SHOCK REPORT! U.S. Government in Possession of several UFOs (Intact and Partially Intact)

[jaF0]

I'm thinking somebody zoomed right through BigDummy's head and left a black hole.


Maybe it was Gordon Shumway.

 

[BluesDriver66]

It's not me. Check the responses from other members, bub.

Whatever point you were trying to make in here, the consensus is that you lost the plot. That's on you. It happens frequently to stupid people.

I don't need the confirmation of the other people in your bubble. I'll go with experts in their field and not some wankers on a porn board. Astrophysicists like this guy.


Theoretical physicist and science popularizer Michio Kaku is no stranger to bold claims about alien life. His recent message to his fellow scientists regarding UFOs is no exception.

"I think it is a legitimate scientific question to ask where these UFO sightings come from," Kaku said in a tweet, later adding "Imagine if the aliens are millions of years more advanced than us; new laws of physics open up, so keep an open mind."

https://futurism.com/the-byte/michio-kaku-scientists-ufos



Or this guy.


Abraham “Avi” Loeb got the idea to hunt for aliens from cable TV. In June 2021, Loeb, an astrophysicist at Harvard University, was at home, watching NASA Administrator Bill Nelson on CNN talking about recent UFO incidents involving U.S. Navy pilots.

In July, Loeb unveiled the Galileo Project, which he says was designed in the spirit of the revolutionary Italian astronomer Galileo Galilei. (The tagline is “Daring to look through new telescopes.”) The overarching goal of the $1.8 million project is to search for evidence of extraterrestrial technology, and one branch is traditional: analyzing possible interstellar objects spotted deep in space by mountaintop observatories. More controversial is the construction of a network of rooftop cameras designed to capture any UFOs prowling through Earth’s atmosphere. After enlisting more than three dozen astronomers and engineers in the project...

https://www.science.org/content/article/why-is-harvard-astrophysicist-working-with-ufo-buffs

 

[drusus]

I don't need the confirmation of the other people in your bubble. I'll go with experts in their field and not some wankers on a porn board.

There's an awful lot of argument by authority in your posts but little actual substance. 'This person was in the military.' 'That person has a lot of medals'. While most people would respect Edgar Mitchell's military and space career, his ideas post Apollo were somewhat batshit. People that used to hold a position of authority come out with this stuff all the time, and it never goes beyond them publishing a book and pushing a press release.

https://www.salon.com/2020/12/10/why-do-smart-people-lie-about-alien-encounters/

Your core claim is that the (US) Government has a collection of alien spacecraft hidden away and are covering it up. For all of the talk, the only bit of evidence you've given is the same photograph of a black blob in the middle of a grey frame. Can you point to any actual description of these spacecraft? How big are they? What color? Do they have wings, windows, wheels? Are they all the same? So much talk in alien watching circles of cover ups yet no one seems to ask the most basic questions.

You're also the OP, so any complaints about this being a 'porn board' are entirely down to you.

 

[coati]

So, to sum up, we've got one Deplorable conspiracy theorist rattling off a list of "authorities" allegedly supporting his SHOCK REPORT about flying saucers piloted by non human aliens.

Then, another Deplorable entered this virtual reality circle jerk to "authoritatively" state it is theoretically possible for matter to exceed the speed of light.

Then, a third Deplorable, the inventor of carbon water, showed up to authoritatively introduce us to the "laws of time".

It's no damned wonder that we now have a major political party based on the denial of empirical evidence. Now that delusional people have a medium for expressing their magical thinking to each other, they regularly assume reality is anything they want it to be.

 

[AlexBailey]

Back in high school a friend and I were driving along a dark road on our way back from the new movie “Predator” about aliens who came to Earth to hunt humans for sport.

A light in the sky caught our attention- it looked like a giant flashlight flying backwards streaking across the sky, gaining altitude and momentum at a severe angle until it suddenly disappeared.

We were spooked!

The next day we heard there had been a missile test at an Air Force base a few hundred miles away.

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There’s also a place locally where high tension power lines stretch across a corner of a lake. The span is so long and the wind gets heavy enough that they attached insulating spheres on each of the three cables so they won’t slap together and short out in high winds.

