Another successful school shooting today.

[70s_Burninator]

that is exactly the issue that never gets answered - kids have a knack of finding guns.

and what if the teacher misses and shoots a kid instead. or makes some mistake.

these gun nuts always think things happen perfectly - the same way they see dipshitty as being a good pres.

The scenario that would almost certainly happen if everyone carried guns is as follows:

Say you’re on a college campus — it could be any of a dozen types of venues: a mall, a movie theater, whatever. You’re walking across campus and you suddenly hear shooting and screaming behind you. You draw your weapon and turn around. There lots of people running and some laying on the ground, and like 5 people with guns drawn like you. What do you do? Who’s the bad guy? Are there multiple bad guys? If someone points their weapon at you, are *they* the bad guy, or do they think YOU are? If I recall a good guy pulled a gun at the Gabby Gifford shooting, and he was VERY nearly shot by another well-intentioned person — only being stopped at the last moment by someone who had seen the actual shooter. If everyone were packing, I think the number of people shot by bad guys would probably go down, and the number of good/innocent guys shot by other good guys would go up.

I actually am not completely opposed to more people carrying firearms with certain conditions. The stuff I saw from Portland and Seattle sort of changed my mind on things. But I agree that many of these “good guy with a gun” scenarios are completely unrealistic.

 

[DroolinFool]

Time for a recap. Let’s look at some proposals.

1. Armed sentries at all schools.

2. Mental health screening.

3. Background checks for all gun owners.

4. Waiting periods for gun sales.

5. All gun owners must be over 21.

6. Eliminate open-carry.

7. Ban any gun capable or convertible to rapid-fire.

8. Disarming those with violent histories.

Which are practical? Which could be effective?

1. That's a given. And not wasting cops but security specifically trained to that environment without wasting training on traffic enforcement and such.
2. Would be nice but not possible to execute without violation of a person's rights concerning personal mental health becoming public knowledge.
3. Nope. Would only have bearing on purchases by lawful citizens. Criminals wouldn't be impeded or stopped by this.
4. Tried it. Did nothing.
5. Pass. Waste of money, time, legislative bandwidth for little if any return.
6. Don't know how or why this made it to the list. Are there mass shootings caused by fudds with 1911s hanging from thier belts in the open? This makes no sense even mentioning.
7. Too hazy a verbiage. Define rapid. Full auto? Semi-auto with a quick trigger finger?
8. Criminally violent or neighbor-doesn't-like-me-so-he-calls-me-violent? Illegal for the criminally violent to own or possess firearms and the 2nd is the major sticking point with all red flag laws (aka guilty until proven innocent 4th amendment issue).