Gun violence, American style - 1 in 5

Well you're sort of correct, pot is still illegal in Hawaii, Australia, and New Zealand.....(though I had hoped on the return leg the bill that passed in Hawaii would have been enacted...but..it is gona be in limbo for a while longer it seems, maybe on our next visit..)
ITs still illegal at the federal level in the US which sucks for DC residents.
 
the grandson speaking up isn't backed by the other rellies, who want to believe this was just an old man being scared of a big scary black guy who tried to drag open the door.
guess they're typical of the shooters' neighbours, 2 of whom were unwilling to even respond and the third made the kid lay on the ground with his hands behind his back first. *so fucking angry about this*

“But in the last five or six years or so, I feel like we’ve lost touch,” he said. “I’ve gotten older and gained my own political views, and he’s become staunchly right-wing, further down the right-wing rabbit hole as far as doing the election-denying conspiracy stuff and COVID conspiracies and disinformation, fully buying into the Fox News, OAN kind of line. I feel like it’s really further radicalized him in a lot of ways.”

Ludwig said his grandfather had been immersed in “a 24-hour news cycle of fear and paranoia.” “And then the NRA pushing the ‘stand your ground’ stuff and that you have to defend your home,” he said. “When I heard what happened, I was appalled and shocked that it transpired, but I didn’t disbelieve that it was true. The second I heard it, I was like, ‘Yeah, I could see him doing that.’”

Does he consider his grandfather a racist? “I believe that there have been some positions that he’s held that have been bigoted or sort of disparaging,” Ludwig said. “But it’s stock Fox News, conservative American stuff. It’s ‘anybody who gets an abortion is a murderer.’ And ‘fatherless Black families are the reason why crime exists in this country.’ It’s stuff everybody’s heard at the Thanksgiving table every year.” Ludwig said his grandfather’s paranoia had accelerated in the past couple of years.

Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article274517706.html#storylink=cpy

the thing is, given the neighbourhood's local prejudices, and the shooter's age/viewing choices, i can see him getting off if it comes to trial simply because he was, probably, genuinely afraid. Those to blame for enhancing and encouraging that fear will see no repercussions.
 
the grandson speaking up isn't backed by the other rellies, who want to believe this was just an old man being scared of a big scary black guy who tried to drag open the door.
guess they're typical of the shooters' neighbours, 2 of whom were unwilling to even respond and the third made the kid lay on the ground with his hands behind his back first. *so fucking angry about this*







Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article274517706.html#storylink=cpy

the thing is, given the neighbourhood's local prejudices, and the shooter's age/viewing choices, i can see him getting off if it comes to trial simply because he was, probably, genuinely afraid. Those to blame for enhancing and encouraging that fear will see no repercussions.

Right wing media outlets make money stoking fear and hate that predictably results in tragic and unnecessary violence, shootings, injuries, and death.

They should all be sued out of existence.

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Ha, ha. Oh my. Really?

You justify your comment by bringing up a failed marketing plan by a beer company that openly embraced a ridiculous “Woke” ideology that has cost them millions of customers and billions of dollars?

You should run for office my friend. You’d fit right in.
Anheuser-Busch hasn't lost billions of dollars, nor millions of customers...

But you keep on thinking that, and offering up rebuttals that can be disproved in heartbeat.

You didn't make the debate team in high-school, did you?
 
Anheuser-Busch hasn't lost billions of dollars, nor millions of customers...

But you keep on thinking that, and offering up rebuttals that can be disproved in heartbeat.

You didn't make the debate team in high-school, did you?

The idiot managed to insert “Woke” into their bullshit narrative, which constitutes an automatic/ unassailable “win” in their “mind”.

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Anheuser-Busch hasn't lost billions of dollars, nor millions of customers...

But you keep on thinking that, and offering up rebuttals that can be disproved in heartbeat.

You didn't make the debate team in high-school, did you?
No I didn’t. You’re right.

But I was Captain of the rifle team.
 
what would have happened if this couple were armed and shot back, wounding or even killing the original shooter?

it's getting like the fucking wild west, and we all know how that ended

Yup, we know how that ended all right. The Indian uprisings were ended and the natives pacified, the outlaws and rebels were caught and justice administered, and afterward we put our guns away and created the greatest society that has ever existed in the entire history of mankind.

Without those guns in the hands of the people, the indians would have won, the outlaws would still be murdering and thieving, and you'd still be in the UK sucking every dick you could and begging for spare tuppence afterward.
 
Yup, we know how that ended all right. The Indian uprisings were ended and the natives pacified, the outlaws and rebels were caught and justice administered, and afterward we put our guns away and created the greatest society that has ever existed in the entire history of mankind.

Without those guns in the hands of the people, the indians would have won, the outlaws would still be murdering and thieving, and you'd still be in the UK sucking every dick you could and begging for spare tuppence afterward.

So the good guys would have won? That's not the argument you should be making because there were no Indian Uprisings. There were people defending their homes against invaders.
 
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