Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle?

[Grendelpuppy]

Exactly! Forcing people to own cars to get around makes them much less free. Ironically I’m typing this on the train as I head downtown to work.

Demonstrating that you are at liberty to not own or drive an automobile. All you need do is chose to live in a city where you can either walk or take mass transit, Uber or taxi.

 

[Grendelpuppy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1650951874789482496

Live look at RightGuard at home right now:

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And many of the guns on the prohibition list have never, ever been used to commit a murder. They just scare hopliphobes.

 

[Rightguide]

I applaud the many child massacre aficionados in this thread, once again you've managed to pivot the discussion from semi-automatic weapons to "car deaths".

Well played.

If you're bothered by deaths stay with cars instead of "assault weapons."

 

[Sean Renaud]

Comparing the two is stupid on its face hwoever.

 

[Rightguide]

Comparing the two is stupid on its face hwoever.

Of course that's what you might say after having one of your sacred cows so cleanly run though. Few things, save aircraft, are more thoroughly regulated, licensed, and registered than vehicles and their drivers, yet they manage to slaughter more of the human race than any rifle made.

 

[phrodeau]

Of course that's what you might say after having one of your sacred cows so cleanly run though. Few things, save aircraft, are more thoroughly regulated, licensed, and registered than vehicles and their drivers, yet they manage to slaughter more of the human race than any rifle made.

We can manage to keep cars out of schoolrooms, churches and grocery stores.

 

[ace195008]

Weapons of any sort don’t solve problems. They are used to try to solve issues but matters get even worst. Grew up in Midwest hunted for years, shot high power rifles for years, a real passion, never got so mad they were a solution to a problem. I feel people need to behave themselves and learn to be empathetic and compassionate. I am not anti-gun, anti-assault weapon , ‘yes’, these for made for the military originally.

 

[PintlerMan]

thats none of your or anyone else's business.

 

[ace195008]

thats none of your or anyone else's business.

I respect your opinion, respect mine

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Gun fetishism in the US is directly tied to racism and white men losing control and becoming fearful of black men.

 

[Rightguide]

thats none of your or anyone else's business.

He has a right to his opinion and the right to state it.

 

[KeithD]

I respect your opinion, respect mine

Nope, I have zero respect for your selfishness and disrespect for the rights of others in the way you have posted your position.

 

[Rightguide]

Nope, I have zero respect for your selfishness and disrespect for the rights of others in the way you have posted your position.

Do you need a tissue?

 

[TrailerHitch]

Life is far more than need...sometimes you want something and that is enough justification for owning it. As long as it is legal it is no one else's business what you decide to own.

 

[ace195008]

I understand these points presented and have lived aboard where civilians brought their automatic weapons home on the train and bus, they were in the military reserve and it was required of them. This same country a 16 yr old American kid drunk riding a moped was caught by the police and thrown in jail. He asked them to call his American father they refused, saying things are not done that way here. Laws are in place for a reason.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I'm a gun owner and I don't understand it myself. I'm a veteran. I see guns as a tool, to either put meat on the table or protect one's home and family. Neither of those requires an assault weapon. This isn't Hollywood, a gang of villains isn't going to assault my home. If anything it'll be a crackhead looking for something to sell. My 9mm, 12 gauge, and .22 take care of everything just fine.

Having said that, it doesn't matter if I understand it. If it's legal I will support your right to own one.

A final note on those that believe that the government will someday come door to door for your guns, like the fucking Gestapo. THAT WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER HAPPEN. Do you want to know how I know that? Because our police and military aren't faceless goons. They are your sons and daughters, father and mothers, friends and neighbors. They could no more oppress our country than you, no matter what orders they were given. Should a government ever instruct them to do so, would very shortly not be our government any longer.

So those of you desperately clutching your ARs waiting for the stormtroopers to arrive, chill out, and get on with your life. Nuff said.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Of course that's what you might say after having one of your sacred cows so cleanly run though. Few things, save aircraft, are more thoroughly regulated, licensed, and registered than vehicles and their drivers, yet they manage to slaughter more of the human race than any rifle made.

No its that one is a weapon and one is a mode of transportation. This would be up there with claiming that more people drown in pools than get killed by rifles. Which I'm willing to bet between unattended children who fell in a pool and drunk idiots on Spring and Summer Break the numbers aren't even close.


