Another successful school shooting today.

[adrina]

So... instead of protecting the children. Or even offering hollow public statements. The republicans have decided to just remove people from power.

One down. Jones is out. Johnson made the cut. The fascists didn't get to remove her. Pearson may lose his seat soon too.

Because guns are more important than children. To conservatives and republicans.

We are not safer because of the guns in the US. Just the opposite.

 

[Dribble]

So... instead of protecting the children. Or even offering hollow public statements. The republicans have decided to just remove people from power.

One down. Jones is out. Johnson made the cut. The fascists didn't get to remove her. Pearson may lose his seat soon too.

Because guns are more important than children. To conservatives and republicans.

We are not safer because of the guns in the US. Just the opposite.

So honesty time...put your hatred of me aside...do you think we can still save this Country? Or do you understand a little why I promote saving what can be saved? This is only gonna get worse. What is the breaking point for you? How many kids have to die?

 

[adrina]

So honesty time...put your hatred of me aside...do you think we can still save this Country? Or do you understand a little why I promote saving what can be saved? This is only gonna get worse. What is the breaking point for you? How many kids have to die?

Hate? You assign yourself a bit of import that's not there.

I understand that as long as Americans don't give a fuck then America is doomed. If Americans start giving a fuck and getting actively involved then it can be turned around. If not, then the buzzards will pick the bones.

If you want to denigrate me or harass me for this post, party on garth. I have no problem dismissing you again.

 

[icanhelp1]

So... instead of protecting the children. Or even offering hollow public statements. The republicans have decided to just remove people from power.

One down. Jones is out. Johnson made the cut. The fascists didn't get to remove her. Pearson may lose his seat soon too.

Because guns are more important than children. To conservatives and republicans.

We are not safer because of the guns in the US. Just the opposite.

Just once stop being such a hypocrite. Those three individuals were part of a legislative body, they hijacked a public legislative session, their conduct was unbecoming. They suppressed everyone else’s freedom of speech.

Had this been three pro life legislators amidst a pro choice majority legislative body hijacking a pro abortion discussion they would have been drawn and quartered and you would have been fine with it.

 

[adrina]

Just once stop being such a hypocrite. Those three individuals were part of a legislative body, they hijacked a public legislative session, their conduct was unbecoming. They suppressed everyone else’s freedom of speech.

Had this been three pro life legislators amidst a pro choice majority legislative body hijacking a pro abortion discussion they would have been drawn and quartered and you would have been fine with it.

No actually I wouldn't. I'm not an idiot trumper who believes the constitution means whatever the fuck I think it should mean whenever the fuck I think it should mean it. And further not mean it when I don't think it should. That's your bullshit shtick.

They were duly elected by the people but removed because of party politics and putting the party above the state and the country.

Hypocrite? Ha. Fucking A. You're one to talk.

 

[icanhelp1]

No actually I wouldn't. I'm not an idiot trumper who believes the constitution means whatever the fuck I think it should mean whenever the fuck I think it should mean it. And further not mean it when I don't think it should. That's your bullshit shtick.

They were duly elected by the people but removed because of party politics and putting the party above the state and the country.

Hypocrite? Ha. Fucking A. You're one to talk.

Then why are the rights to free speech of those three individuals more important than the free speech rights of the whole legislative body? They were trying to shove their agenda Down everyone’s throat. They represent only a small portion of the state.

When someone tries to have a dialogue with you and disagrees with you we’re Trumpers.

Trump was impeached twice because of partisan politics, cry me a river.

 

[ll74]

Then why are the rights to free speech of those three individuals more important than the free speech rights of the whole legislative body? They were trying to shove their agenda Down everyone’s throat. They represent only a small portion of the state.

When someone tries to have a dialogue with you and disagrees with you we’re Trumpers.

Trump was impeached twice because of partisan politics, cry me a river.

At worst, they deserved to be sanctioned or censored.

 

[adrina]

Then why are the rights to free speech of those three individuals more important than the free speech rights of the whole legislative body? They were trying to shove their agenda Down everyone’s throat. They represent only a small portion of the state.

