Is incest THAT popular?

[feather1892]

I can understand this, one of my I/T stories had a brief, heterosexual anal encounter, and the first comment was about getting rid of ‘that gay shit’

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I will admit, I was very surprised that so many of the comments in my first I/T story were "anal ruined this." Gee, I'm sorry that my story about a brother and sister fucking with implied breeding and dom/sub fetishes upset you by including sex in the wrong hole.

basic error of too many kinks in one story. it confuses the readers.

 

[Alitaptap]

Yup, methinks so See below. The authors here got some stiff competition now

https://twitter.com/x/status/1613099763020488704

(This is satire, guys, please don’t kill me )

 

[MrPixel]

Also why the category often loses its shit over anything remotely outside of boring hetero-normative P in V.

How do you think "they" will take a roman-à-clef I/T story with no explicit sex (as currently written) where Daddy gets daughter pregnant and destroys the family. I'm 2K words deep into it, wondering if I should bother finishing it.

 

[Euphony]

How do you think "they" will take a roman-à-clef I/T story with no explicit sex (as currently written) where Daddy gets daughter pregnant and destroys the family. I'm 2K words deep into it, wondering if I should bother finishing it.

You should finish it if only as being respectful to your muse and the time she's invested in you.
You know going you aren't writing to category cliches so there's little expectation than writing to you creative wants.
If there's something you want to try, do it. If you need the scores (you don't) then it's not working toward that goal.
If you feel you should write it, even if only as an exercise, you need to write it.

 

[youngmilfhunter]

I wanna start this off by saying that I fully understand that erotica is fiction and not hurting anyone in its depiction of fantasy. I have no beef with incest writers.

There's no allure to the premise of incest for me personally. Yet on occasion in my search for works that indulge in whatever highly specific kink I'm looking for at the time, I find myself biting the bullet and reading a story from the incest category. Not because I want to but because the tag I was looking under didn't have many results to choose from. I'm not into the incest thing, but I'll overlook it in stories where the fact that the characters are related isn't played up as the main attraction.

This got me thinking about how popular the incest genre is. I'm sure a lot of its popularity is genuine. But I can't help but speculate if it's popularity is in part because of other people like me who are willing to ignore the fact that it's incest and read it anyway. Is this a thing?

[Note: I'm not here to start fights I'm just curious. Scientifically intrigued if you will.]

Forbidden / Taboo things are more intriguing. It also has to do with our interests & fantasies. I’m attracted to older women, though I don’t wanna indulge in any incest activities my liking draws me towards it.

 

[NikkiSparrow]

One of my stories has

- MFC, bound to a bed (bondage)
- surrounded by cameras (cameras)
- being ganged by 3 men (multiple, non-con)
- while drugged (drugged)
- being watched via the livestream by her bisexual roommate (lesbian voyeur)
- who is being fucked by her much older uncle (incest, older man)
- who is telling her to pretend to be the MFC so he gets off on the fantasy (roleplay cnc)

...all at the same time.

But it didn't have anal, so I guess it was ok.

 

[DarkSollat]

I read somewhere in this thread that popularity of incest comes from the fact that it's one of very few remaining sexual taboos (and that's good). When interracial, homo and age gap relationships (among others) are viewed as normal, there is some kind of thrill those motives lost. And many erotica readers need a thrill, or the conflict.

Take the genre I was exploring lately as an example (I'm not trying to shift the attention here, I just think it's a very good example): two people fuck in the backseat of a moving car when the driver remains oblivious. For almost any couple, it's risky, but with kind of minor repercussions: the driver may dislike it, and some people from the outside see it resulting in arresting for public indecency. But when the couple is mother and son or brother and sister, and the driver is their husband or parents, they risk everything: two major crimes (incest is one in many country) and breaking up the family, and social ostracism.

 

[LowStrung5]

I have to admit, the Mom/son section of I/T is my favorite story section. Though I never have nor will have those tendencies toward my own, it is highly erotic to me. I don’t particularly care for the multi-chapter ones!

 

[EmilyMiller]

I've a hunch incest has a few interesting "factors" making it sort of a perpetual generator of sorts.

There's a TON of it written b/c a lot of neophyte authors or recreational let the category do the relationship establishing and location/penning them in. Totally fine. But is a thing.

It's also taboo but very hetero norms adjacent. IF you clear the main category bar, you're home free. Hence the homosexual or less romantical offerings challenging readers and getting downvoted more harshly for it.

With a mainstream adjacent position, a siren call to quick and dirty or less confident writers, a TON of it gets submitted. This, in turn, drives numbers making for more "look in" readers and "let me see what this is about" authors, which ups numbers again, rinse and repeat.

Writing from my [literally] sick bed, so I may make even less sense than normal…

I identify with the neophyte author tag (though I tend to say writer, author seems to be claiming way too much for my scribbles).

