Schumer and Biden have insisted on a “clean” bill all year. They drew a line in the sand and haven’t budged an inch, knowing full well that they cannot possibly find 60 votes. And so here we are on May 12 and Schumer hasn’t even scheduled a vote. Reality will sink in soon enough and they’ll have to negotiate. It’s like passing a kidney stone. It will hurt like hell but it will pass.
Yep. After passing trillions in new spending they’re acting like rolling discretionary domestic spending to fy 2022 is super draconian. All 5 of the items you listed are entirely reasonable.
These trolls can't seem to come to grips that as the debt increases so does the interest on the debt. As interest increases discretionary spending decreases.
BabyBoobs and RWCJ “members” 
Vinny VeritASS 
The debt ceiling relates to paying the bills.
If it was agreed upon as a clean bill after passage Biden would renege on any spending controls, that’s what Biden and Schumer do.
And you are still trying to blame the Senate Democrats for something the House Republicans did: pushing this whole thing closer to the ultimate deadline. You are expecting the Senate Democrats to pass a bill in 18% of the time it took the House Republicans. Yes, they have said they want a clean bill. That has nothing to do with getting it done. As far as the President not negotiating with McCarty and that's the reason it took so long, that's bunk. They were told at the being the Democrats wouldn't budge. McCarthy knew that going in. Even if he wanted to assure that was the case one meeting with the President or the Senate Democrats would have verified it. You are attempting to defend the indefensible. Admit it, McCarty and company screwed the pooch.
Right. McCarthy was told they would not budge. Then McCarthy unexpectedly got a bill passed anyway. And now Dems will budge because they don’t have the votes in the Senate to pass a “clean” bill.
They had a bill, clean sheet. The GOP is in control of the House, so it wasn't considered.
ineedhelp1 and BabyBoobs 
The filibuster is a function of Senate Rules.
That is another discussion altogether. Your original argument was that the Senate Dems were holding up the works by not putting a bill on the Senate floor, which is far from the truth because the House Republicans took 82% more time to get theirs passed than the Senate has taken so far. As to passing a clean debt limit bill, you might be correct. But like with McCarthy, we'll just have to wait and see. I don't think he's the only one that can pull a rabbit out of the hat.
I’ve pointed out the facts. The deadline is apparently approaching quickly. Potentially as early as the first half of June. The clock is ticking, the House has passed its bill and Schumer will now have to act fast. Nobody cares how hard his job is. He’ll have to figure it out.
You have used the facts, but put a very biased spin on it trying to blame the Democrats for something the Republicans did, IE; the short time between the passage of the house bill and the deadline. And as you pointed out this was by design (unintentionally or not) to put the Democrats under the gun to act. Yeah, nothing like acting and bargaining in good faith huh? It looks like what will be the Democratic answer is a clean debt raise bill. Again, it comes down to who will blink first. Will the Dems have enough defectors to pass the Republican bill or will it be the other way around? Ladies and gentlemen place your bets.
All I can say about the bolded portion of your post is if they think that, they are extremely politically ignorant. Sometimes accommodations have to be made in politics. And when you have a very slim majority, it is imperative to do so. That said he and the rest of the democrats have not pandered to the fringes of the party, either left or right. As far as the debt limit We'll see. It just pisses me off we are at this point though. Nothing like putting the whole fucking world economy at risk for something like this that can be handled later.Beyond the horrible precedent it would set by giving in to the “republican’s” terroristic negotiation tactics, President Biden would be committing political suicide and tarnishing his legacy by caving.
The younger progressive wing of the party already sees President Biden as too accommodating to “republicans, AND to“democrats” like Joe “Coal” Manchin. If President Biden were to cave, it would create an opening for a legitimate primary challenge from the left. - And that would likely spell defeat for whoever the eventual democratic nominee would ultimately be.
Why would President Biden do that ^.
It’s looking more and more to me like the 14th amendment will be exercised; or maybe some other workaround.
President Biden has to put his chip down and not blink.
I don’t see anything to “blame” either side for because the deadline hasn’t arrived. As long as default is avoided sausage making process doesn’t matter. The Dems must assumed that McCarthy would be unable to get a bill passed and was caught off guard when he did. Neither side will get everything they want. Both chambers will need to finesse bipartisan support when all is said and done.
The deadline is actually past. The government has started taking extreme measures to keep things working. The next real deadline is the killer though. And it's stupid we have to get to that point to get things done.
