LW Has Turned Into a Misogynist Wasteland

[BillandKate]

Kate and I have posted multiple stories, most of them in the LW category, but maybe never again. This week a story titled 'Monster' - which set a new low standard in misogynist porn - was published and currently has a 4.23 rating - plus numerous comments cheering the psychopath for his behavior. The man was betrayed by his wife and best friend, indefensible behavior, but the jilted husband threatened the pair, telling them he tortured the man who seduced his married cousin by cutting out the man's tongue and eyes - and implied they deserve the same treatment.

Anyone who thinks this is an appropriate response to adultery is either mentally ill or a Taliban. Yes, we wish the couple who committed such a grievous betrayal a lifetime of sorrow, but mutilation? Nothing erotic about that. LW has descended into a wasteland. The truly erotic stories of 'married extra-marital fun...' are rated low, no matter the content. And 'burn the bitch', the more harsh the better, are rated high and are cheered in the comment section. Kate and I published some hotwife fantasies - yes, fantasies - and we removed them after receiving comments that included death threats.

This is one more plea to the owners of Literotica to split LW into two sections. One for the angry misogynists who want to stone adulterers and another for the erotic fantasies of the loving wife lifestyle - the original intent of the category.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Why are you telling us about this cesspit here?

This is The Good Place - or is it The Bad Place?

Anyway, do you want to build a snowman?

Em

 

[SirBurnInside]

I got my first taste of LW yesterday and the vile hatred that comes with putting a cuckold husband story in there. I have to say as funny as I find the attempted hurtful comments personally, it is shocking the amount of moronic misogyny and often homophobia that is spewed in the comments.

I've just seen all my stories have been down voted with multiple 1* hits too because I dared to post a made up story to entertain people who are into something the wanna be tough guys and hardcore haters cant tolorate, but of course that is par for the course in LW now.

It's amazing how the same people who claim to despise the stuff will obsessively open every cuckold story in the category and vote it a 1* then completely deride and belittle the author, questioning their sexuality and manhood etc.

Of course 99% of it is just Internet muscles on show, people trying to sound like they are more manly than anyone else, that they are real men! When the truth is they are keyboard warriors who would piss their pants if they had to go face to face with the person they are slagging off.

Someone did make a good suggestion in my story comments, they suggested making a 'loving cuck' category for such stories, kind of like you suggest yourself, and I think that will be the only way forwards or it will get worse and worse.

 

[Differentendeavours]

Kate and I have posted multiple stories, most of them in the LW category, but maybe never again. This week a story titled 'Monster' - which set a new low standard in misogynist porn - was published and currently has a 4.23 rating - plus numerous comments cheering the psychopath for his behavior. The man was betrayed by his wife and best friend, indefensible behavior, but the jilted husband threatened the pair, telling them he tortured the man who seduced his married cousin by cutting out the man's tongue and eyes - and implied they deserve the same treatment.

Anyone who thinks this is an appropriate response to adultery is either mentally ill or a Taliban. Yes, we wish the couple who committed such a grievous betrayal a lifetime of sorrow, but mutilation? Nothing erotic about that. LW has descended into a wasteland. The truly erotic stories of 'married extra-marital fun...' are rated low, no matter the content. And 'burn the bitch', the more harsh the better, are rated high and are cheered in the comment section. Kate and I published some hotwife fantasies - yes, fantasies - and we removed them after receiving comments that included death threats.

This is one more plea to the owners of Literotica to split LW into two sections. One for the angry misogynists who want to stone adulterers and another for the erotic fantasies of the loving wife lifestyle - the original intent of the category.

They would keep posting stories in the erotic LW category and rip the stories there anyway. The only way to troll is to troll.

 

[PastMaster]

I have written a number of stories in the LW category - some have been BTB and others RAAC. With each story you get hatred spewed at you from either side. If you write a reconcillation story - you become a weak Cuck faggot and deserve to die, and if you write a btb then you are a heinous vicious and violent mysogynistic murderer.(I am actually neither you'll be pleased to know) In the case of one of my stories, I was attacked not only in the feedback, but in the forums as well, by other authors who really should know better.
As has been noted here - you can't do right for doing wrong.
I agree that there should be another place to put your fantasies, but as has been pointed out many times in the forums you are tilting at windmills if you think that the site owners are ever going to listen any suggestions from the authors.
I do kind of get the emotion that cheating wife stories engender (not consensual extra marital fun) having been cheated on myself - Its 30 years ago but it reading about a cheating wife still brings back the memories and the pain. What I dont understand is if people have such painful memories, why read the story in the first place? Steer clear of it and it wont cause you pain, and you wont have to react like a complete tool.
There are other kinks here that are not my thing, and I dont read those stories either.

