Nashville Shooter Is A 28 Year Old Woman.

[Sean Renaud]

In the cases, I provided vehicles were the weapon of choice. Anything can be a weapon of convenience:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/world/vehicles-as-weapons/index.html

https://www.counterextremism.com/vehicles-as-weapons-of-terror

The main takeaway from the use of cars as weapons is that they are already heavily regulated and licensed. They are driven by people who are known to the government and have been regulated and licensed by the government. Which kind of puts the screws to the idea of government regulation of vehicles or guns being any kind of effective safety barrier to psychotic or criminal behavior.

That's not the main takeaway for an intellectually consistent person. First cars are very rarely used as weapons, because they are not weapons. They are modes of transportation. Its really THAT simple.

 

[ll74]

That's not the main takeaway for an intellectually consistent person. First cars are very rarely used as weapons, because they are not weapons. They are modes of transportation. Its really THAT simple.

He's the same idiot who said nobody had weapons on January 6. ..."anything can be used as a weapon"

Head scratcher

 

[Rightguide]

That's not the main takeaway for an intellectually consistent person. First cars are very rarely used as weapons, because they are not weapons. They are modes of transportation. Its really THAT simple.

Stop it. Anything can become a weapon. Knives are tools that kill more Americans than rifles of any kind, is still a fact

 

[schism666]

You, your dunce President and his communists are not going to get rid of guns. It would be much easier to institutionalize or treat the mentally ill known as trans people.

you have a crap and man ass fetish . most trans people are far more sane than you

 

[schism666]

He's the same idiot who said nobody had weapons on January 6. ..."anything can be used as a weapon"

Head scratcher

Stop it. Anything can become a weapon. Knives are tools that kill more Americans than rifles of any kind, is still a fact

lololol

 

[Sean Renaud]

Stop it. Anything can become a weapon. Knives are tools that kill more Americans than rifles of any kind, is still a fact

I already stated you must not have read where I specified handguns because I'm actually knowledgable on the subject.

Okay by your logic the rights of a person to own and operate cars shall not be infringed and needing a license is a violation of the 2nd amendment. The 2nd states ARMS not guns, not firearms. This was a time when swords were still used in war.

So which is is RG? Does everybody have a RIGHT to own a car that shall not be INFRINGED or is there a distinction between a car and a gun or knife that I'm unaware of?

 

[Bdm20]

Darrell Brookes represents more of a tragedy in that he used a more ubiquitous weapon while killing the same number but injuring more people. Enough to get him six life sentences. Here is a list of terror attacks killing many people with vehicles:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...owds-shows-disturbing-deadly-trend/819485001/
So, shall we ban them all?

If the intent of the product (automobiles) was to kill people, then yes, they should be banned from ownership by the general public.

If you can’t understand that…

Bless your heart.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Nobody is going to be banning any firearm in common use and the AR platform is about as common as it gets with 10's of millions already in the hands of the consumer.

After you get that through your head maybe you'll figure out that maybe dealing with the criminals and the insane are the way to go.

The call is for banning the sales, not the gun itself, ignoramus.

 

[icanhelp1]

The call is for banning the sales, not the gun itself, ignoramus.

Banning sales usually includes banning possession.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Usually if you already had it you'd get grandfathered in actually. Might be an issue when you die and try to hand it off to your kid but still

 

[ll74]

Banning sales usually includes banning possession.

I think your definitions are a bit off.

You can continue to own what you have. You just can't buy another one.

That's banning sales not possession.

 

[icanhelp1]

Usually if you already had it you'd get grandfathered in actually. Might be an issue when you die and try to hand it off to your kid but still

Yes there is such a thing as grandfathered. If the feds and Biden or some other lefty loon in office gets their way a ban will not stop at sales. There's a reason for the left pushing for a federal register. If the Marxist movement takes all three branches of government they will pass legislation to confiscate all make believe assault weapons.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Banning sales usually includes banning possession.

Link?

 

[DeluxAuto]

I think your definitions are a bit off.

You can continue to own what you have. You just can't buy another one.

That's banning sales not possession.

