Seeking female writers

[gunhilltrain]

Hate to say this, but you've got to knuckle down and get writing by yourself. That's how everyone here started, bar none.

It might help you to know that I never attempted fiction until I reached the age of fifty. Those were screenplays, and there is a story behind that that I won't get into now. I didn't publish anything online until I was sixty-three. So it's never too late to get started, although if you are younger you might as well start now. Well, there was one science fiction story I wrote for an English class in 1976 when I was twenty-one. I did get an A on it, although the professor's comments seemed to either praise it with faint damnation or damn it with faint praise. In any case, I don't have a copy of it now.

 

[ArticulateCuckold]

Having done several collaborative stories with different writers, I think a key point to keep in mind is that collaboration has to have something spark it - a love of a character, a reaction to another writer's style, an interest in what they're interested in. The chances of that happening with no content of your own to share is very low indeed.

My suggestion is to start writing in whatever way you can. If you have those ten lines, write them down, then another ten, another ten. Keep doing that, and you'll have enough for a story. Expecting someone else to come along with the other 990 lines isn't collaboration, it's their writing.

Collaboration is, I think, very rare, and it's not easy. Here in the AH there are several who have done collabs, but we're the oddities. I doubt anyone gets hundreds of requests, most would get none at all.

Hate to say this, but you've got to knuckle down and get writing by yourself. That's how everyone here started, bar none.

Thank you Electricblue for such a constructive reply.

I have attempted to jot down those 10 lines, but it is only as far as I could go. Hence I reached out for interest in collaboration. If I dont get anyone, I would just move on - but with a positive feeling that "I did try, its alright that luck isnt on my side at this moment!"

There are countless people who are lot more capable than myself who has written tons of worthy articles. I am just a tiny fish in the ocean, trying to yell. If someone wish to hear and help out - let them. Else I will be on my way

 

[ElectricBlue]

It might help you to know that I never attempted fiction until I reached the age of fifty. Those were screenplays, and there is a story behind that that I won't get into now. I didn't publish anything online until I was sixty-three. So it's never too late to get started, although if you are younger you might as well start now. Well, there was one science fiction story I wrote for an English class in 1976 when I was twenty-one. I did get an A on it, although the professor's comments seemed to either praise it with faint damnation or damn it with faint praise. In any case, I don't have a copy of it now.

My first piece of erotica was written for Lit in 2014, so a few years older than you, for my first. Erotic poetry from my late teens doesn't count, neither do the letters to distant girlfriends while I was at university. So, three and a half decades of business writing, before I turned to smut...

 

[Djmac1031]

Thank you Emily. It is my fault that I wasnt explicitly detailed with my request. I should have done that. If you still wish to read a bit more detailed (may not be as articulate as you wish)... kindly do read below... already posted in this thread as well.

Thanks or all the messages.

#1. I am not seeking someone to jerk me off! It is just that I lack the skill to convert 10 lines to 1000 lines, for which I seek someone's collaborative assistance
#2. True - its my fault of being a new member that I did not give away some details which I would do now.
#3. Articulate - doesnt mean I would be the kind of vocabulary and grammar. It indicates I am able to convey what I intend to say, to some people (its agreed that not everyone would understand others, in the best way).
#4. My ideas rotate around suspense, thriller and family drama genres and plots would be slow burn. The plots involve multiple characters of different age groups (18+)
#5. Finally, why a female writer... let me try to answer this one to best way I can. My plots deal with multiple human emotions - happiness, anger, sad, jealousy, vengeance, revenge, possessiveness etc by both man and woman characters in multiple age sets (please see #4).
#6. No, I am posting this for first time. I do not have any other identities.
#7. Link to my profile : https://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=6591137

After reading this, if there is someone who would wish to brainstorm, please do reach out as Feedback to my profile; I do not wish to advertise my email in a public forum. If not, kindly refrain from posting negative messages. It is just someone who is trying to contribute. Most of us started in ground zero, unlike the super talented personnel.

Thank you

If you've got plot ideas, characters in mind, "slow burn" stories in your head, as you say you do, why not just write them?

From there, you find an editor, or proof reader, for feedback. Gender shouldn't matter in that regard.

We can't write YOUR stories for you.

The best any of us can do is offer feedback on how to improve it after you've written something.

If you're SERIOUS about WRITING and not just socializing with the women writers here, then actually hang out in the forum, get to know us, ALL of us.