 

[Seadog777]

Kate and I have posted multiple stories, most of them in the LW category, but maybe never again. This week a story titled 'Monster' - which set a new low standard in misogynist porn - was published and currently has a 4.23 rating - plus numerous comments cheering the psychopath for his behavior. The man was betrayed by his wife and best friend, indefensible behavior, but the jilted husband threatened the pair, telling them he tortured the man who seduced his married cousin by cutting out the man's tongue and eyes - and implied they deserve the same treatment.

Anyone who thinks this is an appropriate response to adultery is either mentally ill or a Taliban. Yes, we wish the couple who committed such a grievous betrayal a lifetime of sorrow, but mutilation? Nothing erotic about that. LW has descended into a wasteland. The truly erotic stories of 'married extra-marital fun...' are rated low, no matter the content. And 'burn the bitch', the more harsh the better, are rated high and are cheered in the comment section. Kate and I published some hotwife fantasies - yes, fantasies - and we removed them after receiving comments that included death threats.

This is one more plea to the owners of Literotica to split LW into two sections. One for the angry misogynists who want to stone adulterers and another for the erotic fantasies of the loving wife lifestyle - the original intent of the category.

Seems to me like you want an entity(Literotica) to cater to your personal belief system and the hell with anybody's else's POV.

I personally think that cheaters absolutely deserve incredibly painful, physical, mental and emotional torture.
They completely rip out and destroy the heart and soul of the person they cheat on.
I was and never will be the same man again, after my personal experience going through it.
Women are just as vicious as men. Human history proves that out, so it's far from a "misogynist" problem.
Men are just more vocal about their displeasure on here.

Your definition of "loving wife lifestyle" seems to be different from mine and others, and that's OK.
As long as both parties are agreeable, then it's a completely different situation.

If Laurel was to split one category to fit a narrative, then she'd have to split all the categories and that's just unrealistic.

Don't write for other people, write for yourself.
When you do that, the scores don't matter at all.

I hope that you both are safe, warm, and dry where you are.
It's like a cow pissing on a flat rock here, and the wind is angry as a hornet.

P.S. Thank you for your kind words and encouragement that you left in the comment section on one of my stories. I appericate it.

SD

 

[Lady2020]

Are you saying this is recent???

 

[Lifestyle66]

Kate and I have posted multiple stories, most of them in the LW category, but maybe never again. This week a story titled 'Monster' - which set a new low standard in misogynist porn - was published and currently has a 4.23 rating - plus numerous comments cheering the psychopath for his behavior. ...

I read that story "Monster". And the thing that caught my attention was the idea that "by our actions and decisions, we create monsters in others"!

In looking back at my own life, I can see where others might have been further driven to a darker side by my decisions, and why others have driven me toward darker thoughts.

When many people today think their own choices and decisions are the ULTIMATE right and good-for-all, they are more than naive. And I appreciated that story as a caricature showing how it is wrong to believe your choices have no consequences.

I rated that story a 4, because it gave me pause in thought!

 

[Zootonius]

Sir, this is a Wendy's

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Kate and I have posted multiple stories, most of them in the LW category, but maybe never again. This week a story titled 'Monster' - which set a new low standard in misogynist porn - was published and currently has a 4.23 rating - plus numerous comments cheering the psychopath for his behavior. The man was betrayed by his wife and best friend, indefensible behavior, but the jilted husband threatened the pair, telling them he tortured the man who seduced his married cousin by cutting out the man's tongue and eyes - and implied they deserve the same treatment.

