Another successful school shooting today.

[TrailerHitch]

All guns should be registered.
No one with a history of mental health issues or has a weapons ban imposed by a court of law can obtain registration for a firearm.
An individual may store a firearm only if it is unloaded, rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device, stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and is constructed so that it cannot be readily be broken open or into.
It is not readily accessible to ammunition which must be stored together or separately in a container, vault or room that is kept securely locked and cannot be readily broken open or into.
Ban assault weapons and hand guns, altered guns or guns with serial numbers removed.
And that's just for starters. Eevery gun purchase made through a registered gun dealer is run though a national database to check if there is any reason the purchaser can't own a gun.

All guns will NEVER be registered, EVER. There are thousands, if not millions of guns out there that were purchased long before there ever was an ATF or background checks. Some of these guns have been in families for generations. The government doesn't even know they exist. So even if there was a national registry these would never be registered.

Your second point is already in place for felons and others restricted by court orders. The mental health issue is a sticky one as I believe it will be used illegally by corrupt lawyers, LEO's and judges to restrict the rights of law abiding citizens. I agree something must be done, but it must be completely objective and not subjective to the whims of those involved.

Sorry no. Most of my guns are locked in a safe but I live in a rural area remote from police protection by roughly an hour. Not only do we have meth heads and common thieves out here, we have coyotes, wolves, and bears. If one of my animals is in trouble, let alone myself or my wife, having to run to unlock the safe, run somewhere else to get ammunition, and then load the weapon, its too late.

True assault weapons are not commonly available to any civilian without a ton of additional paperwork and federal and local background checks. I will never support a ban on pistols simply because they are the best self defense weapon.

 

[TrailerHitch]

https://apnews.com/article/gun-violence-covid-health-chicago-c912ecc5619e925c5ea7447d36808715

AP-NORC poll 7/28-8/1/22 results:

Do you favor, oppose, or neither favor nor oppose each of the following policies?

A federal law requiring background checks on all potential gun buyers, including private sales and gun shows
85% Favor

A federal law that bans those convicted of domestic violence from purchasing a gun
83% Favor

Making 21 the minimum legal age to buy any gun nationwide
75% Favor

A nationwide ban on the sale of AR-15 rifles and similar semiautomatic weapons
59% Favor

A law in your state allowing people to carry guns in public without a permit
57% Oppose

Now come to where I live in the rural south and ask those same questions.

 

[RoryN]

I agree that poor mental health is a key contributor to violence.

There's a contingent of people in this country who twice voted for an overt con artist due to their cult-like obsession with him. These same people also entertain insane conspiracy theories, and regularly display high amounts of irrational anger. They are clearly mentally ill, and dangerous. Therefore, these people should be denied firearm ownership.

And, as a law-abiding citizen, I should have access to a gun to defend myself from such people.

Additionally, because these people are presumed dangerous, I should be able to shoot them if I feel at all threatened by them, and escape persecution. Pew pew.

 

[TrailerHitch]

I agree that poor mental health is a key contributor to violence.

There's a contingent of people in this country who twice voted for an overt con artist due to their cult-like obsession with him. These same people also entertain insane conspiracy theories, and regularly display high amounts of irrational anger. They are clearly mentally ill, and dangerous. Therefore, these people should be denied firearm ownership.

And, as a law-abiding citizen, I should have access to a gun to defend myself from such people.

Additionally, because these people are presumed dangerous, I should be able to shoot them if I feel threatened by them, and escape persecution. Pew pew.

Your last sentence is EXACTLY why you shouldn't have a gun. The unprovoked shooting of someone shows a sure mental defect.

 

[phrodeau]

Now come to where I live in the rural south and ask those same questions.

Sorry that you live in a minority community.

 

[RoryN]

Your last sentence is EXACTLY why you shouldn't have a gun. The unprovoked shooting

What "unprovoked shooting"?

My scenario indicated that I would only shoot if I felt threatened, aka "Stand Your Ground".

Surely you have no issue with that? Or is it rules for thee, but not for me?

 

[coati]

This comment is so god Damned stupid I can't believe you aren't embarrassed for posting it. I have said repeatedly that mental health should be a determiner in whether you are able to get a gun or not. Also felons are not allowed to own firearms. With the lack of knowledge shown here regarding firearms democrats should not be allowed to own guns either.

Again, thanks for continuing to self-identify as a Deplorable. I appreciate your candor.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Again, thanks for continuing to self-identify as a Deplorable. I appreciate your candor.

I appreciate your ability to be as unashamedly, ridiculously, stupid as you are.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Sorry that you live in a minority community.

Actually I live in a pretty integrated community.

Or do you mean minority because of the skewed majority in the poll taken in a metropolitan area?

 

[TrailerHitch]

What "unprovoked shooting"?

My scenario indicated that I would only shoot if I felt threatened, aka "Stand Your Ground".

Surely you have no issue with that? Or is it rules for thee, but not for me?

Actually my intent is to use my gun to allow me to safely retreat with my family. I hope I never even have to draw my pistol, let alone point it at anyone, and I pray I never have to shoot anyone.

Define feeling threatened. Is this verbal, body posturing, or presentation of a weapon?