There have been many “UFO” sightings reporting three saucers in the area.

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Really though, with the billions and billions of stars in the universe (read that with Carl Sagan’s voice) the odds against us being the most advanced civilization of all time are pretty high.

Numerous stories from various religions talk of higher beings visiting from the heavens….

I really do want to believe and I think off-hand dismissals are far more foolish than hopeful speculation.

 

[coati]

I really do want to believe and I think off-hand dismissals are far more foolish than hopeful speculation.

Off-hand dismissals are not what is taking place on this thread.

Show us the flying saucers in a museum, along with the proof that they could not have been built by humans. Don't give us hearsay evidence about a government conspiracy. Don't tell us about the authorities who allegedly saw or theorized about the flying saucers.

It ain't rocket surgery, so don't make excuses for the conspiracy theory spun on this thread.

 

[AlexBailey]

“Rocket surgery”?

I’m not saying there is any available objective proof but lack of proof is not evidence of non-existence.


A few years back I was arguing with an old scientist about the viability of self-driving cars. He said there was no way it could happen and even if it were, it was absolutely impossible that states would allow computers to drive in traffic with humans.

I had fun messing with him when it happened.


Aliens will always be a thing of fantasy… until they aren’t.

 

[jaF0]

Comer's out to take the crown for the dumbest fuck in Congress.

House Oversight plans UFO hearing after unconfirmed claims of crashed alien spacecraft​

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/abcnews.go.com.icoABC|2 hours ago
The House Oversight Committee is in the "early stages" of preparing a hearing on UFOs in the wake of unconfirmed claims the U.S. allegedly found crashed alien spacecraft ..

 

[coati]

Aliens will always be a thing of fantasy… until they aren’t.

And if those aliens appear on planet Earth, it will be accompanied by actual evidence, not a tabloid announcement of "SHOCK REPORT!" by a conspiracy theorist on an erotic literature site.

The basic problem with internet-based discourse is that any quack can rile up the other quacks with anecdotes or hearsay evidence. Trump is fond of hooking suckers with his "Lotta people are saying" approach to denying reality. The Republican operatives Lee Atwater and Karl Rove accelerated this ignorant approach to discourse during the 80s and 90s when they theorized that Republicans don't need to conform to reality-- they could simply create reality by repeating the same narratives over and over again and appealing to the reptilian portion of the human brain.

That ain't how reality works, and no, it ain't "rocket surgery" to understand how it does work. Basic scientific methodology is not that difficult to understand. But as Rory so concisely stated in this thread, stupid people can't grasp that methodology.

So instead, they make fools of themselves with hearsay, anecdotes, and paranoia.

On his death bed, Lee Atwater regretted encouraging a major political party to deny reality as a political ploy to get the votes of stupid people.

 

[coati]

Comer's out to take the crown for the dumbest fuck in Congress.

​

Yeah, a cute little distraction from the upcoming prosecution of the most corrupt Republican administration in American history. Let the GOP continue to make fools of themselves. They are too divided by delusions to be effective.

 

[AlexBailey]

And if those aliens appear on planet Earth, it will be accompanied by actual evidence, not a tabloid announcement of "SHOCK REPORT!" by a conspiracy theorist on an erotic literature site.

The basic problem with internet-based discourse is that any quack can rile up the other quacks with anecdotes or hearsay evidence. Trump is fond of hooking suckers with his "Lotta people are saying" approach to denying reality. The Republican operatives Lee Atwater and Karl Rove accelerated this ignorant approach to discourse during the 80s and 90s when they theorized that Republicans don't need to conform to reality-- they could simply create reality by repeating the same narratives over and over again and appealing to the reptilian portion of the human brain.

That ain't how reality works, and no, it ain't "rocket surgery" to understand how it does work. Basic scientific methodology is not that difficult to understand. But as Rory so concisely stated in this thread, stupid people can't grasp that methodology, so they make fools of themselves with hearsay and anecdotes.

On his death bed, Lee Atwater regretted encouraging a major political party to deny reality as a political ploy to get the votes of stupid people.

