Gun violence, American style - 1 in 5

[TrailerHitch]

The necessary step one is to get all military assault weapons out of the hands of civilians. That alone will cut the issue down to a workable size. There's nothing in the 2nd Amendment guaranteeing a civilian to own a military assault rifle any more than to own a nuclear-tipped rocket.

Anyone opposing the banning of military assault weapons (or trying to dance off into the distraction of what constitutes miliary assault weapons) is just a sleazy gun nut who should have the effect of this hit their own home and loved ones--and, preferable, themselves.

First of all, very few civilians actually own "military assault weapons" and those that do need to meet a special application to buy own. How can I say that? EASY! A military "assault weapon" has the capability for selective fire, meaning it can fire fully automatic or semi-automatic. The civilian versions only fire semi-automatic, meaning one shot per trigger pull. Secondly, if you consider that when the Constitution was written civilian and military weapons were essentially the same a strict interpretation may preclude your interpretation. Thirdly, your ignorance of the topic makes your opinion essentially equivalent to a 2 year old screaming then holding their breath until they get their way.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Yes we know. American children's lives are irrelevant compared to the money to be earned by the gun industry.

Try looking at the individuals in office who repeatedly vote against any kind of gun control every single time. You'll find there is a pattern.

Americans lives, including children, are irrelevant compared to the money made by alcohol companies, or the tobacco industry, or those pushing the Covid vaccine.

 

[TrailerHitch]

The mass killing will continue until gun nuts get a clue and a brain or, like has happened to the governor of Kentucky, the deaths hit close to home. Gun nuts on this issue deserve losing their own lives on this issue. Their brains are already mush. Might as well have an assault weapon finish the job on their bodies.

So let me see if I have this right...Your call to the end of gun violence is to violently murder those you disagree with. You sir are in need of a serious mental health intervention. Red flag laws would have police at your home within hours of you posting this thinly veiled threat. Honestly you have become what you claim to hate.

 

[phrodeau]

Their brains are already mush.

That does seem to be the case.

 

[adrina]

Americans lives, including children, are irrelevant compared to the money made by alcohol companies, or the tobacco industry, or those pushing the Covid vaccine.

Alcohol and tobacco are regulated. Purchase is restricted by age. Additionally alcohol and tobacco are not the number one killer of kids under 18. Guns are.

Again we have more guns than people in the United States.

 

[Msbau071]

Alcohol and tobacco are regulated. Purchase is restricted by age. Additionally alcohol and tobacco are not the number one killer of kids under 18. Guns are.

Again we have more guns than people in the United States.

If you think age regulation works to stop kids from having access to tobacco and alcohol walk into any public school bathroom 5th grade and up and see how many kids have vapes. Lol how many people you know had alcohol before 21? I literally don’t know anyone who didn’t.

 

[adrina]

If you think age regulation works to stop kids from having access to tobacco and alcohol walk into any public school bathroom 5th grade and up and see how many kids have vapes. Lol how many people you know had alcohol before 21? I literally don’t know anyone who didn’t.

I'm simply pointing out that there are restrictions.

However you did help make my point in that with the massive number of guns in the United States - hundreds and hundreds of millions, more than people - they are getting easily into criminal hands and into the hands of those who use them to hurt and kill others.

The massive number of guns in the United States has become a threat to public safety. The second amendment was never meant to be placed above "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness". But it is.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I'll take the blame. I have A LOT of guns! Way, way more guns that people in my house. LOTS and lots of guns!

 

[VinnyVeritas]

I'll take the blame. I have A LOT of guns! Way, way more guns that people in my house. LOTS and lots of guns!

I share the blame, but my guns are a lazy lot, they have yet to get out of the safe and actually shoot someone.

Fucking slackers.

 

[adrina]

So I guess it's appropriate to make jokes when the number one killer of children is gun violence. And I guess it's just a real hoot and a holler that we have mass shootings more than every day.

Guns really are more important than American lives and the lives of American children.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

Bullshit.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/child-health.htm

You need to get your facts in order before you spout off in ignorance.