When someone tries to have a dialogue with you and disagrees with you we’re Trumpers.

Trump was impeached twice because of partisan politics, cry me a river.

Perhaps it has something to do with the string of dead children's bodies...

They aren't being expelled for trying to shove an agenda down everyone's throats. They are being punished by the republicans because they dared to speak out against the neverending gun violence.

You are a trumper. Trump was impeached because of his behavior and actions.

 

[icanhelp1]

At worst, they deserved to be sanctioned or censored.

I could agree with that, I wasn’t there but the video was pretty telling. Trying to convince me that dem majorities wouldn’t do the same, well, Dems play hardball all the time.

 

[icanhelp1]

Perhaps it has something to do with the string of dead children's bodies...

They aren't being expelled for trying to shove an agenda down everyone's throats. They are being punished by the republicans because they dared to speak out against the neverending gun violence.

You are a trumper. Trump was impeached because of his behavior and actions.

You attempt to draw a line, on one side is red conservative gun lovers and on the other side are blue democrat gun haters. That’s pie in the sky bullshit. Dems love their guns also and support 2A. There are democrats out there that own ARs. Both parties hate gun violence and both parties have solutions but you have to ask yourself why do cities with the strictest gun laws suffer from high gun violence. Part of the problem is enforcement, the other part is medical and mental health.

 

[adrina]

You attempt to draw a line, on one side is red conservative gun lovers and on the other side are blue democrat gun haters. That’s pie in the sky bullshit. Dems love their guns also and support 2A. There are democrats out there that own ARs. Both parties hate gun violence and both parties have solutions but you have to ask yourself why do cities with the strictest gun laws suffer from high gun violence. Part of the problem is enforcement, the other part is medical and mental health.

Actually you do that.

You do the divide thing. You drip hate.

The reality is that there are more guns in America than there are people. 2a wasn't meant to be abused by zealots who are willing to sacrifice the nation's children in order to enrich weaponry manufacturers.

Your last line is the same old bullshit argument that's been dealt with time and time again. And you know it. But instead of listening to the statistics and hearing the truth that gun control actually does decrease gun violence and death, you point to Chicago knowing full well the guns coming into Chicago are from adjacent areas with no or little gun control measures.

Just admit it. You are selling out and sacrificing American children and families... so gun manufacturers can make bank.

(Ironic you bring up both enforcement and mental health considering every single politician you support and vote for does nothing but remove enforcement and remove access to mental health services and then enable situations which makes it worse.)

 

[ll74]

I could agree with that, I wasn’t there but the video was pretty telling. Trying to convince me that dem majorities wouldn’t do the same, well, Dems play hardball all the time.

They would've done it already. Plenty of J6 participants that the Dems want out.

 

[icanhelp1]

Actually you do that.

You do the divide thing. You drip hate.

The reality is that there are more guns in America than there are people. 2a wasn't meant to be abused by zealots who are willing to sacrifice the nation's children in order to enrich weaponry manufacturers.

Your last line is the same old bullshit argument that's been dealt with time and time again. And you know it. But instead of listening to the statistics and hearing the truth that gun control actually does decrease gun violence and death, you point to Chicago knowing full well the guns coming into Chicago are from adjacent areas with no or little gun control measures.

Just admit it. You are selling out and sacrificing American children and families... so gun manufacturers can make bank.

(Ironic you bring up both enforcement and mental health considering every single politician you support and vote for does nothing but remove enforcement and remove access to mental health services and then enable situations which makes it worse.)

When I was younger and in school I used to keep my guns in my car. Never had problems.

Remove enforcement, get real. How many gun felons have been released on Bragg’s, Lightfoot or Bowser’s watch.

My two daughters own firearms, I taught them gun safety and how to use them and they‘re now doing the very same thing with their kids.

I live in MA, my politicians are idiots and will never get voted out of office. Our state produced some of the most corrupt politicians in history starting with the Kennedys. My politicians believe rules for thee not for me.

