If ever I despair of my abilities as a writer…

[EmilyMiller]

It’s because female-centric porn is rare.

Define female-centric porn.

Not a challenge. Just wondering.

Em

 

[onehitwanda]

Badly simulated Netflix sex is popular for women because it fills a gap…no, not like that! Oh no! That sounds terrible!

I always laugh when I'm taking the London underground and the PA system repeats "Mind the gap" over and over again.

Thanks. I do. All the time. God, I love the fact that it's going to be summer soon...

 

[cuppatea]

I always laugh when I'm taking the London underground and the PA system repeats "Mind the gap" over and over again.

Thanks. I do. All the time. God, I love the fact that it's going to be summer soon...

“Mind the gap” always makes me wryly smile, as does the mythical sign at the edge of platforms about being sucked off …

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Porn makers aren't discriminating when it comes to female porn, they simply follow the demand of the market. Truth is, a huge majority of porn consumers are male, so that is why most of the porn is male-centric.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Not entirely sure that was funny, hun.

Em

LOL. Oh, it was, and so was Hyun, hyunny.

I love some of the k-dramas. South Korea really knows how to do this stuff. Netflix could learn a few lessons from them.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Z

LOL. Oh, it was, and so was Hyun, hyunny.

I love some of the k-dramas. South Korea really knows how to do this stuff. Netflix could learn a few lessons from them.

Netflix has been bankrolling k drama since (I think) something like 2015. There is a reason so many of them are on Netflix.

Em

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Define female-centric porn.

Not a challenge. Just wondering.

Em

Porn made for female audience. It would focus on female fantasies and things women find hot. As I said, female audience isn't big enough so I doubt that the amount of porn made for female audiences is anywhere above 5% (wild guess). I wonder if women really find porn so much less appealing, or is it the social stigma? I mean a guy admitting to watching porn is quite normal. Male teenager or young adult saying he didn't watch porn is considered a liar or mentally ill
Women on the other hand can hardly admit doing it. One more example of men shaping social rules to favor them. One among many I suppose.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Porn made for female audience. It would focus on female fantasies and things women find hot. As I said, female audience isn't big enough so I doubt that the amount of porn made for female audiences is anywhere above 5% (wild guess). I wonder if women really find porn so much less appealing, or is it the social stigma? I mean a guy admitting to watching porn is quite normal. Male teenager or young adult saying he didn't watch porn is considered a liar or mentally ill
Women on the other hand can hardly admit doing it. One more example of men shaping social rules to favor them. One among many I suppose.

I’ve never sought out women-centric porn. I don’t know if being bi is a reason.

What about what I write? 90% of it has a female narrator and 100% has an active FMC with agency (maybe too much agency, my FMCs can devolve into Mary Sueism rather rapidly).

Guys seem to like it. Is it guy- or girl-centric?

Is me tying, teasing, clamping and pegging a guy girl-centric or guy-centric with me appropriating the male role?

Is my lesbian porn girl- or guy-centric?

It feels complicated.

Em

 

[onehitwanda]

Women on the other hand can hardly admit doing it.

It depends on the audience and, to some extent, luck.

I've had to end friendships with guys before because I made the unforced error of admitting that I sometimes watch porn and they took that as an invitation to attempt to get me into bed with them.

This is not intended as a general slating of guys - two doesn't make a trend or even a statistically relevant sample. But it was enough to prevent me from telling anyone else anywhere that wasn't nearly anonymous. I don't need the potential for drama.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

I’ve never sought out women-centric porn. I don’t know if being bi is a reason.

What about what I write? 90% of it has a female narrator and 100% has an active FMC with agency (maybe too much agency, my FMCs can devolve into Mary Sueism rather rapidly).

Guys seem to like it. Is it guy- or girl-centric?

Is me tying, teasing, clamping and pegging a guy girl-centric or guy-centric with me appropriating the male role?

Is my lesbian porn girl- or guy-centric?

It feels complicated.

Em

My impression is that erotic stories, in general, are more popular among women compared to porn videos. Thus I believe there is a decent amount of female readers out there, although still far from being anywhere near 50% IMO.
My other impression is that female authors tend to write porn in a different way compared to male authors. Men are usually more descriptive with details, sizes, usually their porn is more aggressive and extreme on average. Women focus more on emotions during sex rather than on physical release and mechanics. Feel free to disagree with me, as this is just an impression I formed by reading plenty of the stuff written by both sexes. Maybe I am out of my mind here, yet I feel this impression of mine was formed and confirmed over a considerable period of time.

 

[Zootonius]

Trying to define women-centric porn is about as impossible as defining male-centric porn. A look at female writers here will turn up a broad gamut of tastes.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

It depends on the audience and, to some extent, luck.

I've had to end friendships with guys before because I made the unforced error of admitting that I sometimes watch porn and they took that as an invitation to attempt to get me into bed with them.

This is not intended as a general slating of guys - two doesn't make a trend or even a statistically relevant sample. But it was enough to prevent me from telling anyone else anywhere that wasn't nearly anonymous. I don't need the potential for drama.