 

[adrina]

Bullshit.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/child-health.htm

You need to get your facts in order before you spout off in ignorance.

Cool now do it up to 18 years old. Which is what I said. Which is 100% correct. And the fact that you're trying to dismiss the massive number of shootings that children are victimized by is beyond the pale. You do not get to claim to be pro-life when you are willing to sacrifice America's children for gun profits.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

"Motor vehicle crashes were the leading cause of death for children and adolescents, representing 20% of all deaths; firearm-related injuries were the second leading cause of death, responsible for 15% of deaths."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsr1804754

 

[VinnyVeritas]

Cool.

Keep moving those goalposts.

Sounds rough. I hope your day gets better...

 

[VinnyVeritas]

"Motor vehicle crashes were the leading cause of death for children and adolescents,

 

[adrina]

Out of date. See December of 2022. And the fact that you're still trying to equivocate the reality that gun death is such a problem in America for Americans and American children is disgusting.

At some point real and sane policy has to replace the own the libs "policy".

 

[VinnyVeritas]

Out of date. See December of 2022. And the fact that you're still trying to equivocate the reality that gun death is such a problem in America for Americans and American children is disgusting.

At some point real and sane policy has to replace the own the libs "policy".

So, since that report, there has been a mountain-sea change in the causes of death in people under 18.


Gotcha.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

People kill with rocks, knives, insta pots, axes, and on and on and on...

I've heard that it is even done with kindness...

 

[adrina]

I find it interesting that you want to try to compare gun death to car accidents when it comes to children. To drive a vehicle you must have a license. To get that license you must have passed both a written and field test. Including paying a fee. Often times one takes instructions in order to pass those tests. In order to have a vehicle one must register the vehicle and carry insurance. Additionally one must obey all traffic laws and rules of the road or risk having the privilege to drive being revoked.

Again the fact that you are simply making light of the public safety risk that guns have become in America is ludicrous. Owning the libs is not sane or good policy.

Every time you post arguing against this reality, all you are doing is announcing to the world that you think guns are more important than American lives and the lives of American children.

It is happening every single day, multiple times a day. Gun violence is a public menace.

 

[ll74]

"Motor vehicle crashes were the leading cause of death for children and adolescents, representing 20% of all deaths; firearm-related injuries were the second leading cause of death, responsible for 15% of deaths."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsr1804754

Now do deaths that occurred where the injury/death was intended and without insurance of risk.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

Move that goalpost, just keep moving that goalpost...

You made an absolute claim and it was refuted, easily.
Now you want the refutation defended based upon ever-shifting metrics and your redefinitions simply because you cannot admit to having made a slight error.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

Now do deaths that occurred where the injury/death was intended and without insurance of risk.

Sounds rough.

Maybe you should do that and please, try to have a better day.

 

[icanhelp1]

So I guess it's appropriate to make jokes when the number one killer of children is gun violence. And I guess it's just a real hoot and a holler that we have mass shootings more than every day.

Guns really are more important than American lives and the lives of American children.

Some states are actually making a more positive approach toward protecting children. They’re putting restrictions on children and the internet. Monitoring what children can access will help ( I hope ) provide a safety net and maybe snag dark hearts before things get out of hand. One little step forward to maybe saving the mental health of our children. The internet is just loaded with evil. Maybe forcing parents to play an active role in controlling what children are exposed to.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

The answer is Z!

W, X, Y > Z

Then Diffy-Q W, X and Y and what does that leave you?


Z

 

[Lazaran]

Law enforcement of illegal guns for dummies (TrailerTrash aka BidudeWI)

1: Individuals comply with the law and stop possessing those illegal guns.

2: Individuals don’t comply with the law and risk the consequences of noncompliance / continued possession of those illegal guns.

That ^ is also how it works with certain drugs that are deemed too dangerous for the public to freely possess due to abuse or lethality.

Hope that helps.

TrailerTrash aka BidudeWI