill in the blank blather means jack squat. The only true democracy is at local and state level elections. Sorry to burst your bubble. You can keep repeating nonsense but you will still be wrong.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Perhaps this will help, although Fuzynuts is anal retentive.

“The key difference between a democracy and a republic lies in the limits placed on government by the law, which has implications for minority rights. Both forms of government tend to use a representational system — i.e., citizens vote to elect politicians to represent their interests and form the government. In a republic, a constitution or charter of rights protects certain inalienable rights that cannot be taken away by the government, even if it has been elected by a majority of voters. In a "pure democracy," the majority is not restrained in this way and can impose its will on the minority.”

It’s hard for a Canadian Marxist to understand our form of government.

Add to that the president can win the electoral college and lose the popular vote and he still has won the presidency.

 

[TrailerHitch]

what the fuck are you on about?

It's really quite simple. Each state votes for the president individually, then their electoral college representatives vote for the president. It is not a simple popular vote majority. In fact the candidate that becomes president could lose the popular vote and still win the electoral vote. Perhaps you are not an American citizen and didn't learn that in junior high civics class.

 

[schism666]

trump voters are not serious people so how can they answer a serious question?

Just because you go to is to insult people doesn't mean in any way, shape or form that you are correct in this case. The vote for president is not democracy because it is not determined by popular vote. Sorry if that is beyond your ability to understand, but it is the truth.

what the fuck are you on about?

It's really quite simple. Each state votes for the president individually, then their electoral college representatives vote for the president. It is not a simple popular vote majority. In fact the candidate that becomes president could lose the popular vote and still win the electoral vote. Perhaps you are not an American citizen and didn't learn that in junior high civics class.

your replies to my posts are no way relevant to my posts, dumbass.

i never mentioned the electoral or popular vote yet you went on 2 different diatribes about them, once again proving that you are not a serious person.

 

[icanhelp1]

Add to that the president can win the electoral college and lose the popular vote and he still has won the presidency.

That’s what the lunes banter about. They hang their hats on the fact Hillary beat Trump in the popular vote, Hillary has whined for years that Trump was an illegitimate president and it was stolen from her. But when Trump says the same thing they use their corrupt legal system and press charges.

 

[TrailerHitch]

As far as you are concerned yess the Communist political action is the correct path. But your standard for calling someone a commie is someone who thinks the government is a tool and we're foolish not to wield it. We know what amazing things it can do and has done even if we often do it the wrong way.

The reality is when the Left says "Lets look at Europe, cus this program, this one and this one seem to work. Lets copy paste and then see if we can improve it, sure its socialist commie but it works." The Right responds that they aren't socialist commies then turn around and argue if we emulate them all Republicans will be sent to Alaska to mine gold or whatever.

Every communist country has had a hierarchy similar to royalty, and a working class, often impoverished. They use military force, secret police, imprisonment, and execution to control the population. They are no better than a capitalist society because none has followed a true communist economic system. If they did the wealth of the country would be shared equally among the entire population, not centrally controlled by the elite.

Need examples? The Soviet Union, Communist China, and Cambodia.

 

[TrailerHitch]

your replies to my posts are no way relevant to my posts, dumbass.

i never mentioned the electoral or popular vote yet you went on 2 different diatribes about them, once again proving that you are not a serious person.

And you are? Dude you are a joke.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

last time,

LOL sure it's your last time,you fucking went on for days over the Assault rifle definition, this time it's on the word "Democracy" so please keep trying to prove every Dictionary in the world is wrong. It's entertaining as hell.

None of your fill in the blank blather means jack squat. The only true democracy is at local and state level elections. Sorry to burst your bubble. You can keep repeating nonsense but you will still be wrong.

Yes, sure, whatever, go find just one example of the definition in a Dictionary of the word "Democracy" that shows your system of elections doesn't fall under "Democracy".

 

[TrailerHitch]

Dumping the Constitution would be a step in the right direction but you're obsession with Marx is absurd. Have you even read anything by him? Cus if not that renders your opinion moot. Are you not aware of BLM, what Desantis and Abbot are doing? What Trump did to Muslims? The side trying to fight for liberty is NOT the right. Not even close. We can disagree on the best way to solve this or that but not who the villians are at this point.

Nobody wants to deal with you "once and for all" since that implies death. We want you to stop abusing how busted the system is and if the left ever starts playing by Republican rules the Country is toast. I mean I hope I'm wrong but there is no reason to think we couldn't end up without a Supreme Court at all. Both sides stall, more of them die and well that's one problem solved.

Since TRUE communism, which is an economic system, not a governing system, has never been tried it is impossible to know whether it would work or not.

 

[icanhelp1]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/democracy-and-republic

Our top priority for our Constitutional Republic should be “TAMPER-FREE VOTING SYSTEM.” We should move election voting processes back to hard copy and institute as close to “tamper proof” as possible for all functions within the system.

Need to set a specific time at the end of the day to end voting. Vote count should not extend past one day. We should know by the end of the day who won.

 

[ll74]

Need to set a specific time at the end of the day to end voting. Vote count should not extend past on day. We should know by the end of the day who won.

This is not possible. The absentee votes in some states are counted after the election day votes. You would need to change their laws to even attempt it.

 

[TrailerHitch]

LOL sure it's your last time,you fucking went on for days over the Assault rifle definition, this time it's on the word "Democracy" so please keep trying to prove every Dictionary in the world is wrong. It's entertaining as hell.

Yes, sure, whatever, go find just one example of the definition in a Dictionary of the word "Democracy" that shows your system of elections doesn't fall under "Democracy".

Yawn...Blathering louder doesn't erase your stupidity. I tried to show you why you were wrong. But you refuse to learn basic civics so why waste typing time. Revel in your stupidity you seem at home there.

 

[icanhelp1]

This is not possible. The absentee votes in some states are counted after the election day votes. You would need to change their laws to even attempt it.

Change the rule.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Change the rule.

Exactly, no absentee votes or mail in votes should be allowed after election day. PERIOD.

 

[ll74]

Great point. Perhaps all absentee votes should be required to have totals tallied by a reasonable date before election day.

Each state does their own thing

 

[icanhelp1]

Yawn...Blathering louder doesn't erase your stupidity. I tried to show you why you were wrong. But you refuse to learn basic civics so why waste typing time. Revel in your stupidity you seem at home there.

FUZZYNUTS isn’t your average dumbass, it’s the only thing he excels at. He achieved * SUMMA CUM LAUDE* status in stupidpity.

 

[ll74]

Exactly, no absentee votes or mail in votes should be allowed after election day. PERIOD.

Postmarks after election day aren't allowed, in any state.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Every communist country has had a hierarchy similar to royalty, and a working class, often impoverished. They use military force, secret police, imprisonment, and execution to control the population. They are no better than a capitalist society because none has followed a true communist economic system. If they did the wealth of the country would be shared equally among the entire population, not centrally controlled by the elite.

Need examples? The Soviet Union, Communist China, and Cambodia.

You mean like the Trumps, Bushs, Clintons, Kennedys and Hiltons? You mean like 60% of Americans are 1 pay check away from homelessness? You mean the out of control police force to the point that we per capita have the highest prison rate and are probably pretty high up on slave labor?

Wait are you arguing that communism would work if the right people ran it? Cus while I don't believe that the reality is that only the right speaks of communism to begin with.