There are many historical mysteries pointing toward the likelihood of extraterrestrial origins, until other sources are found the possibility remains.

Is it unlikely that a visiting alien would be elusive or that governments may have some reason to hide their existence?

I’m not saying it’s happening, just that it’s possible. Is there a political motive to invent a false narrative?

I’m sure some kooks might be wanting to cast doubts on various religions or to sell books or videos, but I don’t see any mass hysteria or social damage except for fringe groups like the Branch Davidians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_Davidians

It’s insane to bet your life on an unproven existence, but would you bet your life that aliens haven’t visited Earth?

 

[RoryN]

So, has the SHOCK REPORT caused any heart attacks yet?

 

[Rightguide]

What should happen to Navy pilots that report UFOs? Should they be relieved of duty for lying?

Maybe their radars should be relieved as well.

 

[AlexBailey]

The issue is time. Traveling faster than light violates the laws of time.

At least as we understand time.

Also @BrightShinyGirl


“As we understand time”

Fortunately our perception does not limit reality.

There was a time when traveling faster than the speed of sound was thought to violate the laws of physics. (Faster travel was still thought possible in space because of the lack of sound waves.)

The consequences of pushing through sound waves was unknown. There were theories that it would cause a catastrophic event as friction increased while the leading sound waves compressed into solid matter.

They were partially correct. As it turns out a sonic boom is not heard within the hypersonic vehicle, the phenomenon is only experienced by observers.

What sort of event could happen if something breaks through the leading light waves? Could observers experience something that the passengers would be unaware of?

My flimsy theory is that time without matter is irrelevant. Events that effect matter must transpire in order for time to pass. For example: how does time pass in dreams? How will it pass when we die?

Could it be that traveling beyond light speed creates a temporal isolation where the passengers experience time differently than the rest of the universe?


@HisArpy, I’m not confronting you here, nor was I seeking your posts. I just found your post to be thought provoking. It’s okay to calm yourself and be rational, I’m not out to get you.

 

[jaF0]

There are many historical mysteries pointing toward the likelihood of extraterrestrial origins, until other sources are found the possibility remains.

Is it unlikely that a visiting alien would be elusive or that governments may have some reason to hide their existence?

Don't go all BigDummy66 on us, OK?

 

[jaF0]

'Memebr when they said Crop Circles were definitive proof of aileeuns?

 

[AlexBailey]

'Memebr when they said Crop Circles were definitive proof of aileeuns?

Now that was some artful trolling?

 

[BluesDriver66]

So, to sum up, we've got one Deplorable conspiracy theorist rattling off a list of "authorities" allegedly supporting his SHOCK REPORT about flying saucers piloted by non human aliens.

Then, another Deplorable entered this virtual reality circle jerk to "authoritatively" state it is theoretically possible for matter to exceed the speed of light.

Then, a third Deplorable, the inventor of carbon water, showed up to authoritatively introduce us to the "laws of time".

It's no damned wonder that we now have a major political party based on the denial of empirical evidence. Now that delusional people have a medium for expressing their magical thinking to each other, they regularly assume reality is anything they want it to be.

Excuse me Mr. I Hate Deplorables and their stupid UFO conspiracies. This latest round of UFO "conspiracies" was brought to light by Democrat Harry Reid Senate Majority leader. Let's see who else is a part of these "Deplorables". (Spoiler: Looks like mostly Democrats.)

Harry Reid on UFO research: ‘Glad I blew the horn’​

The former Senate leader, Reid, was one of the first lawmakers to call for an investigation into UFOs and is responsible for one of the first investigations into them in 2007.

“I’m glad I blew the horn,” Reid told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...ry-reid-on-ufo-research-glad-i-blew-the-horn/



Oh, and lookie who we have here.