Anyone who thinks this is an appropriate response to adultery is either mentally ill or a Taliban. Yes, we wish the couple who committed such a grievous betrayal a lifetime of sorrow, but mutilation? Nothing erotic about that. LW has descended into a wasteland. The truly erotic stories of 'married extra-marital fun...' are rated low, no matter the content. And 'burn the bitch', the more harsh the better, are rated high and are cheered in the comment section. Kate and I published some hotwife fantasies - yes, fantasies - and we removed them after receiving comments that included death threats.

This is one more plea to the owners of Literotica to split LW into two sections. One for the angry misogynists who want to stone adulterers and another for the erotic fantasies of the loving wife lifestyle - the original intent of the category.

Stop being judgemental and enjoy writing and reading what you like, and ignore what you don't like. Get over it.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Seems to me like you want an entity(Literotica) to cater to your personal belief system and the hell with anybody's else's POV.

And I'll add that it is exactly the same attitude that the readers that the OP is upset with take. The OP is being hypocritical as all hell. The only difference is whether the bitch should be burned or not and how hot the flames. It's all socio-political and personal tastes. If Bill and Kate wanna be that childish that should take their toys and go home, start their own smut site where only people who agree with them can post.

 

[Quinn_McMullen]

I had an idea to troll the trolls. I have a story called "Adultery" where two people plan and execute an extra-marital affair. I think I'll post it just to fire some LW trolls up.

 

[Seadog777]

And I'll add that it is exactly the same attitude that the readers that the OP is upset with take. The OP is being hypocritical as all hell. The only difference is whether the bitch should be burned or not and how hot the flames. It's all socio-political and personal tastes. If Bill and Kate wanna be that childish that should take their toys and go home, start their own smut site where only people who agree with them can post.

It will always be personal tastes.
I read stories every day here, regardless of category.
While @BillandKate are correct in that the BTB stories do tend to get higher scores, it doesn't matter what someone writes, they're going to catch "hate" from people.
That's why I say that everyone should just write for themselves, and the hell with the scores.

SD

 

[Andrew1968]

It’s a rather bizarre situation: you have one group of complete strangers on the internet rubbishing the sexual fantasies and preferences of another group of complete strangers on the internet.

Why would you even bother doing this? It’s ridiculous and pathetic. I sometimes think I’m reading the comments of children when I look at all those nasty posts.

The LW category still gets clobbered with sharing/hot-wife/cuckolding type stories, despite the nasty comments and low scores. The continual rubbishing of the sexual fantasies and preferences of a group of complete strangers on the internet hasn’t stopped or even slowed the number of sharing/hot-wife/cuckolding type stories published in LW. The rubbishing clearly isn’t working.

But why would you bother rubbishing these types of stories anyway?

It seems to me that a certain audience, which is primarily male, very conservative, right-wing, and I think white is assuming that a conspiracy to render all men weak, submissive and indecisive is well underway. Apparently, this slowly moving plague, which is surreptitiously and malevolently corrupting men, is spreading its propaganda through these sharing/hot-wife/cuckolding type stories. That’s the impression I get.

I think this audience is quite happy seeing women play the role of 1950s Stepford Wives. Any woman who has sex with another man, who is not her husband, with his knowledge and approval, is surely using some form of black magic or dark glamour and is hence a Salem witch and must be burnt at the stake.

It’s so pathetic and ridiculous. What comes across when you consider the BTB crowd is this: they are so unsure of themselves, they lack so much confidence in themselves. A confident, self-assured person is quite happy to allow others to enjoy their fantasies and preferences. If you like 1950s Stepford Wives, then good luck to you, but you really shouldn’t be rubbishing the fantasies and preferences of others. It makes you look little and without a strong center.

 

[lc69hunter]

Kate and I have posted multiple stories, most of them in the LW category, but maybe never again. This week a story titled 'Monster' - which set a new low standard in misogynist porn - was published and currently has a 4.23 rating - plus numerous comments cheering the psychopath for his behavior. The man was betrayed by his wife and best friend, indefensible behavior, but the jilted husband threatened the pair, telling them he tortured the man who seduced his married cousin by cutting out the man's tongue and eyes - and implied they deserve the same treatment.

Anyone who thinks this is an appropriate response to adultery is either mentally ill or a Taliban. Yes, we wish the couple who committed such a grievous betrayal a lifetime of sorrow, but mutilation? Nothing erotic about that. LW has descended into a wasteland. The truly erotic stories of 'married extra-marital fun...' are rated low, no matter the content. And 'burn the bitch', the more harsh the better, are rated high and are cheered in the comment section. Kate and I published some hotwife fantasies - yes, fantasies - and we removed them after receiving comments that included death threats.

