If ever I despair of my abilities as a writer…

[EmilyMiller]

Yeah, as well as having issues with self-worth I could also not get into sex for fun. It might have been my ridiculous stamina but I could go for so long it’d get boring, like a tedious aerobic workout.

You need some cum-quick medicine, hun.

So when I write now I tend to really play up the emotions and I think it makes sex writing better (I hope). Many of the big writers I rate build and build and build and it makes for terrific scenes and huge sprawling stories.

My more emotional stories (which still have a lot of explicitly described sex) tend to perform badly. Maybe I have that in the back of my mind when writing.

Ironically enough though much of HOT AND FUZZY (my in-progress HOT FUZZ pastiche) looks at the difference between sex and love and just sex.

I’ve found that to be a theme - especially in The Pornstar Experience.

Em

 

[EmilyMiller]

What's the difference between porn and erotica? Just wondering.

Erotica is pretentious. Porn is honest.

Or it's maturity. The younger me liked sex, sex, sex. The older me likes the intimacy, the emotions of sex with someone you're connected to.

Well I’m making that transition myself. But there doesn’t seem to be too much of an audience. Maybe I am making excuses for my bad writing.

Em

 

[Zootonius]

Yeah, as well as having issues with self-worth I could also not get into sex for fun. It might have been my ridiculous stamina but I could go for so long it’d get boring, like a tedious aerobic workout.

So when I write now I tend to really play up the emotions and I think it makes sex writing better (I hope). Many of the big writers I rate build and build and build and it makes for terrific scenes and huge sprawling stories.

Ironically enough though much of HOT AND FUZZY (my in-progress HOT FUZZ pastiche) looks at the difference between sex and love and just sex.

So, you know. There’s that.

Between @EmilyMiller, @Emilymcplugger, and @IsabellaEmily is there some correlation between the name 'Emily' and erotic story writing?

 

[tenyari]

My impression is that erotic stories, in general, are more popular among women compared to porn videos. Thus I believe there is a decent amount of female readers out there,

It was pretty much the presence of another woman in my family reading the porn she'd written aloud at every family gathering back in the 90s that made me realize I could write this stuff.

No one I know though, knows I do. I'm not about to sit there and read vaginas and penises at family birthday gatherings like -some people- I know in my life...

Her stuff was only circulated among feminist and lesbian fanzines back then. So far I've not found it online or I'd know who at least one other author 'round there here parts actually is.

The only difference between her writing and a lot of what I see on these sights is she never did 'MC', 'Incest', or the 'Jack Hero and his Harem of compliant women survive in a Prepper wet-dream world' (which is about 50% of erotica sites). But a lot of the other themes were in her stuff so she really could be any one of you.

 

[Zootonius]

Erotica is pretentious. Porn is honest.

Well I’m making that transition myself. But there doesn’t seem to be too much of an audience. Maybe I am making excuses for my bad writing.

Em

You? Bad writing? Please.

 

[Zootonius]

My more emotional stories (which still have a lot of explicitly described sex) tend to perform badly. Maybe I have that in the back of my mind when writing.

Em

Now I'm curious to know which of your stories you consider your 'more emotional stories?'

 

[EmilyMiller]

Now I'm curious to know which of your stories you consider your 'more emotional stories?'

Fragile

Waking Up

The Pornstar Experience

All rated below my average.

Em

 

[NoTalentHack]

Fragile

Waking Up

The Pornstar Experience

All rated below my average.

Em

Yeah, but none of them due to quality reasons. Fetish is, well, fetish-y. Erotic Couplings is about sex, and pretty much only about sex. It's the "did anyone order a pizza?" of Literotica: people want to go there, read, and orgasm. Fetish is (mostly) similar, with the expectation that there'll be, you know, a fetish involved.

You CAN go and do something outside of that, but it's going to get dinged. You wrote wonderful stories that didn't find an audience in the places you put them. Your writing is very good at what it tries to convey; it's just that sometimes the audience isn't where you think it is.

To give you an idea of what I mean, I have a few stories that I think should have done better than they did, but that I either put them int he wrong place or there was just no good place to put them.