I believe you 100%. A woman saying she watches porn is probably automatically registered as saying you are a slut and will engage into sex with the first guy who crosses your path
It will take a long time for these preconceptions to change, although the process would actually need to start first

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Trying to define women-centric porn is about as impossible as defining male-centric porn. A look at female writers here will turn up a broad gamut of tastes.

I do believe there are noticeable differences though. If the porn market ever changes, I believe porn makers will thoroughly research this topic and hand us the answer.

 

[onehitwanda]

hands

both hands?

sorry

 

[Zootonius]

both hands?

sorry

Are you channeling the grammar police?

 

[AwkwardlySet]

both hands?

sorry

If it's both hands, do they need to be small?

 

[Emilymcplugger]

both hands?

sorry

Or just a fist.

Eurgh! I feel so dirty now.

 

[gunhilltrain]

“Mind the gap” always makes me wryly smile, as does the mythical sign at the edge of platforms about being sucked off …

New York buses have an automated "Please move away from the doors" announcement, even if the bus is very crowded. I feel like yelling, "I don't take orders from robots!" There are also various other inane ones. "Hate has no place on our transit system or anyway else," repeats some lady with a "vocal fry" (formerly knows as a Valley Girl accent). The only hate I have is for the system itself.

Subway riders don't get "sucked off," as far as I know. They usually fall on the tracks or someone pushes them. They also get killed falling between the cars or "surfing" on the train roofs. (That's for the 15 and under male set.)

 

[gunhilltrain]

My impression is that erotic stories, in general, are more popular among women compared to porn videos. Thus I believe there is a decent amount of female readers out there, although still far from being anywhere near 50% IMO.
My other impression is that female authors tend to write porn in a different way compared to male authors. Men are usually more descriptive with details, sizes, usually their porn is more aggressive and extreme on average. Women focus more on emotions during sex rather than on physical release and mechanics. Feel free to disagree with me, as this is just an impression I formed by reading plenty of the stuff written by both sexes. Maybe I am out of my mind here, yet I feel this impression of mine was formed and confirmed over a considerable period of time.

Most video porn (I haven't done extensive research on this!) is quite repetitive; almost any story on Lit will be better.

I'm writing more dialogue recently and less actual sex. Maybe I'm not being manly enough?

 

[EmilyMiller]

My impression is that erotic stories, in general, are more popular among women compared to porn videos. Thus I believe there is a decent amount of female readers out there, although still far from being anywhere near 50% IMO.

I like porn! And I write porn, not erotica.

My other impression is that female authors tend to write porn in a different way compared to male authors. Men are usually more descriptive with details, sizes, usually their porn is more aggressive and extreme on average. Women focus more on emotions during sex rather than on physical release and mechanics. Feel free to disagree with me, as this is just an impression I formed by reading plenty of the stuff written by both sexes. Maybe I am out of my mind here, yet I feel this impression of mine was formed and confirmed over a considerable period of time.

I sort of get that. I find myself trying to do both emotions and mechanics. Is that because I’m bi? Or because I often initiate sex? Or because - as above - I watch porn?

Or - most likely - because for years I detached sex from relationships. Maybe that’s not such a female thing to do (on average)?

Em

 

[EmilyMiller]

Trying to define women-centric porn is about as impossible as defining male-centric porn. A look at female writers here will turn up a broad gamut of tastes.

What he said.

Em

 

[AwkwardlySet]

I like porn! And I write porn, not erotica.

I sort of get that. I find myself trying to do both emotions and mechanics. Is that because I’m bi? Or because I often initiate sex? Or because - as above - I watch porn?

Or - most likely - because for years I detached sex from relationships. Maybe that’s not such a female thing to do (on average)?

Em

I think we can safely agree that you are far from an average female

 

[EmilyMiller]

I think we can safely agree that you are far from an average female

I could take that at least three ways (just like in real life ). I’ll choose the complimentary one .

Em

 

[Zootonius]

I like porn! And I write porn, not erotica.

What's the difference between porn and erotica? Just wondering.

I sort of get that. I find myself trying to do both emotions and mechanics. Is that because I’m bi? Or because I often initiate sex? Or because - as above - I watch porn?

Or - most likely - because for years I detached sex from relationships. Maybe that’s not such a female thing to do (on average)?

Em

Or it's maturity. The younger me liked sex, sex, sex. The older me likes the intimacy, the emotions of sex with someone you're connected to.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

I like porn! And I write porn, not erotica.

I sort of get that. I find myself trying to do both emotions and mechanics. Is that because I’m bi? Or because I often initiate sex? Or because - as above - I watch porn?

Or - most likely - because for years I detached sex from relationships. Maybe that’s not such a female thing to do (on average)?

Em

Yeah, as well as having issues with self-worth I could also not get into sex for fun. It might have been my ridiculous stamina but I could go for so long it’d get boring, like a tedious aerobic workout.

So when I write now I tend to really play up the emotions and I think it makes sex writing better (I hope). Many of the big writers I rate build and build and build and it makes for terrific scenes and huge sprawling stories.

Ironically enough though much of HOT AND FUZZY (my in-progress HOT FUZZ pastiche) looks at the difference between sex and love and just sex.

So, you know. There’s that.