This is one more plea to the owners of Literotica to split LW into two sections. One for the angry misogynists who want to stone adulterers and another for the erotic fantasies of the loving wife lifestyle - the original intent of the category.

My comment on the story was that he needed to have a bullet between his eyes, and I would be the one to do it. It was a disgusting piece of trash.

 

[alohadave]

It seems to me that a certain audience, which is primarily male, very conservative, right-wing, and I think white is assuming that a conspiracy to render all men weak, submissive and indecisive is well underway. Apparently, this slowly moving plague, which is surreptitiously and malevolently corrupting men, is spreading its propaganda through these sharing/hot-wife/cuckolding type stories. That’s the impression I get.

I don't think there is a corrupting influence going on. More likely that like attracts like. People that think like this find people who express these things, and join in the behavior because it's not squashed.

 

[CyranoJ]

Honestly, at this point I would give LW a miss. Just pick another category. Lit clearly does not have what it takes to correct the problem and is neve going to.

 

[KeithD]

Each of us has full control over whether we write or read in that category at all.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Honestly, at this point I would give LW a miss. Just pick another category. Lit clearly does not have what it takes to correct the problem and is neve going to.

The only problem is people writing for scores and accolades and expecting readers to either agree with what they wrote or at least be civil about it. The moment that you put such expectations upon the readership you just thin your own skin. You can't control what others think feel and say. It's a vain pursuit, literally. It's like trying to defy gravity and sulking when you fail. Putting stuff out there for the purpose of applause and bouquets is nothing but a goddamn ego stroke. So it's the writer's own fault if the mobs fail to stroke him. Get over yourself.

So stop whining and stop giving two fucks what the trolls say. Write to write because you love doing it and you have stories in you to tell. If people like them, great. If they don't, fuck 'em.

 

[StrangeLife]

The rage of the BTB crowd is part of the fun. Whenever you feel like learning some new curses, all you've gotta do is slap together a cuckcold story and let the wife get the better of her man.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Wow! So many narrow-minded people. And from supposed AUTHORS!

I would expect more authors READING into the thoughts of other authors here. But I've come to realize there are far more narrow minded than not!

IMO, the "Monsters" story was a caricature of the BTB attitudes found in the Loving Wives category. IMO, those of you who didn't read that story are merely here spouting uninformed opinions, and those who did read it and came away offended with the 'monster' failed to see the underlying theme: "We created our own monsters in our lives!"

 

[ElectricBlue]

My comment on the story was that he needed to have a bullet between his eyes, and I would be the one to do it. It was a disgusting piece of trash.

Can we not have LW commentary here. Go back over your bridge.

 

[alohadave]

My comment on the story was that he needed to have a bullet between his eyes, and I would be the one to do it. It was a disgusting piece of trash.

Unless you also posted a comment under an alt, your comment was "not my type of story".

 

[Lifestyle66]

The OP started with the comment: "This week a story titled 'Monster' - which set a new low standard in misogynist porn - was published and currently has a 4.23 rating - plus numerous comments cheering the psychopath for his behavior. The man was betrayed by his wife and best friend, indefensible behavior, but the jilted husband threatened the pair, telling them he tortured the man who seduced his married cousin by cutting out the man's tongue and eyes - and implied they deserve the same treatment."

Before commenting on the trash in LW, READ the story "Monster" by 'jamesapple'. It's only 2.4k words.

The particular part I saw was: "Greg fixed his guests with a look. "What you did burned away the Greg you knew. And burning hurts, badly. And I will never forget nor forgive the pain you brought him" -- the fact that Greg was referring to his old self in the third person was not lost on Tom -- "nor the disrespect. But, in deference to Carlie, I will leave you alone if you both leave me alone." "

I don't see how this is "misogynist porn"!!!

 

[Seadog777]

The rage of the BTB crowd is part of the fun.

This is very true.

I don't set out to write a BTB or RAAC story, but it is funny to see these keyboard warriors lose their shit.

My wife and I have gotten a lot of laughs reading the comments.