Incompatible Needs pt. 1 and pt. 2 suffered partially because I did something I probably wasn't quite technically capable of yet, but also because there was no good place to put them. Loving Wives was the obvious place, because it's a husband trying to deal with his wife's attraction to and love for her college roommate, but it turns into them trying to navigate being a throuple, which is probably better in Group Sex. The LW people disliked it because it wasn't sexually conservative; the Group Sex people probably would've disliked it because of the drama.

Forever Bound suffered similarly because it was one of the earlier things I did (I cringe at some of the technical aspects), but also because it was a slightly over-the-top BDSM romance about a husband trying to come to grips with his wife's need for domination, after he thought they'd already worked through it when they were dating. You can do BDSM romances, and reluctant subs work pretty well, but reluctant doms are a harder sell, I think. And it wouldn't have fit in in Romance either, because they're almost as sexually conservative over there as Loving Wives.

Virility straight up belongs in Anal, and there's no other place I'd put it. But it's also, in addition to being a couple's first time with anal, about the husband's fear of getting a vasectomy; it also starts with a silly dream sequence. It did okay, even finally getting an H, but I'm sure those factors hurt it.

I also know that, even in LW, where I do well, my pieces are challenging for a lot of people there. Reconciliations that make people mad-- even if I feel that they're earned-- MMCs that aren't paragons of virtue, placing the blame for the MMC on their marriage's failure even before the affair that ended it, letting the wife off "too lightly," being blatantly anti-late-stage-capitalism in a story: these are probably the least offensive things I've done to the folks that read there.

C'est la vie. Don't take a lack of ratings as a lack of skill or talent. Your work is lovely; you do straight smut way better than I do, to the point where I'm looking at your stuff as a "how to" on doing longer sex scenes. You haven't found your audience yet, and it may be a process. But you will find one; hell, I'm following you.

 

[IsabellaEmily]

Between @EmilyMiller, @Emilymcplugger, and @IsabellaEmily is there some correlation between the name 'Emily' and erotic story writing?

Maybe it has to do with people having that name being of above average intelligence and sensuality.

Just kidding, I have no idea.

 

[Zootonius]

Maybe it has to do with people having that name being of above average intelligence and sensuality.

Just kidding, I have no idea.

From my limited sample of Emilys, above average intelligence and sensuality, may be valid.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

Yeah, but none of them due to quality reasons. Fetish is, well, fetish-y. Erotic Couplings is about sex, and pretty much only about sex. It's the "did anyone order a pizza?" of Literotica: people want to go there, read, and orgasm. Fetish is (mostly) similar, with the expectation that there'll be, you know, a fetish involved.

You CAN go and do something outside of that, but it's going to get dinged. You wrote wonderful stories that didn't find an audience in the places you put them. Your writing is very good at what it tries to convey; it's just that sometimes the audience isn't where you think it is.

To give you an idea of what I mean, I have a few stories that I think should have done better than they did, but that I either put them int he wrong place or there was just no good place to put them.

Incompatible Needs pt. 1 and pt. 2 suffered partially because I did something I probably wasn't quite technically capable of yet, but also because there was no good place to put them. Loving Wives was the obvious place, because it's a husband trying to deal with his wife's attraction to and love for her college roommate, but it turns into them trying to navigate being a throuple, which is probably better in Group Sex. The LW people disliked it because it wasn't sexually conservative; the Group Sex people probably would've disliked it because of the drama.

Forever Bound suffered similarly because it was one of the earlier things I did (I cringe at some of the technical aspects), but also because it was a slightly over-the-top BDSM romance about a husband trying to come to grips with his wife's need for domination, after he thought they'd already worked through it when they were dating. You can do BDSM romances, and reluctant subs work pretty well, but reluctant doms are a harder sell, I think. And it wouldn't have fit in in Romance either, because they're almost as sexually conservative over there as Loving Wives.

Virility straight up belongs in Anal, and there's no other place I'd put it. But it's also, in addition to being a couple's first time with anal, about the husband's fear of getting a vasectomy; it also starts with a silly dream sequence. It did okay, even finally getting an H, but I'm sure those factors hurt it.

I also know that, even in LW, where I do well, my pieces are challenging for a lot of people there. Reconciliations that make people mad-- even if I feel that they're earned-- MMCs that aren't paragons of virtue, placing the blame for the MMC on their marriage's failure even before the affair that ended it, letting the wife off "too lightly," being blatantly anti-late-stage-capitalism in a story: these are probably the least offensive things I've done to the folks that read there.