WE also have all sorts of regulations on cars. Cops will pull you over if they even see you driving too fast let alone swerving back and forth. Even going too slow can get their attention. If you have various health conditions they can take your license either temporarily or permantely. I had a seizure a few years back and that's a one year license suspension.

Still you might as well compare how many people die of health conditions directly tied to being poor in America. While that is something we should work on its not a fucking gun. And for the record I was calling both of you stupid for that comparison.

I don't much care about rifles, assault or otherwise. I recognize that Americans are too fucking stupid to start trying to get fewer handguns in the hands of citizens. Though that would be fun to see at the SCOTUS just to see their reasoning for why a handgun would pass the "Well Regulated" part of the 2A. Remember, I believe it was Justice Alito but it was a bit before my time that rules that a sawed off shotgun has no place on the battlefield and can absolutely be banned. So I would LOVE to see the logic, especially in an Urban environment on how a pistol is appropriate but a sawed off is not.

 

[TrailerHitch]

I'm a gun owner and I don't understand it myself. I'm a veteran. I see guns as a tool, to either put meat on the table or protect one's home and family. Neither of those requires an assault weapon. This isn't Hollywood, a gang of villains isn't going to assault my home. If anything it'll be a crackhead looking for something to sell. My 9mm, 12 gauge, and .22 take care of everything just fine.

Having said that, it doesn't matter if I understand it. If it's legal I will support your right to own one.

A final note on those that believe that the government will someday come door to door for your guns, like the fucking Gestapo. THAT WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER HAPPEN. Do you want to know how I know that? Because our police and military aren't faceless goons. They are your sons and daughters, father and mothers, friends and neighbors. They could no more oppress our country than you, no matter what orders they were given. Should a government ever instruct them to do so, would very shortly not be our government any longer.

So those of you desperately clutching your ARs waiting for the stormtroopers to arrive, chill out, and get on with your life. Nuff said.

I don't desperately clutch any of my guns. But I might suggest you get your hands on a copy of the Constitution and read it. You supposefly defended it yet don't seem to understand it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't desperately clutch any of my guns. But I might suggest you get your hands on a copy of the Constitution and read it. You supposefly defended it yet don't seem to understand it.

In fairness as its written the Constitution makes zero sense in a modern world so there is that.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I don't desperately clutch any of my guns. But I might suggest you get your hands on a copy of the Constitution and read it. You supposedly defended it yet don't seem to understand it.

Nope. I get it, "Shall not be infringed." As I said, I support your right to have one. However, those wealthy slave owners that wrote the Constitution never imagined a weapon capable of annihilating a schoolyard in an eyeblink, did they?

 

[TrailerHitch]

In fairness as its written the Constitution makes zero sense in a modern world so there is that.

So what's your plan? Abandon the entire Constitution? Or only the parts you don't like?

 

[TrailerHitch]

Nope. I get it, "Shall not be infringed." As I said, I support your right to have one. However, those wealthy slave owners that wrote the Constitution never imagined a weapon capable of annihilating a schoolyard in an eyeblink, did they?

They also never imagined telegraph, telephone, radio, television, computers, internet, cell phones and other tools used for free speech in an eyeblink, did they?

 

[Pad_Foot]

They also never imagined telegraph, telephone, radio, television, computers, internet, cell phones and other tools used for free speech in an eyeblink, did they?

Oddly your using any of those does not deprive me of my inalienable rights… life, liberty and pursuit of happiness
Predates Constitutional and the Bill of Rights by GOD

Based on those?? Or the abuse therein
Governments may be abolished
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

 

[RoryN]

They also never imagined telegraph, telephone, radio, television, computers, internet, cell phones and other tools used for free speech in an eyeblink, did they?

It's cute that you think you're making a relevant point here.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Oddly your using any of those does not deprive me of my inalienable rights… life, liberty and pursuit of happiness
Predates Constitutional and the Bill of Rights by GOD

Based on those?? Or the abuse therein
Governments may be abolished
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

God? That assumes that someone believes in YOUR God, or any God at all. Further someone above posted that the Constitution as written makes little sense in today's world, I maintain that the same can be said for vast parts of the Bible.

Well, if we continue down the path this country is on now it will destroy itself from within so eventually a new constitution of some sort will be written and our country will be massively changed, and not for the better.
Thomas Jefferson also said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."