Read the threads on writing. Pick our brains. Ask questions even if you think they're stupid.

But ultimately it's up to YOU to actually write something.

As for the initial responses here, you left yourself open to them with your approach.

Best way to prove our gut reaction to it was wrong is by following the advice offered by myself and others.

Good luck with it.

 

[ArticulateCuckold]

If you've got plot ideas, characters in mind, "slow burn" stories in your head, as you say you do, why not just write them?

From there, you find an editor, or proof reader, for feedback. Gender shouldn't matter in that regard.

We can't write YOUR stories for you.

The best any of us can do is offer feedback on how to improve it after you've written something.

If you're SERIOUS about WRITING and not just socializing with the women writers here, then actually hang out in the forum, get to know us, ALL of us.

Read the threads on writing. Pick our brains. Ask questions even if you think they're stupid.

But ultimately it's up to YOU to actually write something.

As for the initial responses here, you left yourself open to them with your approach.

Best way to prove our gut reaction to it was wrong is by following the advice offered by myself and others.

Good luck with it.

Thank you. Much appreciated

 

[Euphony]

#5. Finally, why a female writer... let me try to answer this one to best way I can. My plots deal with multiple human emotions - happiness, anger, sad, jealousy, vengeance, revenge, possessiveness etc by both man and woman characters in multiple age sets (please see #4).

Setting aside the grating assumption that only women (betting only hetero is allowed too) are capable of writing the spectrum of human emotions , if this is so multi-generational, multi-gendered method work, why exclude of all those spectrums you are supposedly using others assistance to properly represent ?

OP may be a goose, a swan, an egret, or an actual duck but if you quack just like other mallards that come on here, at some point it's on you for being "misunderstood."

There is an awful lot of justification word salad from OP to try to explain away what on its face reads at multiple points like a personals/hookup request under the guise of "artistic collaboration."

Again, even if it's not, if you can't clearly communicate that basic concisely (oy vey the word dump explanation rebuttals are murdering me) what probability is there is a successful investment of another author's time and efforts?

Personally, were it my project I would create a significant outline (to show I am as much invested as my collaborator is expected to be) and workshop it through the Story Ideas forum.

But, the OP has also shown an intractability about moving the discussion anywhere else which is yet another strike against the goal actually being a story crafted to page. (when a work is important to you, you try any and everything. And you take suggestions from those who genuinely seek to help rather than enter into long winded debate over what is minutia in the grand scheme of a project.)

For any collaboration to work, effort needs to meet effort and there is little evidence (it's absence being secondary) that would remotely occur.

Build out an serious outline. Workshop it. Get others involved in the idea.

This feels more like dumping a bucket of Legos at my feet and saying " I want a rocket ship." That it's builder can only be female is all the more cringy.

 

[Euphony]

Hate to say this, but you've got to knuckle down and get writing by yourself. That's how everyone here started, bar none.

Even if you don't end up writing it, this has to be done if only to communicate the ideas from your head to the other person.

There is a difference between collaboration to get you over some technical hurdles you can't clear and trying to get someone to basically do all the work for you.

OP is low effort on doing the work and high effort on trying to justify the why of how someone should save them from doing it (gussied up in word lipstick and pearls but it's clearly a pig)

Channel the efforts into the work and I'd bet OP would be even happier with the outcome than if he somehow finds someone to pull this all together for him. (the concept of having my idea done by someone else is foreign to me. Feels like it's worse having it done but no to you liking (hard for others to read your mind) rather than existing in the false perfection of residing only in one's head. Like so close but somehow even farther than when you started.)

 

[gunhilltrain]

My first piece of erotica was written for Lit in 2014, so a few years older than you, for my first. Erotic poetry from my late teens doesn't count, neither do the letters to distant girlfriends while I was at university. So, three and a half decades of business writing, before I turned to smut...

I do remember now that I would use a typewriter to write letters to people Is that "creative writing?" Some of them were pretty long. Probably a lost art now.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Thank you Electricblue for such a constructive reply.

I have attempted to jot down those 10 lines, but it is only as far as I could go. Hence I reached out for interest in collaboration. If I dont get anyone, I would just move on - but with a positive feeling that "I did try, its alright that luck isnt on my side at this moment!"