Hillary Clinton: Aliens May Have Visited Us​

After a reporter from a local New Hampshire paper asked her about extraterrestrials, presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton said, “I think we may have been [visited already]. We don’t know for sure.” Clinton told The Conway Daily Sun she would look into Area 51, the part of a Nevada military base that conspiracy theorists have long believed contains aliens or evidence of alien existence.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/01/04/clinton-says-aliens-may-have-visited

Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Chairman Can’t Stop Talking About Aliens​

While some politicians would keep a conspiracy theorist at arm’s length, it seems Podesta has found a sympathetic ear in the latest Democratic presidential hopeful. Despite her reputation as a cautious politician, Hillary Clinton has shown her own interest in extraterrestrials.

Clinton piqued the interest of conspiracy theorists when she was photographed holding a copy of Are We Alone?
“There’s enough stories out there that I don’t think everybody is just sitting in their kitchen making them up.” FiveThirtyEight reports the former secretary of state has pledged to release government files on U.A.P.s, short of any national-security concerns.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/hillary-clinton-john-podesta-aliens

Democratic Congressman André Carson wants hearings on UFO sightings​

Washington — Democratic Congressman André Carson of Indiana said Sunday that he wants Congress to conduct hearings on purported sightings of UFOs in the wake of a Pentagon report examining the so-called "unidentified aerial phenomena" (UAPs).

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andre-carson-ufos-congress-hearings-face-the-nation/

UFOs have united Republicans and Democrats​

It was three high-ranking senators, two Democrats and a Republican, who secretly secured $22 million in 2007 for the military to study UFOs. That began in 2008, and last August, the Pentagon announced creation of a task force that broadened the effort.

https://www.timesrecordnews.com/sto...-united-republicans-and-democrats/7639897002/

 

[BluesDriver66]

There's an awful lot of argument by authority in your posts but little actual substance. 'This person was in the military.' 'That person has a lot of medals'. While most people would respect Edgar Mitchell's military and space career, his ideas post Apollo were somewhat batshit. People that used to hold a position of authority come out with this stuff all the time, and it never goes beyond them publishing a book and pushing a press release.

https://www.salon.com/2020/12/10/why-do-smart-people-lie-about-alien-encounters/

Your core claim is that the (US) Government has a collection of alien spacecraft hidden away and are covering it up. For all of the talk, the only bit of evidence you've given is the same photograph of a black blob in the middle of a grey frame. Can you point to any actual description of these spacecraft? How big are they? What color? Do they have wings, windows, wheels? Are they all the same? So much talk in alien watching circles of cover ups yet no one seems to ask the most basic questions.

You're also the OP, so any complaints about this being a 'porn board' are entirely down to you.

So what should happen to military pilots that report ufos? Should they be disciplined for lying? Banned from flying? Kicked out of the service? You seem to believe anyone who discusses the issue is some kind of psycho. What's the next step? You going to let some pathological liar fly multi-million dollar jets? How about some guy who can't tell difference between a bird and an alien space ship? What about some guy having hallucinations in the cockpit?

Also Navy commanders. Their radar operators and pilots report violations of U.S. airspace. What should they do? Ignore it because some people don't believe in ufos?

It's real easy to sit on your ass and pontificate whether you believe in ufos but in the real world military officials have to deal with these as real world issues. Decisions have to made. Important decisions that involve the safety of the service people under their command and the security of the United States. They just can't say I don't believe in ufos and go back to drinking their coffee.

 

[BluesDriver66]

So, has the SHOCK REPORT caused any heart attacks yet?

Sorry. Nothing like election night at Clinton headquarters.



I'll keep you updated if the situation devolves into a
Hillary Clinton level catastrophe.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Don't go all BigDummy66 on us, OK?

You sound like some 12 year old on a playground in 1962. You must be really old.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

So what should happen to military pilots that report ufos? Should they be disciplined for lying? Banned from flying? Kicked out of the service? You seem to believe anyone who discusses the issue is some kind of psycho. What's the next step? You going to let some pathological liar fly multi-million dollar jets? How about some guy who can't tell difference between a bird and an alien space ship? What about some guy having hallucinations in the cockpit?

Also Navy commanders. Their radar operators and pilots report violations of U.S. airspace. What should they do? Ignore it because some people don't believe in ufos?