C'est la vie. Don't take a lack of ratings as a lack of skill or talent. Your work is lovely; you do straight smut way better than I do, to the point where I'm looking at your stuff as a "how to" on doing longer sex scenes. You haven't found your audience yet, and it may be a process. But you will find one; hell, I'm following you.

I’ll tell you this, as long as your tagline is decent we LOVE drama in Group. Drama is what makes the multiple players so damn interesting.

I usually post my dramatic stuff in group and the audience tend to enjoy it with my being largely over 4 and just under 4.5

Good luck.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

Maybe it has to do with people having that name being of above average intelligence and sensuality.

Just kidding, I have no idea.

My name isn’t really Emily.

It’s Atticus Grammaticus.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Yeah, but none of them due to quality reasons. Fetish is, well, fetish-y. Erotic Couplings is about sex, and pretty much only about sex. It's the "did anyone order a pizza?" of Literotica: people want to go there, read, and orgasm. Fetish is (mostly) similar, with the expectation that there'll be, you know, a fetish involved.

You CAN go and do something outside of that, but it's going to get dinged. You wrote wonderful stories that didn't find an audience in the places you put them. Your writing is very good at what it tries to convey; it's just that sometimes the audience isn't where you think it is.

To give you an idea of what I mean, I have a few stories that I think should have done better than they did, but that I either put them int he wrong place or there was just no good place to put them.

Incompatible Needs pt. 1 and pt. 2 suffered partially because I did something I probably wasn't quite technically capable of yet, but also because there was no good place to put them. Loving Wives was the obvious place, because it's a husband trying to deal with his wife's attraction to and love for her college roommate, but it turns into them trying to navigate being a throuple, which is probably better in Group Sex. The LW people disliked it because it wasn't sexually conservative; the Group Sex people probably would've disliked it because of the drama.

Forever Bound suffered similarly because it was one of the earlier things I did (I cringe at some of the technical aspects), but also because it was a slightly over-the-top BDSM romance about a husband trying to come to grips with his wife's need for domination, after he thought they'd already worked through it when they were dating. You can do BDSM romances, and reluctant subs work pretty well, but reluctant doms are a harder sell, I think. And it wouldn't have fit in in Romance either, because they're almost as sexually conservative over there as Loving Wives.

Virility straight up belongs in Anal, and there's no other place I'd put it. But it's also, in addition to being a couple's first time with anal, about the husband's fear of getting a vasectomy; it also starts with a silly dream sequence. It did okay, even finally getting an H, but I'm sure those factors hurt it.

I also know that, even in LW, where I do well, my pieces are challenging for a lot of people there. Reconciliations that make people mad-- even if I feel that they're earned-- MMCs that aren't paragons of virtue, placing the blame for the MMC on their marriage's failure even before the affair that ended it, letting the wife off "too lightly," being blatantly anti-late-stage-capitalism in a story: these are probably the least offensive things I've done to the folks that read there.

C'est la vie. Don't take a lack of ratings as a lack of skill or talent. Your work is lovely; you do straight smut way better than I do, to the point where I'm looking at your stuff as a "how to" on doing longer sex scenes. You haven't found your audience yet, and it may be a process. But you will find one; hell, I'm following you.

I really, really, really struggle to understand the categories. I know there is an article about them, but all I got from that was if you have ten words relating to incest in a 20k word story, it must go in I/T.

For the rest of it, I’m rather lost.

Em

 

[Zootonius]

My name isn’t really Emily.

It’s Atticus Grammaticus.

That's what all the Atticus say.

 

[NoTalentHack]

I’ll tell you this, as long as your tagline is decent we LOVE drama in Group. Drama is what makes the multiple players so damn interesting.

I usually post my dramatic stuff in group and the audience tend to enjoy it with my being largely over 4 and just under 4.5

Good luck.

I’ll keep that in mind for future content. But I’d note that Incompatible Needs, both parts, ended up in that range in LW as well. I kind of wish I could do an A/B and test it in both places.

 

[Zootonius]

I really, really, really struggle to understand the categories. I know there is an article about them, but all I got from that was if you have ten words relating to incest in a 20k word story, it must go in I/T.