There are countless people who are lot more capable than myself who has written tons of worthy articles. I am just a tiny fish in the ocean, trying to yell. If someone wish to hear and help out - let them. Else I will be on my way

Even Tolstoy was a tiny fish in the ocean once. He dropped out of college (around the age of twenty) because he was so bad at it. He then had enough money to basically mess around for a while doing not much of anything. He did publish his first book which was basically an autobiography. His combat experiences in the Crimean War (he joined to get away from his gambling debts) seemed to light a fire under his ass, and the rest is history.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

Hello Everyone,

Seeking female writers for a collaboration to convert some ideas that I have to story. Please read my profile and reach out if interested.

Thanks

These fools always miss the turn for the GB.

 

[ArticulateCuckold]

Setting aside the grating assumption that only women (betting only hetero is allowed too) are capable of writing the spectrum of human emotions , if this is so multi-generational, multi-gendered method work, why exclude of all those spectrums you are supposedly using others assistance to properly represent ?

OP may be a goose, a swan, an egret, or an actual duck but if you quack just like other mallards that come on here, at some point it's on you for being "misunderstood."

There is an awful lot of justification word salad from OP to try to explain away what on its face reads at multiple points like a personals/hookup request under the guise of "artistic collaboration."

Again, even if it's not, if you can't clearly communicate that basic concisely (oy vey the word dump explanation rebuttals are murdering me) what probability is there is a successful investment of another author's time and efforts?

Personally, were it my project I would create a significant outline (to show I am as much invested as my collaborator is expected to be) and workshop it through the Story Ideas forum.

But, the OP has also shown an intractability about moving the discussion anywhere else which is yet another strike against the goal actually being a story crafted to page. (when a work is important to you, you try any and everything. And you take suggestions from those who genuinely seek to help rather than enter into long winded debate over what is minutia in the grand scheme of a project.)

For any collaboration to work, effort needs to meet effort and there is little evidence (it's absence being secondary) that would remotely occur.

Build out an serious outline. Workshop it. Get others involved in the idea.

This feels more like dumping a bucket of Legos at my feet and saying " I want a rocket ship." That it's builder can only be female is all the more cringy.

Thanks for the suggestion. Much appreciated.

 

[gunhilltrain]

These fools always miss the turn for the GB.

What does GB mean? It's not Great Britain, gigabyte, gravity bong, or probably not gang bang.

 

[Omenainen]

I have attempted to jot down those 10 lines, but it is only as far as I could go. Hence I reached out for interest in collaboration.

If you can’t write, you can’t collaborate. If you’re just searching for someone to write your story for you, it’s called commissioning. If you are willing to pay, you might find someone. Good luck with that.

 

[ArticulateCuckold]

If you can’t write, you can’t collaborate. If you’re just searching for someone to write your story for you, it’s called commissioning. If you are willing to pay, you might find someone. Good luck with that.

Thanks for the response. Much appreciated.

 

[ElectricBlue]

What does GB mean? It's not Great Britain, gigabyte, gravity bong, or probably not gang bang.

General Board.

 

[EmilyMiller]

@ArticulateCuckold

Hun,

Nothing you have said in any of your follow-ups convinces me that you really want to write and just want help. I’m really not sure what you want TBH (though I have some ideas based on how you have gone about things and your profile). It seems to me that your justifications don’t really add up.

No one is being rude, but maybe how you have gone about things is rather unlikely to get any female writer interested. You don’t seem to get the writing process or what a female author might get out of working with you.

You have still failed to explain why you need a female writer, unless you just like pussy.

We are all busy writing our own stories, or collaborating with people who are already writers. This is not Creative Writing 101.

The personals are the best for hooking up with randoms. Good luck.

Em

 

[NoTalentHack]

I have not seen someone get dragged so hard since Ukrainian tractors hooked up with Russian tanks.

 

[Blind_Justice]

A good writer should be able to convey emotions, regardless of the portrayed character's age or gender. How does one become a "good" writer? Hard work. Sit down, write shit, get critiqued, cry, improve, do it all over again. Don't try to write the next Godfather or Lord Of The Rings as your first attempt, perhaps do something simple, manageable instead.

I mean, you've spent an awful amount of text trying to convince our lovely lady writers that you're not a creep. You're obviously capable of stapling sentences together. Instead of wasting your energy on forum posts, sit your ass down and write your first short story instead. And if someone then tells you "your characterization needs work", come back and ask for help.

 

[Djmac1031]

As a male writer, I completely understand the desire to get a woman's viewpoint on a particular subject while writing.

