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BrightShinyGirl said:
The collapse of a parking garage in lower Manhattan highlights the dangers of cars in cities. The popularity of SUVs mean cars are heavier than they used to be. Switching to EVs will only make the weight problem worse. They're heavier than gasoline-powered cars, causing increased wear and tear on infrastructure.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pa...s-people-injured-trapped-cbs-news-2023-04-18/
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Based on this type of thinking, we should outlaw airplanes because they make skyscrapers fall down.
 
HisArpy said:
Lol.



Which highlights your real problem; you think small and only repeat the exact words you're spoon fed while failing to understand that the world is much larger and more complex than you believe or admit to.



As for the rest, well, you brought it up. I only pointed out that the source you used for it is the hole between your ass cheeks.
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You never fail to provide hilarious irony.

So which is it, should we look at how other countries do things or shouldn’t we?
 
HisArpy said:
Based on this type of thinking, we should outlaw airplanes because they make skyscrapers fall down.
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Heavier vehicles put a greater strain on infrastructure. Trucks do more damage to roads and bridges than cars. EVs are even worse because of the weight of the batteries.

Because bikes are so much lighter, almost no maintenance is required for bike paths even if they’re used by hundreds of commuters every day.

That’s another point in favor of 15-minute cities. They don’t require the long-term infrastructure subsidies that car-centric cities do.
 
BrightShinyGirl said:
Heavier vehicles put a greater strain on infrastructure. Trucks do more damage to roads and bridges than cars. EVs are even worse because of the weight of the batteries.

Because bikes are so much lighter, almost no maintenance is required for bike paths even if they’re used by hundreds of commuters every day.

That’s another point in favor of 15-minute cities. They don’t require the long-term infrastructure subsidies that car-centric cities do.
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Mass transit is "heavier vehicles." Or didn't you consider that while parroting the party line? Then there's the FACT that not everyone can ride a bike.

Those 2 items only illustrate HOW FUCKING STUPID AND SHORT SIGHTED your belief that 15 minutes cities can solve any of the issues which face us today.
 
HisArpy said:
Mass transit is "heavier vehicles." Or didn't you consider that while parroting the party line? Then there's the FACT that not everyone can ride a bike.

Those 2 items only illustrate HOW FUCKING STUPID AND SHORT SIGHTED your belief that 15 minutes cities can solve any of the issues which face us today.
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A bus weighs 10x as much an SUV but carries 20x as many people.

There are electric bicycles for people not fit enough to pedal, and all bike paths allow motorized wheelchairs.

I feel like you’re grasping at straws—inventing hypotheticals without being aware your objections have already been raised and debated in transit advocacy circles.
 
Chernosoth said:
Buses are temporary solutions until the return of commuter rail with much higher energy efficiency.
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Because rail is expensive and takes time to build, one of the easiest ways to improve mobility in the city is eliminating on-street parking and turning the wasted lane into a bus- or bike-way. Paint and bollards are cheap and fast to install.
 
The Dutch have been doing this for nearly 50 years,gradually removing parking spaces,increasing bike and bus lanes and closing streets to cars.It helps that they have good public transport which is necessary to encourage people not to drive.
 
BrightShinyGirl said:
Walkable cities are much more friendly to the handicapped. With accommodations like curb cuts, people in electric wheel chairs can get around on their own. Not to mention people with visual impairments or brain injuries who can’t safety drive a car.
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Curb cuts have been universal in new construction for at least 2 decades and all rebuilds include them too. Nice try claiming that for your city Delusional Land.
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
What they have in common is lots of roads, cars, suburbs and all that has led to high home prices.
Whats Tennessee doing to stop Tennessee from becoming just like these state?
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It's true people are leaving due to higher costs of living, housing and taxes. But the last few I talked to, especially from Chicago, told me they are escaping rampant violent crime and politicians and DAs that seem oblivious to it, openly condoning it.
 
TrailerHitch said:
It's true people are leaving due to higher costs of living, housing and taxes. But the last few I talked to, especially from Chicago, told me they are escaping rampant violent crime and politicians and DAs that seem oblivious to it, openly condoning it.
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The crime rate in Memphis is 3x what it is in Chicago.
So you’re arguing that people are leaving Chicago to go to a place with higher crime??
 
TrailerHitch said:
Curb cuts have been universal in new construction for at least 2 decades and all rebuilds include them too. Nice try claiming that for your city Delusional Land.
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My suburban Bay Area neighborhood was built in the 1960s. About 14 miles from downtown and a million miles away in terms of noise, congestion, homeless encampments and crime. Sidewalks have been there since the development was built, curb cuts were were done in the 80s and 90s. Biggest problem are tree roots breaking up the sidewalks. City ordinance requires trees along the sidewalk strip easement, and homeowners are responsible for tree maintenance and sidewalk repair. I spend $400 per year to have my tree professionally trimmed and have to have the sidewalk repaired every 5 years or so. Typically $500 - $1,000 depending on how much damage there is. Happy to pay for keeping the street and sidewalks shady, the neighborhood looking nice, and keeping the sidewalks safe for seniors, folks in wheelchairs, and a smooth ride for babies in strollers.
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
The crime rate in Memphis is 3x what it is in Chicago.
So you’re arguing that people are leaving Chicago to go to a place with higher crime??
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Do you believe all there is in Tennessee is Memphis? Please tell me you aren't that ignorant.
 
BSG, you sure do like the ideas of really dense cities and keeping your neighbors close.

Maybe you would like televisions with cameras so that you can watch each other.

A Brave New World

Between us, have you ever seriously considered Hong Kong?
They speak English there and they live like rats in a cage...
 
JoePepsiCo said:
BSG, you sure do like the ideas of really dense cities and keeping your neighbors close.

Maybe you would like televisions with cameras so that you can watch each other.

A Brave New World

Between us, have you ever seriously considered Hong Kong?
They speak English there and they live like rats in a cage...
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I prefer to use walkable cities like Paris, Amsterdam, and Tokyo as models to aspire to.
 
icanhelp1 said:
The 15 minute cities in LA, SF are tent cities. Don't need transit> :D
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They call them Tip-Toe Towns and it isn't the tulips you have to tip-toe through. Takes 15 minutes to negotiate a few yards from tent to tent. :D
 
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