For the rest of it, I’m rather lost.

Em

My two cents is, some things overrule others. I/C is one. If it's got a little bit, it goes. BDSM is the same. Now a BDSM, I/C story...

 

[EmilyMiller]

My two cents is, some things overrule others. I/C is one. If it's got a little bit, it goes. BDSM is the same. Now a BDSM, I/C story...

A lot of my stuff is kinda romantic, just with ball gags.

Em

 

[Zootonius]

A lot of my stuff is kinda romantic, just with ball gags.

Em

Just realized, I can't even spell I/T correctly.

 

[NoTalentHack]

A lot of my stuff is kinda romantic, just with ball gags.

Em

That can be a harder sell, honestly. The factions in BDSM aren't quite as well-segmented or vituperative as in LW, but they still exist. It's hard to thread the needle there, from what I've seen.

 

[EmilyMiller]

That can be a harder sell, honestly. The factions in BDSM aren't quite as well-segmented or vituperative as in LW, but they still exist. It's hard to thread the needle there, from what I've seen.

I know. Although I cut myself off from romance for years (because of reasons), I’m a romantic at heart. The BDSM I love thrills and hurts me, but is also loving and caring. I know that’s a bit odd.

I like to be used and abused and then cuddled. I don’t like the thought of noncon BDSM or group. Don’t like being an understatement.

Em

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

…I can console myself by thinking that I had absolutely nothing to do with the script for season 3 of Outer Banks. People got paid to write this shit, it beggars belief.

Now it was never Breaking Bad, more of a pandemic escape, but at least seasons 1 and 2 were semi-coherent. Season 3 was probably the worst season of a show I have ever been unfortunate enough to watch.

So why watch it? Well mostly Madelyn and Madison in short shorts. Sadly none of the boys are my type. But even that got a bit old. I was reduced to wondering why, when when camera angle changed by 90 degrees twice in rapid succession, Madelyn’s ass was still pointing straight at it. I mean it’s a nice ass, but please.

And this gets a fourth season while 1899 is cancelled? WTF Netflix?

Em

What! 1899 CXCLD!?

It was just getting good! Deep Space?

 

[NoTalentHack]

I know. Although I cut myself off from romance for years (because of reasons), I’m a romantic at heart. The BDSM I love thrills and hurts me, but is also loving and caring. I know that’s a bit odd.

I like to be used and abused and then cuddled. I don’t like the thought one noncon BDSM or group. Don’t like being an understatement.

Em

Yeah, I write that type of stuff, too. The MMCs in my stories tend to be very dominant, even if it's only gently dominant, but there's a lot of aftercare and even behaviors that are seen as "beta cuck gay lol" by certain denizens of this fine site. It is what it is. I grew up in rural Texas, so my only source of "porn" was the old bodice-ripper novels, the ones that were both very focused on men pleasing women but also on those men being very dominant as they did so. Wonder if there's a connection there?

 

[djrip]

Yeah, I write that type of stuff, too. The MMCs in my stories tend to be very dominant, even if it's only gently dominant, but there's a lot of aftercare and even behaviors that are seen as "beta cuck gay lol" by certain denizens of this fine site. It is what it is. I grew up in rural Texas, so my only source of "porn" was the old bodice-ripper novels, the ones that were both very focused on men pleasing women but also on those men being very dominant as they did so. Wonder if there's a connection there?

Oh, the wall of Fabio-ish novels in the back of my grandma's house that I used to browse on the DL, yes I remember it well.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Yeah, I write that type of stuff, too. The MMCs in my stories tend to be very dominant, even if it's only gently dominant, but there's a lot of aftercare and even behaviors that are seen as "beta cuck gay lol" by certain denizens of this fine site. It is what it is. I grew up in rural Texas, so my only source of "porn" was the old bodice-ripper novels, the ones that were both very focused on men pleasing women but also on those men being very dominant as they did so. Wonder if there's a connection there?

BTW in smut, I once said here I aspired to be the Steinbeck of Smut. Still do .

Em

 

[NoTalentHack]

Oh, the wall of Fabio-ish novels in the back of my grandma's house that I used to browse on the DL, yes I remember it well.

"Purple helmeted warrior? WTF?" - a young NTH trying to decipher the sacred texts