 

[RoryN]

Actually my intent is to use my gun to allow me to safely retreat with my family. I hope I never even have to draw my pistol, let alone point it at anyone, and I pray I never have to shoot anyone.

Praying to refrain from shooting people might help to explain why we have have so much gun violence in this country. Fairy tales don't work against bullets.

Define feeling threatened.

No. You already erroneously presumed I would shoot someone "unprovoked"; I owe you nothing.

I guess it's to be expected you'd screw up re: guns, though. That's what happens in the rural South, don't it? Done shot my paw, LOL

 

[TrailerHitch]

Praying to refrain from shooting people might help to explain why we have have so much gun violence in this country. Fairy tales don't work against bullets.



No. You already erroneously presumed I would shoot someone "unprovoked"; I owe you nothing.

I guess it's to be expected you'd screw up re: guns, though. That's what happens in the rural South, don't it? Done shot my paw, LOL

First of all, pray I never have to shoot someone is an expression, not a definition of my religious beliefs. Nice nit picking when my answer was 100% clear and rational.

You won't define it because your original post came across heavy handed and unnecessarily violent and you are embarrassed that you got called on it.

What's the matter, since you dems lost your slaves and were embarrassed by backing the klan do you now hate the south? By the way super genius I was born and raised in the upper mid-west. Nice fail at stereotyping. Fucking loser, can't debate so you go to insults.

 

[RoryN]

First of all, banjos banjos banjos banjos banjos banjos banjos banjos banjos banjos banjos banjos banjos

Sorry - I didn't catch that? There's a noise...

 

[phrodeau]

What does the Fox say?


https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/04/1200/675/Poll-41.png?ve=1&tl=1

 

[Rainblow]

All guns will NEVER be registered, EVER. There are thousands, if not millions of guns out there that were purchased long before there ever was an ATF or background checks. Some of these guns have been in families for generations. The government doesn't even know they exist. So even if there was a national registry these would never be registered.

Your second point is already in place for felons and others restricted by court orders. The mental health issue is a sticky one as I believe it will be used illegally by corrupt lawyers, LEO's and judges to restrict the rights of law abiding citizens. I agree something must be done, but it must be completely objective and not subjective to the whims of those involved.

Sorry no. Most of my guns are locked in a safe but I live in a rural area remote from police protection by roughly an hour. Not only do we have meth heads and common thieves out here, we have coyotes, wolves, and bears. If one of my animals is in trouble, let alone myself or my wife, having to run to unlock the safe, run somewhere else to get ammunition, and then load the weapon, its too late.

True assault weapons are not commonly available to any civilian without a ton of additional paperwork and federal and local background checks. I will never support a ban on pistols simply because they are the best self defense weapon.

Lol, I guess you're not fond of Canada's firearm legislation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Canada

 

[RobDownSouth]

First of all, pray I never have to shoot someone is an expression, not a definition of my religious beliefs. Nice nit picking when my answer was 100% clear and rational.

You won't define it because your original post came across heavy handed and unnecessarily violent and you are embarrassed that you got called on it.

What's the matter, since you dems lost your slaves and were embarrassed by backing the klan do you now hate the south? By the way super genius I was born and raised in the upper mid-west. Nice fail at stereotyping. Fucking loser, can't debate so you go to insults.

You strike me as the type of guy who would empty a clip through the front door if someone had the temerity to ring the doorbell...

....and then post about it on Lit before calling 911 for cleanup.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Actually my intent is to use my gun to allow me to safely retreat with my family. I hope I never even have to draw my pistol, let alone point it at anyone, and I pray I never have to shoot anyone.

Define feeling threatened. Is this verbal, body posturing, or presentation of a weapon?

Read.
Comprehend.
Reply.

In that order.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Your obvious infatuation with incest tells me much about you. It also explains your lack of mental acuity. Its a shame that you were a product of that life. Perhaps counseling, special education, or vocational training can somehow allow you to salvage a meaningful existence.

Inbred trumptard say what?

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Define feeling threatened. Is this verbal, body posturing, or presentation of a weapon?

Drag queens reading stories to children, women making their own decisions about their bodies, disney having gay pride days. You know, typical things you trumptards fear.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Sorry - I didn't catch that? There's a noise...

Yet another lefty unable to debate so he goes playground antics. Thanks for admitting you have nothing to add.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Lol, I guess you're not fond of Canada's firearm legislation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Canada

Fond of it? No I just don't give a fuck about what goes on inside of canaduh.

 

[TrailerHitch]

You strike me as the type of guy who would empty a clip through the front door if someone had the temerity to ring the doorbell...

....and then post about it on Lit before calling 911 for cleanup.

You hit me as the type of guy who posts lies and nonsense because they aren't mature enough to conduct an adult conversation.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Read.
Comprehend.
Reply.

In that order.

Try it yourself instead of always posting smarmy nonsense.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Drag queens reading stories to children, women making their own decisions about their bodies, disney having gay pride days. You know, typical things you trumptards fear.

I don't FEAR any of those.

 

[RoryN]

your original post came across....unnecessarily violent

My post was "violent"? Are your feelings okay?

Sounds like you have the same mentality as the gun nuts who have been shooting people through their doors for no reason (other than they're terrified).

Little wussies like you should not have guns.