the blindside controversy

[butters]

no adoption, just conservatorship

be an interesting case and considering the whole premise of the book and movie depend on the 'payoff' of the adoption, and he didn't even realise the papers they had him sign weren't adoption papers and a whole lot of money's been made... and then why wasn't he offered the choice of opting out of conservatorship once he turned 18? Kinda like they were treating him as mentally challenged

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

no adoption, just conservatorship

be an interesting case and considering the whole premise of the book and movie depend on the 'payoff' of the adoption, and he didn't even realise the papers they had him sign weren't adoption papers and a whole lot of money's been made... and then why wasn't he offered the choice of opting out of conservatorship once he turned 18? Kinda like they were treating him as mentally challenged

That is so sleazy!

 

[butters]

That is so sleazy!

well, all the facts and both sides still have to come out in court, but they held full control over his money, and his face & story made a lot of money which they state was 'split 5 ways'.
their claim that they had to do the conservator thing to get him into Old Miss is under question given the adults were both alumni (i believe it was both and not just the woman).
if i trusted the adults telling me they were adopting me and that the papers i signed were adoption papers, and didn't find out about it till years and years and a lot of money under the bridge, i'd be kinda pissed, too.

don't know how this one will pan out but it'll be interesting to see. I do want to know WHY they didn't actually adopt him.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Oher’s side:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...doption-was-lie-family-took-all-film-proceeds


Tuohy family response.
https://www.npr.org/2023/08/16/1193...el-oher-tuohy-family-responds-conservatorship

 

[RoryN]

Sad turn of events all around.

 

[ll74]

Conservatorship truly sounds like an easy way for people to swindle others out of money.

 

[Dribble]

This is messed.

In the end...both lose.

 

[schism666]

Conservatorship truly sounds like an easy way for people to swindle others out of money.

 

[RoryN]

Funny you posted that; breaking news is that Britney is getting another divorce.

 

[butters]

Sad turn of events all around.

indeed. the least of it being those who truly loved the story of the movie like H as he's a real softy for a happy ending. life can be so shitty

Conservatorship truly sounds like an easy way for people to swindle others out of money.

it does.. still, the facts of the case have yet to be fully explored so while i know what my immediate reaction is i'll try not to let that 'blindside' me

 

[jomar]

I guess we’ll see. The tuohy’s claim oher tried to shake them down for 15 million at one point. If they have proof of that being done in a certain manner it undermines oher’s claim. Also, they’re millionaires, why quibble over a couple hundred thousand or whatever.

Sad all around indeed.

 

[Pad_Foot]

All that, but the Oscar was still well deserved!!

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The net worth figures in this article could be way off but he was a highly paid LT in the NFL. The NFL contract figures are legit but subject to many critical caveats (guaranteed vs not, incentives, etc.) But no matter what, he made many millions over his NFL career. Key questions…

- how much is left? (Did he save and invest wisely?)

- did the Tuohy’s as conservators control and confiscate any of that?

https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/celebrity-net-worth/2023/08/16/64dce0b1ca4741a3278b4576.html

 

[butters]

I guess we’ll see. The tuohy’s claim oher tried to shake them down for 15 million at one point. If they have proof of that being done in a certain manner it undermines oher’s claim. Also, they’re millionaires, why quibble over a couple hundred thousand or whatever.

Sad all around indeed.

one family's shakedown is another man's mine-by-rights. time will tell.

maybe they were a great family thinking they were doing their best for him, and Oher turned out to be some kind of loser, but i can't wrap my head around them letting him believe (as the book and movie would have it) that they adopted him when what they did was take financial control of his affairs.

That control is then supposed to be leveraged only in his best interests and why do they STILL have it, even after this supposed 'shakedown'? It should have been given directly back to him (if he wanted to have it) when he was 18, or 21, or whatever age once he became an adult. WHY are they only now saying they won't fight giving it up if that's what Michael wants? Why on earth would there be a fight since they shouldn't have it now at all, unless he's been found intellectually challenged enough to warrant them 'helping' him as conservatories?

 

[jomar]

one family's shakedown is another man's mine-by-rights. time will tell.

maybe they were a great family thinking they were doing their best for him, and Oher turned out to be some kind of loser, but i can't wrap my head around them letting him believe (as the book and movie would have it) that they adopted him when what they did was take financial control of his affairs.