I wrote my first few stories (and the first things I had written since college) with an Incest theme. There were some specific personal reasons for this (which I have covered elsewhere), but it was also because I wanted attention (that bit hasn’t changed ) and naively thought Incest would have shock value (how it can actually be shocking with the hundreds of stories in that category is a bit beyond me). In retrospect, it did also make some of the character motivations simpler as well.

Now I’m a little bit more confident as a writer, I went back and removed the (fabricated) Incest elements entirely. Given that there is an autobiographical element to most of what I write, I was struck how Incest had let me paper over my own, perhaps troubling, feelings and thoughts. I didn’t fully cover my real motivations in the rewritten text, lest the stories become more psychoanalysis than porn, but I did notice that it was harder work thinking about why the characters (me included) did what they did. So Incest being a newbie author crutch / simplifying factor seems an astute observation when I think about my own work.

Thanks for opening my eyes to this .

Em

 

[Euphony]

Writing from my [literally] sick bed, so I may make even less sense than normal…

We prefer you confine the sickness to where it belongs, the fiction, and not on your person.

I wrote my first few stories (and the first things I had written since college) with an Incest theme. There were some specific personal reasons for this (which I have covered elsewhere), but it was also because I wanted attention (that bit hasn’t changed ) and naively thought Incest would have shock value (how it can actually be shocking with the hundreds of stories in that category is a bit beyond me).

Working from outside world rules, it's shocking. But once you get used to Lit island, it's just another culture like anywhere else. Some "hard" is basically one step up from cotton soft and some soft simply doesn't work for the rules here.

Shock is still available. I'd argue it takes writing directly against the "wants" current or being an utterly ridiculously talented author who shades all the side grey areas inherent to the category.

it did also make some of the character motivations simpler as well.

Almost guaranteed regular interactions. Reader assumption some base things in common/get along well enough. Built in Romeo/Juliette. It certainly has cruse control elements if you want to use them.

Now I’m a little bit more confident as a writer, I went back and removed the (fabricated) Incest elements entirely. Given that there is an autobiographical element to most of what I write, I was struck how Incest had let me paper over my own, perhaps troubling, feelings and thoughts.

Unsurprising. If you do much reading on psychological fantasy analysis, you'll see some fascinating connections,rejections,self-delussion and general disconnect in people's thoughts to their motivations and reasons for those fantasies. I'm rather soft so I do the more of the pop science, more mainstream books. I've had friends who worked in the space and even their censored for friends stuff gets unnerving so I imagine research papers are a magnitude worse.

That and most of Lit struggles to reach the basics of motivations (psychology) so even a little knowledge implementation goes a long way.

I didn’t fully cover my real motivations in the rewritten text, lest the stories become more psychoanalysis than porn, but I did notice that it was harder work thinking about why the characters (me included) did what they did.

When you find yourself needing the complexity of those thorny motivations to keep you writing but it also forces you to look inward when maybe you'd currently rather not, that's an interesting day.

So Incest being a newbie author crutch / simplifying factor seems an astute observation when I think about my own work.

"She's hot, why not?" gets comical on here but it can serve a purpose even to those working towards more.

Use it as training wheels and focus your writer attentions and practice elsewhere. In a "writing my way better" phase it has a place. Just take them off once you get your creative momentum up to speed to where you don't instantly fall over.

Thanks for opening my eyes to this .

Em

Not to seem modest, but I'm more of the opinion it's writers who do the work, the figuring out, not me.

Writing can be incredibly illuminating and therapeutic and that's it's role in our lives for many of us (myself included.) Somewhere writing you stumbled on your own understanding which you confirmed/solidified by mirroring some w/me.

Just keep writing. It doesn't have to go anywhere (sometimes it can't) but it almost always ends up with a purpose.

 

[TadOverdon]

basic error of too many kinks in one story. it confuses the readers.

Some of them can keep up.

I've never had complaints about what the characters do with each other, but granted my imagination is pretty vanilla. I've had a few complaints with the premise that a woman who would screw her own son might be similarly unconventional about relationships with other men outside of her marriage or her incestuous relationship. I/T gives a different twist to the "Madonna/Whore" cliche.

 

[EmilyMiller]

We prefer you confine the sickness to where it belongs, the fiction, and not on your person.

Me too .

Unsurprising. If you do much reading on psychological fantasy analysis, you'll see some fascinating connections,rejections,self-delussion and general disconnect in people's thoughts to their motivations and reasons for those fantasies. I'm rather soft so I do the more of the pop science, more mainstream books. I've had friends who worked in the space and even their censored for friends stuff gets unnerving so I imagine research papers are a magnitude worse.

I do kinda work stuff through by writing.

When you find yourself needing the complexity of those thorny motivations to keep you writing but it also forces you to look inward when maybe you'd currently rather not, that's an interesting day.

That’s a really interesting observation. I find I understand my younger self better having written about her. I think that helps me to understand me now as well.

Writing can be incredibly illuminating and therapeutic and that's it's role in our lives for many of us (myself included.) Somewhere writing you stumbled on your own understanding which you confirmed/solidified by mirroring some w/me.