Critical thinking is just a concept to most 2a fools.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yes there is such a thing as grandfathered. If the feds and Biden or some other lefty loon in office gets their way a ban will not stop at sales. There's a reason for the left pushing for a federal register. If the Marxist movement takes all three branches of government they will pass legislation to confiscate all make believe assault weapons.

Biden isn't a lefty. He's barely to the left of center which is part of why his approval ratings are as low as they are. There is no Marxist movement and shut the fuck up about that, the odds that the Left will get the needed 60+ majority needed and hold the presidency long enough for the conservatives on the court to die or quit is nil to none. The idea of them growing a pair and just packing the court is even lower.

 

[icanhelp1]

I think your definitions are a bit off.

You can continue to own what you have. You just can't buy another one.

That's banning sales not possession.

I know what it means. In MA you are not in compliance with MGL 140 [ 122 ] for sales of AR 15s after 1994. Ownership before 1994 is grandfathered, any 15s or other replicas after that date; *possession* or sales are prohibited. I know Heller vs Bruen, but congress critters can make laws.

 

[Chobham]

Second amendment is not absolute.

It pretty much is, any limitations have to be severely circumscribed.

Do you need to register with the government before you make public utterances? Do you need to register with the government before you can worship at the church of your choice? And while we're on religion, does the government have the power to create a list of 'approved' churches/religions? Do the various public news/views platforms have to register with the government before they can operate?

Yes, there are certain limitations that can be placed on the exercise of second amendment rights, but the government doesn't have unlimited power to infringe on that right just because they feel they should. The Bruen decision explicitly removed that reasoning from any governments attempt to infringe.

In order for the left to achieve their desired goal they're going to have to amend or strike the 2nd amendment, good luck with that.

 

[ll74]

I know what it means. In MA you are not in compliance with MGL 140 [ 122 ] for sales of AR 15s after 1994. Ownership before 1994 is grandfathered, any 15s or other replicas after that date; *possession* or sales are prohibited. I know Heller vs Bruen, but congress critters can make laws.

Yes, Congress can make laws. It's their job description basically.

 

[Chobham]

I know what it means. In MA you are not in compliance with MGL 140 [ 122 ] for sales of AR 15s after 1994. Ownership before 1994 is grandfathered, any 15s or other replicas after that date; *possession* or sales are prohibited. I know Heller vs Bruen, but congress critters can make laws.

Look to those laws to be falling soon.

 

[ll74]

When it comes to mental health issues, sometimes a delay can make the difference between someone committing a crime and someone making a better choice. Making the bad choices more difficult to attain can also help.

The bullshit with the right is always all or nothing. In the recent shooting, not having a Ar15 would've led to six people still being alive.

 

[Chobham]

When it comes to mental health issues, sometimes a delay can make the difference between someone committing a crime and someone making a better choice. Making the bad choices more difficult to attain can also help.

The bullshit with the right is always all or nothing. In the recent shooting, not having a Ar15 would've led to six people still being alive.

That is a statement that you cannot substantiate in any way.

 

[Sean Renaud]

criminals dont follow laws

Why do people believe this bullshit about criminals not following laws?

 

[ll74]

That is a statement that you cannot substantiate in any way.

Yes, I can. She entered through the door using her AR15. Without it,.the hand gun would taken substantially longer or even prevented her entry.

 

[Rotadom]

Look to those laws to be falling soon.

That is a statement that you cannot substantiate in any way.

https://i.giphy.com/media/eUrE2DuMKOE0g/giphy.webp

 

[goldenknights54]

When it comes to mental health issues, sometimes a delay can make the difference between someone committing a crime and someone making a better choice. Making the bad choices more difficult to attain can also help.

The bullshit with the right is always all or nothing. In the recent shooting, not having a Ar15 would've led to six people still being alive.

I travel a lot in my work and always carry as I am not going to allow a car jacker or other thug to hurt me. It is not an AR 15 but trust me the government will start there and then want my handgun. With police morale at an all time low and the constant badgering they get from the press and certain groups police departments are never going to be at full staffing levels ever again. I mean some folks in the "trans community" consider this person that killed three children and three wonderful adults a hero for their group. Don't you think that is sick? I do and so will carry and use my gun if I need to protect myself or others I love.