It's real easy to sit on your ass and pontificate whether you believe in ufos but in the real world military officials have to deal with these as real world issues. Decisions have to made. Important decisions that involve the safety of the service people under their command and the security of the United States. They just can't say I don't believe in ufos and go back to drinking their coffee.

Anomalies should always be taken seriously, because they might be a new threat, or evidence of an equipment malfunction. Or even a procedural error.

The problem is when people immediately jump to extraterrestrial explanations instead of digging to find the real cause.

 

[coati]

Excuse me Mr. I Hate Deplorables and their stupid UFO conspiracies. This latest round of UFO "conspiracies" was brought to light by Democrat Harry Reid Senate Majority leader. Let's see who else is a part of these "Deplorables". (Spoiler: Looks like mostly Democrats.)

I don't give a shit who has called for "investigations" in the past. None of that proves aliens have visited planet Earth in flying saucers.

Your "SHOCK REPORT!" is hearsay, but I expect you will keep trying to act like it's hard evidence because that's what conspiracy theorists do.

 

[drusus]

So what should happen to military pilots that report ufos? Should they be disciplined for lying? Banned from flying? Kicked out of the service? You seem to believe anyone who discusses the issue is some kind of psycho. What's the next step? You going to let some pathological liar fly multi-million dollar jets? How about some guy who can't tell difference between a bird and an alien space ship? What about some guy having hallucinations in the cockpit?

Also Navy commanders. Their radar operators and pilots report violations of U.S. airspace. What should they do? Ignore it because some people don't believe in ufos?

It's real easy to sit on your ass and pontificate whether you believe in ufos but in the real world military officials have to deal with these as real world issues. Decisions have to made. Important decisions that involve the safety of the service people under their command and the security of the United States. They just can't say I don't believe in ufos and go back to drinking their coffee.

I didn't suggest anything about sanctions for pilots so I'm not sure what your first two paragraphs are about. However, there is a massive difference between a pilot saying they saw something unusual (the evidence you've provided) and the government having a collection of alien spacecraft (the title you gave this thread).

You keep bringing up people who believe the same things you do but still no actual evidence of these captive spacecraft. Grusch says he's spoken extensively to people with first hand knowledge of these things yet fails to provide a single detail about the aliens and their ships. Instead he goes on about secrets and coverups, using the language of a conspiracy theorist.

If military officials are going to pivot from their regular duties to defending the world from aliens, it's going to involve some pretty big changes. Spaceships and aircraft rather than tanks and infantry. It would also be a worldwide issue, not just a matter for the United States.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Anomalies should always be taken seriously, because they might be a new threat, or evidence of an equipment malfunction. Or even a procedural error.

The problem is when people immediately jump to extraterrestrial explanations instead of digging to find the real cause.

These are no longer anomalies. They happen everyday.

The problem is when people exclude extraterrestrial explanations when everything points to that conclusion. If walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, nine times out of ten it's a duck.

If you believe highly trained fighter pilots operating the most sophisticated vehicles in human history with collaboration of radar data are just confused and jumping to wild and delusional conclusions like people who see Jesus on toast slices, I don't know what to tell you. I have more respect for service men and women who put their lives on the line everyday to treat them like some homeless person mumbling to themselves on a street corner.

For some Navy pilots, UFO sightings were an ordinary event: ‘Every day for at least a couple years’ ​

When the Navy pilot first spotted the strange object hovering in restricted airspace off the Atlantic Coast, he was stunned — no exhaust plume, no visible engine and all the makings of something secret, something mysterious or something dangerous.

But years later, Ryan Graves sounded almost bored as he recounted for a national television audience his history with unidentified aerial phenomena — UAPs, better known as UFOs.

Perhaps because for him and some of his former Navy colleagues, such sightings became a regular occurrence.
“Every day,” Graves said in an interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes” that aired Sunday. “Every day for at least a couple years.”

The retired lieutenant’s matter-of-fact remark stopped “60 Minutes” correspondent Bill Whitaker, who cut in: “Wait a minute. Every day for a couple of years?”

“Mhmm,” Graves replied.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/17/ufo-sightings-navy-ryan-graves/