 

[adrina]

When I was younger and in school I used to keep my guns in my car. Never had problems.

Remove enforcement, get real. How many gun felons have been released on Bragg’s, Lightfoot or Bowser’s watch.

My two daughters own firearms, I taught them gun safety and how to use them and they‘re now doing the very same thing with their kids.

I live in MA, my politicians are idiots and will never get voted out of office. Our state produced some of the most corrupt politicians in history starting with the Kennedys. My politicians believe rules for thee not for me.

Goody gumdrops?

You didn't address a thing I said.

 

[adrina]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/06/us/tennessee-democrats-office-removal-vote/index.html

In an extraordinary, emotionally charged session marked by tense exchanges and punctuated by boos and chants from onlookers, Tennessee’s Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted to expel two Black lawmakers – but failed to oust a third representative – a week after the three Democrats led a gun reform protest in the chamber.


The crowd in the gallery erupted in boos and chants following both expulsions and loud cheers when the vote count turned up just short in the bid to oust Rep. Gloria Johnson. The session lasted seven hours.


The vote over rules violations for Jones split along party lines 72-25, while the vote in Pearson’s case was 69-26. Johnson’s vote was 65-30. Expulsion from the House requires a two-thirds majority of the total membership.

Don't worry about the dead kids. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Dribble]

Hate? You assign yourself a bit of import that's not there.

I understand that as long as Americans don't give a fuck then America is doomed. If Americans start giving a fuck and getting actively involved then it can be turned around. If not, then the buzzards will pick the bones.

If you want to denigrate me or harass me for this post, party on garth. I have no problem dismissing you again.

Just like I try to get our Republican friends to define what attracts them to the Republican Party when it is broken...I try to get my Democrat friends to explain their views. If my Party offered more...and wouldn't disenfranchise entire electorates...then we wouldn't be here. You blame those just trying to survive. I blame my Party. You can dismiss me...just like my Party does.

 

[TrailerHitch]

So... instead of protecting the children. Or even offering hollow public statements. The republicans have decided to just remove people from power.

One down. Jones is out. Johnson made the cut. The fascists didn't get to remove her. Pearson may lose his seat soon too.

Because guns are more important than children. To conservatives and republicans.

We are not safer because of the guns in the US. Just the opposite.

Okay let's look at what really happened. These three democrats interfered with the legislative session, one of them with a bull horn. They attempted to incite the crowd in the gallery to take action against the republicans. They broke rules in the house and they knew they were doing it. Some of the media is calling this an insurrection. I wouldn't go that far but it definitely was an attempt to incite action, and perhaps violence, against republican law makers.

So let's stop the media led hype and do some actual fact finding.

 

[adrina]

Okay let's look at what really happened. These three democrats interfered with the legislative session, one of them with a bull horn. They attempted to incite the crowd in the gallery to take action against the republicans. They broke rules in the house and they knew they were doing it. Some of the media is calling this an insurrection. I wouldn't go that far but it definitely was an attempt to incite action, and perhaps violence, against republican law makers.

So let's stop the media led hype and do some actual fact finding.

To echo IL74, it was worth at most a censure or sanction. Republicans used the opportunity to remove them. That was a blatant power grab, once again putting their party above everything else. Including children.

The reality is that kids are dying and gun violence is out of control. Something has to wake people up.

 

[TrailerHitch]

To echo IL74, it was worth at most a censure or sanction. Republicans used the opportunity to remove them. That was a blatant power grab, once again putting their party above everything else. Including children.

The reality is that kids are dying and gun violence is out of control. Something has to wake people up.

So in this case you are okay with DEMOCRATS illegally disrupting the legislative process and inciting the crowd?

 

[adrina]

So in this case you are okay with DEMOCRATS illegally disrupting the legislative process and inciting the crowd?

I'm having a big problem with more dead children every week and the only response is "thoughts and prayers". All while taking NRA and weapons manufacturer's money in order to turn a blind eye.