There are things they will have a better understanding of then many of us men.

Case in point: the recent Underwater Sex thread where it was pointed out, by a woman, that it can be problematic due to dryness issues and potential bacteria infections.

Something most of us guys probably never considered.

I myself came here awhile back asking a woman specific question about female orgasm.

I too was called out by several as merely attempting to manipulate women into giving me mental masturbation material.

I took offense to this, because my motives were pure. But, after consideration, I understood the problem.

Because unfortunately there are simply too many men, here and on social media in general, who's only goal is finding a woman and manipulating them into some form of sexual interaction.

If that's what you want, others have already pointed out the Personals forum.

If you're serious about WRITING, this is indeed the forum to learn, to ask questions etc.

But gender should not matter. Knowledge and experience is what will help you, no matter the gender of the person offering it.

You by your own admission can't even formulate a basic story outline on your own.

So you're not even close to needing gender specific opinions on particular questions.

You need writing advice, period.

Only you know your HONEST agenda.

If you're looking to learn, welcome.

If you're looking to sext, enjoy the Personals.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I mean, you've spent an awful amount of text trying to convince our lovely lady writers that you're not a creep.

I hope his general writing skills are better than the ones he has deployed so far in this failed attempt.

Em

 

[EmilyMiller]

As a male writer, I completely understand the desire to get a woman's viewpoint on a particular subject while writing.

[…]

I myself came here awhile back asking a woman specific question about female orgasm.

I can’t recall you doing that, hun. Then I’ve not been here that long. But I’m equally sure that you wouldn’t have approached it in quite this way.

Also, very different if you already have 10 published stories.

Em

 

[John_Vandermeer]

Sounds to me like OP wants one of three things:
(1) Sexting with an hetero woman: best found elsewhere.
or (2) Commissioning from an hetero woman experienced writer: in which case it is his right to ask, and his right to only work with a woman if that is his preference, though his approach should have been different then.
or (3) Perhaps find an hetero woman at his level of writing experience with whom he could undertake a first writing project together. It it his right to ask for that too, but then again it should have been approached differently. I see that as a hybrid between a "personal" situation and finding a co-writer situation.
In any case, whether somebody's intentions are sleazy or not, it doesn't mean the responses have to be vitriolic. There have been answers here that inform the OP to the demerits of his request while being perfectly polite about it. Just basic manners.

 

[ArticulateCuckold]

@ArticulateCuckold

Hun,

Nothing you have said in any of your follow-ups convinces me that you really want to write and just want help. I’m really not sure what you want TBH (though I have some ideas based on how you have gone about things and your profile). It seems to me that your justifications don’t really add up.

No one is being rude, but maybe how you have gone about things is rather unlikely to get any female writer interested. You don’t seem to get the writing process or what a female author might get out of working with you.

You have still failed to explain why you need a female writer, unless you just like pussy.

We are all busy writing our own stories, or collaborating with people who are already writers. This is not Creative Writing 101.

The personals are the best for hooking up with randoms. Good luck.

Em

Thank you for the response. Much appreciated.

 

[ArticulateCuckold]

As a male writer, I completely understand the desire to get a woman's viewpoint on a particular subject while writing.

There are things they will have a better understanding of then many of us men.

Case in point: the recent Underwater Sex thread where it was pointed out, by a woman, that it can be problematic due to dryness issues and potential bacteria infections.

Something most of us guys probably never considered.

I myself came here awhile back asking a woman specific question about female orgasm.

I too was called out by several as merely attempting to manipulate women into giving me mental masturbation material.

I took offense to this, because my motives were pure. But, after consideration, I understood the problem.

Because unfortunately there are simply too many men, here and on social media in general, who's only goal is finding a woman and manipulating them into some form of sexual interaction.

If that's what you want, others have already pointed out the Personals forum.

If you're serious about WRITING, this is indeed the forum to learn, to ask questions etc.

But gender should not matter. Knowledge and experience is what will help you, no matter the gender of the person offering it.

You by your own admission can't even formulate a basic story outline on your own.

So you're not even close to needing gender specific opinions on particular questions.

You need writing advice, period.

Only you know your HONEST agenda.

If you're looking to learn, welcome.

If you're looking to sext, enjoy the Personals.

Thank you for the response. Much appreciated

 

[EmilyMiller]

Thank you for the response. Much appreciated.

I’m kinda thinking you are a chat-bot, hun.

Em