I agree.

Just keep writing. It doesn't have to go anywhere (sometimes it can't) but it almost always ends up with a purpose.

I do find myself twisting porn stories into other things at present (not always, but sometimes).

Em

 

[SexualisPhantasia]

The story idea section is often flooded with bizarre incest-themed stories that are so off the wall, that the incest part is the least weird and/or disturbing aspect of the story.

This is very true

 

[12oclocktales]

It was one of the first things I noticed about the stories published here after I joined, just a few weeks after this thread was begun: want lots of views? Make it an incest story. Not necessarily high ratings (though there are plenty of high ratings, too), but definitely lots of views. It floored me, to the extent that, being somewhat of an alarmist these days, it would not surprise me to see incest perhaps be our next taboo to fall, first in the culture, then in the mainstream. "Well, for those who like that sort of thing I should think that is just about the sort of thing they would like." -- A. Lincoln, on spiritism

 

[Euphony]

Some of them can keep up.

I've never had complaints about what the characters do with each other, but granted my imagination is pretty vanilla. I've had a few complaints with the premise that a woman who would screw her own son might be similarly unconventional about relationships with other men outside of her marriage or her incestuous relationship. I/T gives a different twist to the "Madonna/Whore" cliche.

So much this.

It's like the, being generous, "men" are seemingly so beyond certainly their peers but any man walking the planet, Mom MUST fall helplessly in love/submit to him and only him b/c of this divinity.

Teen boys, as a general rule, are the most undatable of the lot. We deride older men who haven't escaped even only some of those teen patterns by painting them eternal teenagers.

Pairing motivations are infinitely complex but boy do readers demand a pretty rote script. To say nothing of pushing past a serious boundary helping milder societal transgressions fall by the wayside.

Society has little trouble believing in shitty bady daddies but a mentally unstable or broken mom? Inconceivable!

 

[PastMaster]

i find incest relatively boring.

 

[nice90sguy]

i find incest relatively boring.

As opposed to necrophilia which is, of course, dead boring.

 

[TheRedChamber]

As opposed to necrophilia which is, of course, dead boring.

And as opposed to the anal category which is painfully boring.

 

[Candy_Kane54]

I just published my first I/T story with the following tags:

mother/daughter
sister/sister
anal sex
double penetration
threesome
lesbian sex
cunnilingus
strap-on
twins
voyeurism

I've got more 1-bombs on this one story than I got all last year. Apparently, I pushed some buttons ...

 

[tristianc]

I just published my first I/T story with the following tags:

mother/daughter
sister/sister
anal sex
double penetration
threesome
lesbian sex
cunnilingus
strap-on
twins
voyeurism

I've got more 1-bombs on this one story than I got all last year. Apparently, I pushed some buttons ...

I/T gets lots of eyes quickly. Judging by how many reviews I got my I/T story is my most read story. I got good and then bad reviews on it on day one, it’s hard knowing what this large audience wants. Judging by your tags, I’d like to read your story, sounds hot.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I just published my first I/T story with the following tags:

mother/daughter
sister/sister
anal sex
double penetration
threesome
lesbian sex
cunnilingus
strap-on
twins
voyeurism

I've got more 1-bombs on this one story than I got all last year. Apparently, I pushed some buttons ...

A few combinations there to upset the stalwarts, I'd say. You're hell bound now, beyond doubt. The church will never forgive you.

 

[jterry]

I have to admit, the Mom/son section of I/T is my favorite story section. Though I never have nor will have those tendencies toward my own, it is highly erotic to me. I don’t particularly care for the multi-chapter ones!

Same as me! I do find older woman/younger male in any family relation very arousing, although I have no interest whatsoever in it in real life. I agree aswell that multi-chapter stories mostly ruin the story with this subject, at least of what I've read here. And I've read most of the good ones.

 

[Stimtheone]

From my experience and a recent conversation, it is a far too common fantasy of people either for the taboo nature or some deep seated issues of readers that surface in such kinks, but there is a stalwart desire to keep incest as a fantasy. Even mentioning it outside such circles can make people get outright hostile, using that word as a focus to destroy the entire thing.

Obviously, nobody here is condoning it in real life. I have personally seen the many issues that arise from it. But people are touchy about it.

I think it's a more subtle aspect of the whole conformist nature of society that people do not want to hear something going against their own mindset and they want to cancel others who think differently, meanwhile having these fetishes in secret. Plenty of men with mommy issues that want to read it or the gender flipped variety, but as a conversation subject it is one to instantly shift the tone of the room when it is even mentioned.

 

[mantonrichards]

Incest, more specifically mother/son or aunt/nephew, are my erotic story subjects of choice. However, the fantasy is in a very abstract sense, as IRL the subject would actually be repugnant to me. It is weird how the brain works.

It's the same for another sub-genre that I like: sexual slavery with some elements of pain or discomfort. Again, seeing or knowing of it in the real world is horrific to me.