That control is then supposed to be leveraged only in his best interests and why do they STILL have it, even after this supposed 'shakedown'? It should have been given directly back to him (if he wanted to have it) when he was 18, or 21, or whatever age once he became an adult. WHY are they only now saying they won't fight giving it up if that's what Michael wants? Why on earth would there be a fight since they shouldn't have it now at all, unless he's been found intellectually challenged enough to warrant them 'helping' him as conservatories?

Yeah, I’m not taking sides. Maybe good intentions and bad advice. Maybe this is the first time he questioned it. He might be intellectually challenged, but the book was more like he couldn’t do school because he never went and didn’t know how.

BTW, Michael Lewis books are really good.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

He was a great player, it was a great movie, and Sandra Bullock still has a great ass. It appears neither side is hurting for money. It’s a mysterious story. The only thing I feel sure of is lawyers are making money and future documentaries are coming on streaming channels soon.

 

[ll74]

He was a great player, it was a great movie, and Sandra Bullock still has a great ass. It appears neither side is hurting for money. It’s a mysterious story. The only thing I feel sure of is lawyers are making money and future documentaries are coming on streaming channels soon.

I think what confuses people is that it's not about money.

Because people are selfish money grubbing assholes.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I think what confuses people is that it's not about money.

Because people are selfish money grubbing assholes.

Might not be about the money. Remains to be seen what it’s about.

 

[ll74]

Might not be about the money. Remains to be seen what it’s about.

It's not about the money

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It's not about the money

Not betting against that theory. Given the time that’s elapsed, I can’t help but wonder if some some shady lawyers are exploiting a wealthy man who grew up under difficult circumstances as a child and was taken in by wealthy people. Will keep following this one.

 

[butters]

tuohy family admit they never intended to adopt Michael.

they said they referred to him time to time as 'son' and used the term 'adopted son' as a colloquial expression rather than expecting people to take it factually. Odd, though, that the film made such a big deal out of them ACTUALLY adopting Oher and that's what made the movie such a big hit... so like many other 'based on true life story' it deviates quite strongly from the facts in order to make a 'good' movie.

it's claimed that Oher knew about the situation, but it's not defined as to how much he knew or understood and when. It honestly sounds like they helped get the athlete the foot-up he needed to showcase his talents but exploited him via the film and monies made from it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...tp&cvid=a766ec0afd1e449ab4f46322f0fbf042&ei=8

 

[Lazaran]

tuohy family admit they never intended to adopt Michael.

they said they referred to him time to time as 'son' and used the term 'adopted son' as a colloquial expression rather than expecting people to take it factually. Odd, though, that the film made such a big deal out of them ACTUALLY adopting Oher and that's what made the movie such a big hit... so like many other 'based on true life story' it deviates quite strongly from the facts in order to make a 'good' movie.

it's claimed that Oher knew about the situation, but it's not defined as to how much he knew or understood and when. It honestly sounds like they helped get the athlete the foot-up he needed to showcase his talents but exploited him via the film and monies made from it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...tp&cvid=a766ec0afd1e449ab4f46322f0fbf042&ei=8

No reason to pick a side in this case.

Everybody involved did pretty damn well because of the relationship.

JMTCW.

 

[jomar]

It honestly sounds like they helped get the athlete the foot-up he needed to showcase his talents but exploited him via the film and monies made from it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...tp&cvid=a766ec0afd1e449ab4f46322f0fbf042&ei=8

Maybe, but for some reason I got the impression everyone was doing well with oher in the NFL and all so they split the money from the movie

 

[butters]

Maybe, but for some reason I got the impression everyone was doing well with oher in the NFL and all so they split the money from the movie

i think this is what it'll come down to... whether or not they managed his athletic money fairly aka these were HIS earnings and their conservatorship was legally supposed to ensure the best financial protections & gains for him; why he wasn't allowed to take control of his own monetary affairs as soon as he was an adult; when he was made fully aware he was never adopted; and how the proceeds from the movie were split...did he receive his 'fair' share.

 

[Dribble]

Judge severed the conservership today with quite a damning opinion against the Touhy family. She also allowed the case to continue