Three state lawmakers holding a demonstration is small potatoes. J6 federal senators and representatives didn't even so much as receive a censure for their active encouragement of that fiasco.

No I don't think they deserved to lose their seat over this stunt. Just like I don't think children's lives should be fodder for profits.

 

[adrina]

Just like I try to get our Republican friends to define what attracts them to the Republican Party when it is broken...I try to get my Democrat friends to explain their views. If my Party offered more...and wouldn't disenfranchise entire electorates...then we wouldn't be here. You blame those just trying to survive. I blame my Party. You can dismiss me...just like my Party does.

Why give more to those who offer nothing - not even their votes? Apathy put us in this position. The apathy of the electorate that couldn't and still can't be fucked to actually be an electorate.

I'm not going round and round on this bullshit with you. You poor poor victim and every American is a poor poor victim according to you. They apparently have no ability to register to vote and no ability to vote. Every single one of the over half of the citizens that can't be fucked to vote are these poor pathetic victims that are so oppressed that they can't register or vote. The 90% of the electorate that misses the primaries are so downtrodden that they are held hostage and can't make it to the polls.

Give me a fucking break.

The reason they don't vote isn't because they can't. They don't vote because they don't care. Shopping is more important than voting to the average American. Carry your banner for those poor victims. As they shop themselves into fascism.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The tantrum strategy didn’t work. Better to work within the framework of the state constitution and house rules.

 

[Dribble]

They are black. They implemented their right as an American. Republicans don't like black people...let alone black people that speak out. They just like silent niggers. Those that understand white rule.

 

[Dribble]

Why give more to those who offer nothing - not even their votes? Apathy put us in this position. The apathy of the electorate that couldn't and still can't be fucked to actually be an electorate.

I'm not going round and round on this bullshit with you. You poor poor victim and every American is a poor poor victim according to you. They apparently have no ability to register to vote and no ability to vote. Every single one of the over half of the citizens that can't be fucked to vote are these poor pathetic victims that are so oppressed that they can't register or vote. The 90% of the electorate that misses the primaries are so downtrodden that they are held hostage and can't make it to the polls.

Give me a fucking break.

The reason they don't vote isn't because they can't. They don't vote because they don't care. Shopping is more important than voting to the average American. Carry your banner for those poor victims. As they shop themselves into fascism.

Where did I say they "can't"? I said if a Party wants to solicit a voting block...then you don't alienate them. Sorry....just because the the Republicans are worse is not a reason to vote. Know why? Because their life is the same regardless. That is the reality of the World.

Fascism....is the future of this country. Because of people like you. And because of the Party promoting it. Not because of those that just want to have a better life.

You want to promote unity? Don't insult the block you want to vote for you. They will...then when you stab them in the back...they see you for what you are. A group that don't give a shit about their day to day battles. A group that is only important for your gain.

 

[adrina]

Where did I say they "can't"? I said if a Party wants to solicit a voting block...then you don't alienate them. Sorry....just because the the Republicans are worse is not a reason to vote. Know why? Because their life is the same regardless. That is the reality of the World.

Fascism....is the future of this country. Because of people like you. And because of the Party promoting it. Not because of those that just want to have a better life.

You want to promote unity? Don't insult the block you want to vote for you. They will...then when you stab them in the back...they see you for what you are. A group that don't give a shit about their day to day battles. A group that is only important for your gain.

Well of course it's the same. They can't show up to the polls they won't show up to the polls they don't show up to the polls. But they go to Target. And Walmart. And Best buy. And on and on and on. Voting is not what they care about.

I used to be nicer about it. Like I've told you before I used to actively work in volunteering in getting people to the polls. It doesn't matter if you are nice or if you are mean or if you are neutral. They don't care about voting. If it makes you feel better to call me the evil one, which it obviously does, I don't care. I can guarantee you have not put in one tenth of the work I have in trying to get people to vote. So please go ahead and sit in judgment and blame me because it's easier than acknowledging that your fellow Americans just don't care. They are consumers, not citizens. Of their own volition.